Steve Tilson

[Benfleet_Blue]

Despite the wonders what Tilly has done I dont feel he is ready just yet, I would like to see a new man in the summer. Anyone know of avaliable managers?

Anyone know what happened about the Cotterill situation? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Shrimpersarmy]

Give him the job!

[fbm]

He has done as well and probably better than any other person would have been expected to do.

The Tilly/Brush combo deserve a chance.

[Benfleet_Blue]

We dont want another situation like the newman situation, I would hate to see Tilly go http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Banksy]

The Tilly/Brush combination works ! Extend their contracts now !

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Benfleet_Blue @ April 16 2004,01:21)]Despite the wonders what Tilly has done I dont feel he is ready just yet, I would like to see a new man in the summer. Anyone know of avaliable managers?

Anyone know what happened about the Cotterill situation? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding! How you can feel he's not ready is quite beyond me. There willl be bad runs, I'm sure, but he has turned the team around... we play good football... he's brought in good players... we're scoring goals... he guided us to our first ever final.

A seasoned manager could be 'ready' and then do a terrible job (proof of that is also available).

What, pray tell, does he have to do to convince you? We need a bit of stability for once.

[BENFLEET BLUE!]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ April 16 2004,07:57)]
Quote[/b] (Benfleet_Blue @ April 16 2004,01:21)]Despite the wonders what Tilly has done I dont feel he is ready just yet, I would like to see a new man in the summer. Anyone know of avaliable managers?

Anyone know what happened about the Cotterill situation? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding! How you can feel he's not ready is quite beyond me. There willl be bad runs, I'm sure, but he has turned the team around... we play good football... he's brought in good players... we're scoring goals... he guided us to our first ever final.

A seasoned manager could be 'ready' and then do a terrible job (proof of that is also available).

What, pray tell, does he have to do to convince you? We need a bit of stability for once.
Totally agree! We're walking in a Tilly wonderland! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[* ORM *]

One thing Tilly and Brush seem to have instilled in the squad is a bit more confidence and self-belief in their own abilities.

There is also competion in virtually all positions on the pitch. 12 months ago you could virtually work out the 11 names each week.

Compare the midfield we had twelve months ago to the opportunities we have now, particularly if we can retain Pettefer and Jay Smith doesn't break down again.

We have Gower, Conny, Maher, Smith, Pettefer, Bentley each with solid claims for a place in the starting line up. We also have players, if retained, like Jenks, Clark and Hunt that can play though I doubt if anyone can put forward a solid claim for one of these to go ahead of the six named above.

Up front, in addition to the kids that seem to keep breaking their thumbs on the gameboys Dudfield, Bramble, Conny and Donkey.

In defence, Nicky (if retained), Wozza, Hunt, Cort, Jupp. With Jenks, Stuart and possibly Macca waiting in the wings. This is one area we do need to strengthen for next season. Another centre half would be nice and would get Cort looking over his shoulder.

Also on the shopping list for next year I'd have another winger to do the job Jenks/Clark have had so many opportunities to do but failed miserably.

I hope this is not the start of yet another false dawn but, the team is on the up, attendances are on the up, optimism is as high as it's been for many a year.

Each of the managers we have had over the last 10 years have had their equal share of supporters and detractors.
I think we can all stand accused over the last few years trying to pressurise the board about one managerial decision or another and possibly created some knee jerk reactions along the way.

I don't blame the board for waiting this time around but if Shrimperzone is not united I'd like to think an overwhelming majority would be heaviliy in favour of a Tilly/Brush 12 month contract NOW !

[Barry the dog]

Quote[/b] (Benfleet_Blue @ April 16 2004,00:21)]Despite the wonders what Tilly has done I dont feel he is ready just yet, I would like to see a new man in the summer. Anyone know of avaliable managers?

Anyone know what happened about the Cotterill situation? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Are you having a laugh? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Just look at their results and the change in the teams passion and belief, if we appointed a new man i would boycott the games next year.

Give him the job now.

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ April 16 2004,09:35)]One thing Tilly and Brush seem to have instilled in the squad is a bit more confidence and self-belief in their own abilities.

There is also competion in virtually all positions on the pitch. 12 months ago you could virtually work out the 11 names each week.

Compare the midfield we had twelve months ago to the opportunities we have now, particularly if we can retain Pettefer and Jay Smith doesn't break down again.

