The little gazette reports..

[wiggy]

Knock Flavs, praise donkey Broughton the order of the day lately. Flahavon is well up to the standard of this division,however if any inroads are to be made next year then Broughton needs replacing. His control is comparible to sunday league stuff . Why does his face fit when he is no better than Graeme Jones. Connie, Dudders and one other next year but please not little gazette favourite Broughton!

[Matty the Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (wiggy @ April 13 2004,00:14)]Why does his face fit when he is no better than Graeme Jones.
Seriously. Never, Ever say that again. There is no way the two players are even comaprable.




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[The General]

Drewe set up 2 goals and his shot was blocked just before the 1st goal ...

Kev

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[Matty the Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (The General @ April 13 2004,00:39)]Drewe set up 2 goals and his shot was blocked just before the 1st goal ...

Kev

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I don't think that Jones done that much in his season.

[Shrimper Zoo]

I'd be inclined to suggest that Flahavan's command of his box and his dealing with dead ball situations are some way from 3rd Division standard, even if the rest of his game excels it. The likes of Northampton, Lincoln and Canvey would perhaps testify to that.

Found it interesting to note that Tilly went out of his way to give fullsome praise to Bristol Rovers' goalkeeper after our 1-1 draw there. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a summer bid went in for him. Quite right too. In my view, we need a new goalkeeper and full backs more than anything else in the squad for next season.

[Beefy]

Didn't think Flavs had his best game today but imo a new goalkeeper isn't our number 1 priority. Can we do better? Of course we can, but if truth be told the same can be said of every single one of our players. Thats why they are in the third division.

If we can get someone significantly better for next season then I say we should do it, but otherwise I'd be more than happy to see Flavs still here next season.

As for Drewe.... I don't think he's good enough for where we want to be next year. You can't question his workrate and his commitment but imo if we are serious about going up next year then I don't think we can play the guys we had up front today. I've got a lot of time for Bramble and Broughton but I thought we won today despite them rather than because of them and Connie & Dudfield are better options.

[moneypit23]

Quote[/b] (Beefy @ April 13 2004,02:01)]As for Drewe.... I don't think he's good enough for where we want to be next year. You can't question his workrate and his commitment but imo if we are serious about going up next year then I don't think we can play the guys we had up front today. I've got a lot of time for Bramble and Broughton but I thought we won today despite them rather than because of them and Connie & Dudfield are better options.
Sums it up perfectly for me. Don't forget Corbett either. He looked much better up front than on the wing.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (wiggy @ April 13 2004,00:14)]please not little gazette favourite Broughton!
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried- I was defending Drewe to Rob Craven before the match yesterday.

[BENFLEET BLUE!]

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Quote[/b] (wiggy @ April 13 2004,00:14)]please not little gazette favourite Broughton!
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried- I was defending Drewe to Rob Craven before the match yesterday.
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[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (BENFLEET BLUE! @ April 13 2004,10:18)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ April 13 2004,10:01)]
Quote[/b] (wiggy @ April 13 2004,00:14)]please not little gazette favourite Broughton!
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried- I was defending Drewe to Rob Craven before the match yesterday.
Why would you do that? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif . And why was'nt Craven doing Newsround? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
I'll report games as I see them. If a player gives 100% for 90 minutes then I think he deserves much more praise than a goalkeeper who had a mediocre game at best. Looking back I may have been a bit harsh on Flavs for the bobble, but other than that, any criticism I gave to him was fair in my opinion. If we want to go up, then I think we at least need someone to challenge him.

However, having said that, I do believe that he has improved incredibly since the end of last season, when I though that he should be the first name on Wignall's out list. I certainly don't want to see him leave Roots Hall in the summer, as he will be the best second-choice shotstopper in the division at the least.

As for Broughton, I don't think anyone can really criticise him for his role since the turn of the year. In that time he has scored seven goals and set up numerous others, despite missing his quota of chances. But given a straight choice between him and Bramble, I'm astounded that anyone would choose the latter.

IMHO Dudfield and Broughton offer the best partnership (that being the key word) for next season, with Constantine unfortunately, despite his goals, offering little else. If Connie keeps scoring, then he has to stay in, and one of the others has to miss out. Without his goals, then we would have been relegated this season, no question. But I doubt that he will reproduce next season. That is a personal opinion.

That said, if we have Dudfield, Broughton, Constantine and Corbett as back up next season then I believe we have enough ammunition to get into the play-offs at the very least. Keep the bulk of the rest of the squad and it would be looking very rosy indeed.

Rob

P.S. My mandate for TLG in terms of reporting is to report on a game as I see it. Hence I give ratings in a relative manner - Bentley's 10 yesterday was a reflection of his driving performance when others weren't fussed - had I been doing the 'official' report then it would not have been as high. Broughton was 7 and Flahavan 5 - there's not a great deal of difference there really.

P.P.S. Flahavan is well on the way to being TLG's Player-of-the-Season in terms of average rating gleaned. I hardly think that you can say that we are always slating him!!!

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,11:06)]I'll report games as I see them.
Surely, given the "Craven curtains" of hair in the early part of the season, that means that we should ignore all of your reports in 2003. *After all, you can't have seen much at all...!

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Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,11:06)]IMHO Dudfield and Broughton offer the best partnership (that being the key word) for next season, with Constantine unfortunately, despite his goals, offering little else. If Connie keeps scoring, then he has to stay in, and one of the others has to miss out
With the greatest of respect to my learned friend... erm, you're wrong. *We have been crying out, for years, for the mythical "20 goal-a-season" striker.

We have now found one.

What we should absolutely not do is leave him on the bench. *A space must be found for him in the side, somehow. *And that space, IMHO, is Broughton-shaped... *Drewe was utterly woeful on Saturday (albeit, alas, that I agree in your assessment that he was better than Bramble).

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[Hawkwell Blue]

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[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 13 2004,11:36)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,11:06)]IMHO Dudfield and Broughton offer the best partnership (that being the key word) for next season, with Constantine unfortunately, despite his goals, offering little else. If Connie keeps scoring, then he has to stay in, and one of the others has to miss out
With the greatest of respect to my learned friend... erm, you're wrong. *We have been crying out, for years, for the mythical "20 goal-a-season" striker.

We have now found one.

What we should absolutely not do is leave him on the bench. *A space must be found for him in the side, somehow. *And that space, IMHO, is Broughton-shaped...
Matt, you are missing my key word - partnership. As a pairing, I feel that we are most likely to score when Brpughton and Dudfield play togther up front, rather than Constantine, even taking into account all of his goals. If Constantine works with Broughton over the summer, then I can see that working, but with Constantine and Dudfield up front I don't that there is enough variety in the forward department.

I don't want to leave Constantine out of the starting eleven, and as I said, if he keeps on scoring, then there is no way that he shoudl be kept out. It's just I believe the other option (Dudfield) is the better one next season.

And I'll buy you a pint if Constantine bags 20 again next year!

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:52)]And I'll buy you a pint if Constantine bags 20 again next year!
MtS, looks like there's an escape clause Rob may be leaving open for later exploitation.

Hhhhhmmmmm.... where can it be?

Oh, found it.

20 in all comps... or just league, Rob?

P.S.

The way I see it... IMHO... Bramble would be the first striker on my list to release.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,11:52)]And I'll buy you a pint if Constantine bags 20 again next year!
Well, he won't if you've got anything to do with it...

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How about Connie wide-right, then - where he's been most of this year? Partnerships are all well and good - but you simply can't leave someone like Connie out of the side, IMHO.

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[Exiled Shrimper]

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Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:52)]And I'll buy you a pint if Constantine bags 20 again next year!
MtS, looks like there's an escape clause Rob may be leaving open for later exploitation.

Hhhhhmmmmm.... where can it be?

Oh, found it.

20 in all comps... or just league, Rob?
The word again denotes all competitions OS - Leon's only got 19 in the League thus far! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:03)][IMHO... Bramble would be the first striker on my list to release.
Agreed.

Matt

P.S. Happy for the mark to be 20 in the league. It's the only true reflection of how well a striker is doing; and it's the only measure of whether we're likely to be at the business end of the table come May 2005.

And, on that measure, it's worth remembering that Drewe's league tally is a risible, pathetic... 2.

[Exiled Shrimper]

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Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,11:52)]And I'll buy you a pint if Constantine bags 20 again next year!
Well, he won't if you've got anything to do with it...

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How about Connie wide-right, then - where he's been most of this year? *Partnerships are all well and good - but you simply can't leave someone like Connie out of the side, IMHO.

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I don't like Constantine wide right, even though he's netted quite a few from out there. He offers even less on the flank than he does down the middle. And besides, with players of the calibre of Gower and Pettefer (who, baring any new signings woudl start wide for me next season if I were gaffer) and Corbett and Kightly who can fill in for them, I don't think that there would be room there.

Don't get me wrong; I am grateful for everything Constantine has done for us this season, but unless he continues to find the back of the net, I don't think there's a place in the side, whereas if Drewe isn't scoring his all-round play gets him in there. Dudfield I'm yet to form an opinion on in that respect, but an initial instinct is that he will create bucket loads with his off-the-ball running and by taking defenders away.

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 13 2004,12:08)]P.S. Happy for the mark to be 20 in the league. *It's the only true reflection of how well a striker is doing; and it's the only measure of whether we're likely to be at the business end of the table come May 2005.

And, on that measure, it's worth remembering that Drewe's league tally is a risible, pathetic... 2.
I'm spoiling for a fight here today - but without Drewe we wouldn't have had such a wonderful day/weekend out in Cardiff. That's gotta count for something? And I think that now he has broken his Roots Hall duck we will see much more out of him (otherwise I'm gonna get burned on the stake!!!).

[Hawkwell Blue]

You cannot dismiss a 20 goal plus striker with "despite his goals" etc. Without him, and particularly his ability to score from 12 yards, we would be conference bound. Goals are quite important for a striker aren't they?

I admit he is an unlikely looking goalscorer but who gives a **** and perhaps if he wasn't stuck out on the wing he would have bagged a few more.

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 13 2004,13:08)]P.S. Happy for the mark to be 20 in the league. It's the only true reflection of how well a striker is doing; and it's the only measure of whether we're likely to be at the business end of the table come May 2005.
So you're telling me that if a striker scores bucket loads of goals that get us to another LDV final, that's not a measure of how well he does? Even if he clocks up 18 or 19 goals in the league?

And another final could help us at the business end of the league with more wonger!

Granted, 2 league goals and a bucket full to get us to the final isn't any good though.

way I see it, we need two strikers capable of getting 15 - 25 goals a season... then we're in biz!

[Shagster69]

I think Constantine and Dudfield work quite well together - they ripped Bostons defence to pieces!

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Hawkwell Blue @ April 13 2004,12:13)]You cannot dismiss a 20 goal plus striker with "despite his goals" etc. Without him, and particularly his ability to score from 12 yards, we would be conference bound. Goals are quite important for a striker aren't they?

I admit he is an unlikely looking goalscorer but who gives a **** *and perhaps if he wasn't stuck out on the wing he would have bagged a few more.
Which is exactly what I said - for this season. I cannot see him scoring as many next season, and without the goals, he brings absolutely zilch to the team. Then he is about as useful as Bramble, whose performance yesterday meant that we played with ten men for the entire game. As I have said, if he carries on scoring, I don't have a problem with him being selected ahead of Dudfield (when he returns). It's when the goals dry up that I'm worried about, and that's looking forward to next season. I really hope that they don't, because then we could be Division Two-bound. I'm just not as confident in his ability as many others are.

[Hawkwell Blue]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:16)]
Quote[/b] (Hawkwell Blue @ April 13 2004,12:13)]You cannot dismiss a 20 goal plus striker with "despite his goals" etc. Without him, and particularly his ability to score from 12 yards, we would be conference bound. Goals are quite important for a striker aren't they?

I admit he is an unlikely looking goalscorer but who gives a **** *and perhaps if he wasn't stuck out on the wing he would have bagged a few more.
I cannot see him scoring as many next season
Why not?

Can we therefore also assume that Warren, Bentley, Gower wont do it next season. On that basis do we get rid of our top scorer and sign an unproven striker who MAY do the business? Errrmmm.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:09)]If Drewe isn't scoring his all-round play gets him in there.
I presume you were at Huddersfield on Saturday. *If so, pray tell me what "all-round play" Drewe exhibited. *He was woeful, frankly - redolent of Graeme Jones in his "pomp"...

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Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:09)]Dudfield I'm yet to form an opinion on in that respect, but an initial instinct is that he will create bucket loads with his off-the-ball running and by taking defenders away.
Exactly. *Bearing in mind that we don't really have a decent crosser from the flanks in the entire squad bar Nicolau, why don't we play to our strengths?

We have buckets of pace, movement, and passing ability in the squad - including Connie, who worked tirelessly on Saturday yet who, all too often, found no-one working off him, because Drewe was off grazing elsewhere on the McAlpine turf. Why not create opportunities through movement and pace, rather than trying (and invariably failing) to cross to a large ineffectual lump?

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It has to be Dudders and Connie up front for me. *I don't know why we pretend that we need a "PBB" up front where all too often he offers nothing but sweat (admirable, but ultimately not match-winning) and which suggests that we should play a style (knocking it long) which in fact is not one that our squad is adept at - being mostly small, fast, and good with the ball at their feet?

Don't get me wrong. *I shall be eternally grateful to Drewe for getting us to Cardiff - his goal against the Scum at Roots Hall will be one of the most wonderful sepia-tinted moments of my SUFC supporting career.

But on too many occasions in the League when Drewe has been up front for us, he has not been the sort of player who has used his size and strength to carve open defences and lay opportunities on a plate for a partner in the way that (say) Ian Benjamin did for us. *Instead, Drewe has just looked like a large lumbering lump.

However, that's only my view - and I recognise that, having seen only a fraction of the number of games you've seen this season, my view may well be wrong or lop-sided. *If so, I look forward to seeing the positive critique of Mr. Broughton, and what he brings to SUFC...

Matt

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:15)]So you're telling me that if a striker scores bucket loads of goals that get us to another LDV final, that's not a measure of how well he does? Even if he clocks up 18 or 19 goals in the league?
Just my view, but I have always understood the phrase "20-a-season striker" to mean 20 goals in the league.

That, and only that, is the measure of whether you've got a guy up front who can fire you to promotion.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm eternally grateful to Drewe for getting us to Cardiff. But I can't see how having him up front is a recipe for being in the top 7, when he simply can't find the net in the League.

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[W4 Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:11)]I'm spoiling for a fight here today - but without Drewe we wouldn't have had such a wonderful day/weekend out in Cardiff. That's gotta count for something? And I think that now he has broken his Roots Hall duck we will see much more out of him (otherwise I'm gonna get burned on the stake!!!).
True. But equally, his c*ck-up when one-on-one with the Scarborough keeper saw us miss out on a home FA Cup tie with Chelsea!
I hope he continues to improve for Southend, but there's only so much you can do when your first touch goes further than a Flahavan goal kick.

[Exiled Shrimper]

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Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:16)]I cannot see him scoring as many next season
Why not?

Can we therefore also assume that Warren, Bentley, Gower wont do it next season. On that basis do we get rid of our top scorer and sign an unproven striker who MAY do the business? Errrmmm.
It's a personal opinion based on his style of play and his record before he joined Southend United of a mighty three goals in 35 games. I don't think that he will score as many as he has done this year - he might not get the huge slices of luck a la his second against Sc**thorpe and having the chance to take a penalty against Carlisle, his penalty taking technique which is comparable to Kevin Maher's (who everyone vilifies) might let him down.

His record before he joined Southend was poor. He looked good at the start of his career he and Steve Wignall signed him. He has done well. I want him to carry on doing well. But if next season he can't reproduce what he has done this year, then I feel for the guy because the very same people that have been crucifying Drewe all season will be on his back.

As for the others, Bentley aside thewy have all proved in the past that they can do it at this level - Constantine hasn't before. Gower was the key man in Barnet's side for two or three years and Warren could have won PotY at Colchester last season in Division Two. Only injury stopped him. There's not much more praise than that. I hope Constantine reproduces the form, but IMHO he won't.

Or am I not allowed to express an opnion?

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 13 2004,12:24)]I presume you were at Huddersfield on Saturday. *If so, pray tell me what "all-round play" Drewe exhibited. *He was woeful, frankly - redolent of Graeme Jones in his "pomp"...


Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:09)]Dudfield I'm yet to form an opinion on in that respect, but an initial instinct is that he will create bucket loads with his off-the-ball running and by taking defenders away.
Exactly. *Bearing in mind that we don't really have a decent crosser from the flanks in the entire squad bar Nicolau, why don't we play to our strengths?

We have buckets of pace, movement, and passing ability in the squad - including Connie, who worked tirelessly on Saturday yet who, all too often, found no-one working off him, because Drewe was off grazing elsewhere on the McAlpine turf. *Why not create opportunities through movement and pace, rather than trying (and invariably failing) to cross to a large ineffectual lump?

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It has to be Dudders and Connie up front for me. *I don't know why we pretend that we need a "PBB" up front where all too often he offers nothing but sweat (admirable, but ultimately not match-winning) and which suggests that we should play a style (knocking it long) which in fact is not one that our squad is adept at - being mostly small, fast, and good with the ball at their feet?

Don't get me wrong. *I shall be eternally grateful to Drewe for getting us to Cardiff - his goal against the Scum at Roots Hall will be one of the most wonderful sepia-tinted moments of my SUFC supporting career.

But on too many occasions in the League when Drewe has been up front for us, he has not been the sort of player who has used his size and strength to carve open defences and lay opportunities on a plate for a partner in the way that (say) Ian Benjamin did for us. *Instead, Drewe has just looked like a large lumbering lump.

However, that's only my view - and I recognise that, having seen only a fraction of the number of games you've seen this season, my view may well be wrong or lop-sided. *If so, I look forward to seeing the positive critique of Mr. Broughton, and what he brings to SUFC...

Matt
Well he managed to keep the March Player of the Month away from the action for 95% of the ninety minutes. Drewe went up there and was a bl**dy nuisance to Huddersfield, and that's why their boss Peter Jackson is reputed to have said that we were one of the best teams to have played at the McAlpine this year. It is a team effort.

That said, he didn't get any efforts away on goal. But by the same token Matt, if you are singling out one match, what did Constantine do against the Terriers? He was anonymnous for large chunks of the game and was pittiful out of position on the right (although why he had to go out there and Tes up front I'll never know).

I think we can do well against the lesser teams in Division Three with Connie and Dudders up front - your Bostons, Kidderminsters, Maclesfields. But when there's some effective defending required, you need your Professional Big Bloke there to cause havoc - to take people's attention away from Dudfield or Constantine. And there are very few in Division Three better than Broughton at that.

[Napster]

Napster in agreeing with Exiled shocker!

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[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:35)]Or am I not allowed to express an opnion?
Handbag away, Mr. C!

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In fact, your opinion is precisely the thing we want you to express... in many respects these are all sensible grounds for believing that Connie may be less successful next season than he has been this season. Carruthers was poor in his second season at the club, after a barn-storming first season (for instance).

However, since he has bagged a hatful of goals this season, it may be that we're simply the right club for him. Some strikers are brilliant in one place, but rubbish elsewhere - simply because they're happy at a particular club, they like the way their team-mates play, they know about the length of grass on a particular surface etc. etc.

What is unarguable, however, is that Connie has 19 in the league this season; Drewe has 2. What is also unarguable is that you need goals to go up.

At the moment - and especially given Drewe's recent performances (I've not seen a decent one since we played Col Ewe) - I'd have Connie & Dudders up front every day of the week, and twice at 3.00 p.m. on a Saturday...

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[Hooly]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:11)]And I think that now he has broken his Roots Hall duck we will see much more out of him (otherwise I'm gonna get burned on the stake!!!).
Much as I defended Drewe & accept his workrate is good, if I were you I'd get that asbestos suit dusted down. *The phrase barn door with banjo (or something like that) comes to mind.

I'm still gloating about my win off Skoda Man last year by offering Graeme Jones to score no more than 5!! *In fact I think I started at 8 & then took pity on him after about 10 games as that was an utterly ridiculous for Jones to score.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:41)]Well he managed to keep the March Player of the Month away from the action for 95% of the ninety minutes. Drewe went up there and was a bl**dy nuisance to Huddersfield

But by the same token Matt, if you are singling out one match, what did Constantine do against the Terriers? He was anonymnous for large chunks of the game and was pittiful out of position on the right.
Well, that's just an example of two people seeing a game in a different light... The power of personal opinion - or, in my case jaundice (I'll hold my hands up and say that there's too much about Drewe as a package I dislike) - is remarkable.

I thought that:

*Sodje had a bad day at the office, rather than being kept busy by Drewe.

* If Sodje looked nervous about one striker, it was Connie rather than Drewe - because Connie had pace to burn him, which Drewe doesn't.

*When Connie went wide right, he still linked up well with Jupp & Bentley.

*Connie got into dangerous areas with the ball up front, but all too often had no one with him.

But there you have it. As for your other assessment (Connie & Dudders vs. the weak teams, Drewe for when spoiling strong opposition is important)... I might be able to agree with that. Drewe was excellent in the air in defence on Saturday, I'll concede that. But that was (for me) the only thing which he brought to the party on Saturday.

Matt

[Andu]

I would have to go with Matt here. A striker is there to score goals and thats what Constantine has done.
At the moment he is the only one of our current strikers who has earned his start next year. Broughton while having a good work rate misses too many chances.
If I was Constantine I would be well peeved to be stuck out on the wing having to watch Bramble and Broughton fanny about up front missing chances.
Lets see how the Constantine / Dudfield pairing works out, you never know it may turn out really good.

[Hooly]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:35)]Warren could have won PotY at Colchester last season...
Oh dear! *Now we know this argument is getting silly. * http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Pikey (A12 division) of the Year is not much to boast about. *This year Dobbin is up for this prestigous award, he's the donkey who is resposible for simultaneously cutting & fetilising the pitch & also plays in goal occasionally under his alias of S Brown. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Hooly @ April 13 2004,13:04)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:35)]Warren could have won PotY at Colchester last season...
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Pikey (A12 division) of the Year is not much to boast about. *This year Dobbin is up for this prestigous award, he's the horse who is resposible for simultaneously cutting & fetilising the pitch & also plays in goal occasionally under his alias of S Brown. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Fair point. I have been talking b*llocks haven't I?

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[Shrimper Zoo]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,13:05)]I have been talking b*llocks haven't I?

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After all those years of telling you that, you finally agree.

As some reprobate shouting from a car on the A127 said yeterday "Craven Out!"

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[Hooly]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,13:05)]Fair point. I have been talking b*llocks haven't I?
As they say "takes one to know one"!! *Very few people talk more b*llocks than me, or indeed more quantity of b*llocks!! *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Hooly]

Obviously that last statement excludes our resident Arse!! *He takes b*llocks to a (so far) unrecognised level. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Shrimper Zoo]

Quote[/b] (Hooly @ April 13 2004,13:17)]Obviously that last statement excludes our resident Arse!! *He takes b*llocks to a (so far) unrecognised level. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
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[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:41)]
Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 13 2004,12:24)]I presume you were at Huddersfield on Saturday. *If so, pray tell me what "all-round play" Drewe exhibited. *He was woeful, frankly - redolent of Graeme Jones in his "pomp"...


Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 13 2004,12:09)]Dudfield I'm yet to form an opinion on in that respect, but an initial instinct is that he will create bucket loads with his off-the-ball running and by taking defenders away.
Exactly. *Bearing in mind that we don't really have a decent crosser from the flanks in the entire squad bar Nicolau, why don't we play to our strengths?

We have buckets of pace, movement, and passing ability in the squad - including Connie, who worked tirelessly on Saturday yet who, all too often, found no-one working off him, because Drewe was off grazing elsewhere on the McAlpine turf. *Why not create opportunities through movement and pace, rather than trying (and invariably failing) to cross to a large ineffectual lump?

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It has to be Dudders and Connie up front for me. *I don't know why we pretend that we need a "PBB" up front where all too often he offers nothing but sweat (admirable, but ultimately not match-winning) and which suggests that we should play a style (knocking it long) which in fact is not one that our squad is adept at - being mostly small, fast, and good with the ball at their feet?

Don't get me wrong. *I shall be eternally grateful to Drewe for getting us to Cardiff - his goal against the Scum at Roots Hall will be one of the most wonderful sepia-tinted moments of my SUFC supporting career.

But on too many occasions in the League when Drewe has been up front for us, he has not been the sort of player who has used his size and strength to carve open defences and lay opportunities on a plate for a partner in the way that (say) Ian Benjamin did for us. *Instead, Drewe has just looked like a large lumbering lump.

However, that's only my view - and I recognise that, having seen only a fraction of the number of games you've seen this season, my view may well be wrong or lop-sided. *If so, I look forward to seeing the positive critique of Mr. Broughton, and what he brings to SUFC...

Matt
Well he managed to keep the March Player of the Month away from the action for 95% of the ninety minutes. Drewe went up there and was a bl**dy nuisance to Huddersfield, and that's why their boss Peter Jackson is reputed to have said that we were one of the best teams to have played at the McAlpine this year. It is a team effort.

That said, he didn't get any efforts away on goal. But by the same token Matt, if you are singling out one match, what did Constantine do against the Terriers? He was anonymnous for large chunks of the game and was pittiful out of position on the right (although why he had to go out there and Tes up front I'll never know).

I think we can do well against the lesser teams in Division Three with Connie and Dudders up front - your Bostons, Kidderminsters, Maclesfields. But when there's some effective defending required, you need your Professional Big Bloke there to cause havoc - to take people's attention away from Dudfield or Constantine. And there are very few in Division Three better than Broughton at that.
ES,

Would you agree that we change our style of play far too much when Drewe is in the side? If the 1st half proved anything yesterday it was that if we ran at them they couldn't handle it and were resorted to kicking lumps out of us (Tes for example). We created far more in the 2nd half by playing the ball on the deck and running at them, indeed all 3 goals came from runs at thier defence.

I just think that we are a better side when we play the ball on the deck and in that situation Drewe comes a distant 4th behind Connie, dudders and Tes.

PS - FWIW Tes wasn't as bad as everyone made out yesterday, he just got no protection from the ref at all.

PPS (and I expect to get crucified for this). I don't think Conlon dived yesterday, however I also don't think that Conlon thought it was a penalty either. The ref gave it and Conlon wasn't going to disagree with him. Can't see too many of our forwards doing anything different if the roles were reversed http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[Hooly]

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ April 13 2004,13:29)]Would you agree that we change our style of play far too much when Drewe is in the side? .................I just think that we are a better side when we play the ball on the deck and in that situation Drewe comes a distant 4th behind Connie, dudders and Tes.
BB. *ES might not but I certainly do.

Our performance at Boston the other week without Drewe was top rate. *Yes they were carp but some of the passing & movement we had that night were top notch (for this level). *With Drewe in the team I feel that far too much we *just look to punt the ball forward in hope, without looking at options.

However, some people say that you can't get out of this divison playing football on the deck. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *But I'd like to see us try!

I have to totally disagree with ES. Im sorry but do you watch the match with your eyes closed?
I have also noticed that the whole team revolves around drewe. Who IMO is a right pilock who cant hold the ball every time one of his team members passes the ball to him he looses it. I mean it has come to the point where when he gets the i just dont get excited because i know he isnt going the do anything with it. Where as with constantine now everyone has a reason to be on the edge of their seats beacause most of the time he does something with it.
There has been too many occasions when leon has been wide open and no one has been bothered to pass the ball to him, instead they pass it to the donkey! I mean what do expect leon to do when he is being played out of his normal postion. At the end of the day leon has done what he has supposed to be do and that is to score goals 19 to be exact and im sure if hes played up front in the next couple of games he'll bag another one to make it 20 and even if he doesnt he has still got 23 goals in the bag! open your eyes people he is in second place for top goal scorers overall and third in the league. When was the last time we had a striker who could do that.
If all drewe can do is create gaols then maybe he should be a midfielder because he sure as hell stinks as a striker.

Think about leon has won the club at leat 19.25 points where would we be without them?



I know the conference!!
I heard it isnt very nice down there http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Ps craven what do you have against leon? we needed a striker we got one who actually scores goals! so what the problem.

Oh yeah how many points has drewe got us? he may create but if there is no one to turn them into gaols (leon) then we are focked.

Do you get my drift?

[Shrimper Zoo]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 13 2004,18:37)]Do you get my drift?
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[BENFLEET BLUE!]

Mmhhh, some goods points and some things i dont agree with. But mostly happy with the fact that you made more spelling mistakes than i do!http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[shrimpboy]

Quote[/b] (wiggy @ April 13 2004,00:14)]Knock Flavs, praise donkey Broughton the order of the day lately. Flahavon is well up to the standard of this division,however if any inroads are to be made next year then Broughton needs replacing. His control is comparible to sunday league stuff . Why does his face fit when he is no better than Graeme Jones. Connie, Dudders and one other next year but please not little gazette favourite Broughton!
I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it.

Although I think you're going a bit too far comparing Broughton to Jones, Drewe is a lot better. Although as we've been saying, our style of play changes with him and we just hoof it up to him, especially Darryl and Leon(Cort).

Oh and Billericay Blue, Tes was rubbish yesterday. Protection from the referee? Clarke was just having some good argy bargy, nothing illegal and its Tes' fault for not been able to stay on his feet for more than 3 seconds!

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (Hooly @ April 13 2004,13:39)]However, some people say that you can't get out of this divison playing football on the deck. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *But I'd like to see us try!
Blackpool are one particularly good proof that it can be done.

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ April 13 2004,13:29)]PS - FWIW Tes wasn't as bad as everyone made out yesterday, he just got no protection from the ref at all.
No way. Tes is one of the best players we have had at winning free kicks. None of the fouls were much more than a brush but because the other guy was huge, Tes went down under anything. Reminds me a bit of Heskey.

Not criticising this because it's not diving, it's just drawing a foul then going down under it.

[Javea Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 13 2004,01:33)]I'd be inclined to suggest that Flahavan's command of his box and his dealing with dead ball situations are some way from 3rd Division standard, even if the rest of his game excels it. *The likes of Northampton, Lincoln and Canvey would perhaps testify to that.
Agreed. Flahavan may be a decent shot-stopper but his positioning is often woefully short of the high standard he, and some others, expect him to attain. Much like Mel Capleton, who could save powerful shots all day but could never deal with crosses or corners ...

WS

[Javea Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 13 2004,20:23)]I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it.
I await with interest to take a look at YOUR website, young man ...

WS

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[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 13 2004,18:37)]I have to totally disagree with ES. Im sorry but do you watch the match with your eyes closed?
I have also noticed that the whole team revolves around drewe. Who IMO is a right pilock who cant hold the ball every time one of his team members passes the ball to him he looses it. I mean it has come to the point where when he gets the i just dont get excited because i know he isnt going the do anything with it. Where as with constantine now everyone has a reason to be on the edge of their seats beacause most of the time he does something with it.
There has been too many occasions when leon has been wide open and no one has been bothered to pass the ball to him, instead they pass it to the donkey! I mean what do expect leon to do when he is being played out of his normal postion. At the end of the day leon has done what he has supposed to be do and that is to score goals 19 to be exact and im sure if hes played up front in the next couple of games he'll bag another one to make it 20 and even if he doesnt he has still got 23 goals in the bag! open your eyes people he is in second place for top goal scorers overall and third in the league. When was the last time we had a striker who could do that. *
If all drewe can do is create gaols then maybe he should be a midfielder because he sure as hell stinks as a striker.

Think about leon has won the club at leat 19.25 points where would we be without them?



I know the conference!!
I heard it isnt very nice down there http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Ps craven what do you have against leon? we needed a striker we got one who actually scores goals! so what the problem.

Oh yeah how many points has drewe got us? he may create but if there is no one to turn them into gaols (leon) then we are focked.

Do you get my drift?
Oh yes, that famous quarter of a point that is going to save us from going down to the Conference! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Right, if you read through my posts I have not slated Leon. I have said that I think that he has done very well this season and without him we would probably be down. We have waited for a twenty-goal-a-season striker for ages, and now we do have one. That's good. But what I also think is good is that we have other strikers that could play in his place.

As I have maintained through this thread, looking forward to next season, I don't believe that Leon has the technique to continue bagging as many goals as he has this time around. And that is when Drewe and Dudfield, who I believe are a better partnership (even if individually they may not have scored as many goals as Leon this season), come into their own.

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Hooly @ April 13 2004,13:39)]
Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ April 13 2004,13:29)]Would you agree that we change our style of play far too much when Drewe is in the side? .................I just think that we are a better side when we play the ball on the deck and in that situation Drewe comes a distant 4th behind Connie, dudders and Tes.
BB. *ES might not but I certainly do.

Our performance at Boston the other week without Drewe was top rate. *Yes they were carp but some of the passing & movement we had that night were top notch (for this level). *With Drewe in the team I feel that far too much we *just look to punt the ball forward in hope, without looking at options.

However, some people say that you can't get out of this divison playing football on the deck. *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *But I'd like to see us try!
Actually, I do agree that we change our style a bit when Drewe is up there, and that we shouldn't just lump it up to him. But it's not his fault that the rest of the team are playing like that. He was still there second half when we passed it around more, and he was much more effective as well in the second 45 minutes. So if we play sweeping football with Drewe, he might actually score a few more goals.

He is a better player inside the box than outside of it. He will score goals off his a*se, rebounding off his shoulder, etc., when he causes a problem for defenders in the six-yard box. When he has more time to think about it - i.e. when he is given a ball to run onto and tuck past the keeper - he fails 99% of the time. That's the sort of finish that Constantine, Dudfield, Corbett and even Bramble are better at.

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 13 2004,20:23)]...I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it...
Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go. We're giving fans a chance to express their views on Southend - FM has had a go and I have to say that I've been impressed by what he's come up with. As yet we haven't received anything from you. I wonder why...

And if you email us personally with your problems, we can address your gripes - get your mate from Huddersfield to do likewise. We can only report the game as we see it - I would guess a Terriers fan was laughing through embarassment at just how fortunate his side were in the second half.

We are constantly trying to be constructive - suggesting ways that people like Bramble (a little more work effort) and Flahavan (communication), even Broughton can improve rather than the mindless cr&p that you see levelled against the likes of Emberson on here.

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
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Ratings
Flav *brilliant sign him up on ten year contract before he goes and signs for Brighton again
Jupp rubbish, properly the worse player ever seen at Rots Hall
Wilson *absolute rubbish *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Warren absoulte brilliant as he clapped fans at end accordnig to my mate who actually went
Cort brilliant but played absolutely rubbish
Gower brilliant but crossing rubbish and hes rubbish as he wont pass
Maher so rubbish was suspended. brilliant player
Bentley rubbish definitely worse player ever to play
Drewe rubbish http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Constantine brilliant tilly should sign him for 14 years oh no *tilly can't as hasn't job http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

subs
Emberson *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif was too fat to fit on bench. hes rubbish. worse player Ive ever seen*played absolute rubbish even tho didnt come on
Jenkins should be in team hes rubbish
Bramble absolute rubbish *never ran once whilst warming up didnt clap my mate at end either http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Richard Young absolute brilliant should have def started or come on as sub or not played
mark Rawle brilliant should ahve shot should be shot

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 14 2004,10:20)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
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Ratings
Flav *brilliant sign him up on ten year contract before he goes and signs for Brighton again
Jupp rubbish, properly the worse player ever seen at Rots Hall
Wilson *absolute rubbish *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Warren absoulte brilliant as he clapped fans at end accordnig to my mate who actually went
Cort brilliant but played absolutely rubbish
Gower brilliant but crossing rubbish and hes rubbish as he wont pass
Maher so rubbish was suspended. brilliant player
Bentley rubbish definitely worse player ever to play
Drewe rubbish http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Constantine brilliant tilly should sign him for 14 years oh no *tilly can't as hasn't job http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

subs
Emberson *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif was too fat to fit on bench. hes rubbish. worse player Ive ever seen*played absolute rubbish even tho didnt come on
Jenkins should be in team hes rubbish
Bramble absolute rubbish *never ran once whilst warming up didnt clap my mate at end either http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Richard Young absolute brilliant should have def started or come on as sub or not played
mark Rawle brilliant should ahve shot should be shot
Brilliant.

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[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:42)]When he has more time to think about it - i.e. when he is given a ball to run onto and tuck past the keeper - he fails 99% of the time.
Except for the one against Col U at home that took us to Cardiff.

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Personally I think we should be grateful we have a few strikers who can play to their different strengths.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 14 2004,10:20)]
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Flav brilliant sign him up on ten year contract before he goes and signs for Brighton again
Jupp rubbish, properly the worse player ever seen at Rots Hall
Wilson absolute rubbish http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

etc. etc.
Brilliant, and uncannily accurate as well...

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[Yorkshire Blue]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ April 14 2004,10:30)]Brilliant.

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LOL

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 14 2004,10:20)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
Huddersfield 1 Southend 0

Ratings
Flav *brilliant sign him up on ten year contract before he goes and signs for Brighton again
Jupp rubbish, properly the worse player ever seen at Rots Hall
Wilson *absolute rubbish *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Warren absoulte brilliant as he clapped fans at end accordnig to my mate who actually went
Cort brilliant but played absolutely rubbish
Gower brilliant but crossing rubbish and hes rubbish as he wont pass
Maher so rubbish was suspended. brilliant player
Bentley rubbish definitely worse player ever to play
Drewe rubbish http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Constantine brilliant tilly should sign him for 14 years oh no *tilly can't as hasn't job http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

subs
Emberson *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif was too fat to fit on bench. hes rubbish. worse player Ive ever seen*played absolute rubbish even tho didnt come on
Jenkins should be in team hes rubbish
Bramble absolute rubbish *never ran once whilst warming up didnt clap my mate at end either http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Richard Young absolute brilliant should have def started or come on as sub or not played
mark Rawle brilliant should ahve shot should be shot
Post of the year so far, by a long, long way.

Tears rolling down my face

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[shrimpboy]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 14 2004,10:20)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
Huddersfield 1 Southend 0

Ratings
Flav *brilliant sign him up on ten year contract before he goes and signs for Brighton again
Jupp rubbish, properly the worse player ever seen at Rots Hall
Wilson *absolute rubbish *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Warren absoulte brilliant as he clapped fans at end accordnig to my mate who actually went
Cort brilliant but played absolutely rubbish
Gower brilliant but crossing rubbish and hes rubbish as he wont pass
Maher so rubbish was suspended. brilliant player
Bentley rubbish definitely worse player ever to play
Drewe rubbish http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Constantine brilliant tilly should sign him for 14 years oh no *tilly can't as hasn't job http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

subs
Emberson *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif was too fat to fit on bench. hes rubbish. worse player Ive ever seen*played absolute rubbish even tho didnt come on
Jenkins should be in team hes rubbish
Bramble absolute rubbish *never ran once whilst warming up didnt clap my mate at end either http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Richard Young absolute brilliant should have def started or come on as sub or not played
mark Rawle brilliant should ahve shot should be shot
bit harsh http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[shrimpboy]

Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]
Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 13 2004,20:23)]...I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it...
Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
I'd love to. I like writing so I'd be pleased to do a match report or something.

[Wessex Blue]

Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 14 2004,14:41)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]
Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 13 2004,20:23)]...I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it...
Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
I'd love to. I like writing so I'd be pleased to do a match report or something.
You're RUBBISH at writing..! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[shrimpboy]

How do you know you sad muppet?http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Exiled Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 14 2004,14:41)]
Quote[/b] (Exiled Shrimper @ April 14 2004,09:46)]
Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ April 13 2004,20:23)]...I agree some of the reports on TLG have been awful lately. Some of their ratings are an absoloute joke. They absoloutely love Broughton for some reason and are always having a go at the ref. I showed their report on Saturday to a Huddersfield fan I know and they were ****ing themselves with laughter at it...
Come on then Shrimpboy, have a go.
I'd love to. I like writing so I'd be pleased to do a match report or something.
OK SB, after the next game that you go to, send us you thoughts to robertcraven173@hotmail.com and we'll put them up alongside those of FM.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Wessex, you're a cheeky boy... the bait was lowered, and the fishy did bite...

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Matt

[shrimpboy]

Okey dokey, I'm going to Northampton on Saturday so Bobs your Uncle!

[Wessex Blue]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 14 2004,14:56)]Wessex, you're a cheeky boy... the bait was lowered, and the fishy did bite...

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Matt
It's like taking candy from a baby my friend. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

PS Shrimpboy I know you're rubbish at writing because I've read countless "rubbish" posts made by your good self. Muppet http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[shrimpboy]

Doesnt mean I'm rubbish at writing it just means you dont agree with me. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Muppet:p