We have Gower, Conny, Maher, Smith, Pettefer, Bentley each with solid claims for a place in the starting line up. We also have players, if retained, like Jenks, Clark and Hunt that can play though I doubt if anyone can put forward a solid claim for one of these to go ahead of the six named above.

Up front, in addition to the kids that seem to keep breaking their thumbs on the gameboys Dudfield, Bramble, Conny and Donkey.

In defence, Nicky (if retained), Wozza, Hunt, Cort, Jupp. With Jenks, Stuart and possibly Macca waiting in the wings. This is one area we do need to strengthen for next season. Another centre half would be nice and would get Cort looking over his shoulder.

Also on the shopping list for next year I'd have another winger to do the job Jenks/Clark have had so many opportunities to do but failed miserably.

I hope this is not the start of yet another false dawn but, the team is on the up, attendances are on the up, optimism is as high as it's been for many a year.

Each of the managers we have had over the last 10 years have had their equal share of supporters and detractors.
I think we can all stand accused over the last few years trying to pressurise the board about one managerial decision or another and possibly created some knee jerk reactions along the way.

I don't blame the board for waiting this time around but if Shrimperzone is not united I'd like to think an overwhelming majority would be heaviliy in favour of a Tilly/Brush 12 month contract NOW !
And with SZ votes going to 3 leading contenders for POTY. I don't think that is unrelated to what Tilly / Brush have managed.

[Surrey Blue]

Quote[/b] (Benfleet_Blue @ April 16 2004,00:21)]Despite the wonders what Tilly has done I dont feel he is ready just yet, I would like to see a new man in the summer. Anyone know of avaliable managers?

Anyone know what happened about the Cotterill situation? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
I dont see what more he has to do, We look like a completely different side to the one that was gonna get us relegated.

We are playing with Confidence and beleif, the team is motivated, we reached our first national final in 98 years, poss top half finish, the atmosphere at the Hall is electric.

Theres only one man to thank and he should be given a 2 year contract

Step forward Steve Tilson

[Shrimper JK]

Cant believe, after all what Tilly has done for us this season, people even question if he should be given the job full time. At the start of the season, lets face it we were sh*te. Then Wignall left and we were average for a few games with Webb. Now Tillys come in with Brush and hes turned our whole season around were now midtable. And lets not forget the small matter of that final in cardiff we went to. Not only that but we are actually playing good football and he has turned us into battlers aswell, cant remember the last time we were 2-0 down then won 3-2 before monday. He has also brought in some good signins and loans. eg. Petts, Dudfield, Hunt (i think), Nicolau, Bentley. He has a good eye for a player too, hes supported the club his whole life. The list is endless! GIVE HIM THE JOB FULL TIME!!!!!! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Shrimper Zoo]

The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.

[Menacy_Moleman]

We need stability in management otherwise we can not progress the current players enjoy playing for tilson/brush and have show much musto in games he has been in control of therefore tilson should be given extention in contract, and see how it goes next season!!

[Barmy Army]

In a heartbeat I would give him the job, otherwise we will never know what could have been with him at the helm full time.

Come on Uncle Ron.

[Barmy Army]

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
I hope you're joking?

If Wignall was still in charge we could expect to be booking trips to places like Dagenham & Redbridge next season.

Conference football at the Hall would have been a certainty.

[South Benfleet Shrimper]

Tilly and Brush should be given a two-year contract.

Wignall should be given a job as Chief Scout - the team is still basically players he signed.....

[overseas shrimper]

IMO we don't need Wignall's scouting prowess. Yes, he brought in some good players, but the jury is till out on Broughton, Stuart, Odunis (and would be on Embo) etc... and as for the likes of Wilson... well...

Tilly / Brush (and their scouting networks) have also proven to be good judges to date.

[Prophet of Doom!]

Tilson is a bloody genius and should be given a decent long term contract alongside Brush.

No compromise Ron, Do it NOW!!

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
I'm not a big fan of personal attacks.























But there are times when exceptions are called for.

tw*t


Btw you're not Alvin Martin are you. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Prophet of Doom!]

Quote[/b] (CI-City Blue @ April 16 2004,10:58)]Tilly and Brush should be given a two-year contract.

Wignall should be given a job as Chief Scout - the team is still basically players he signed.....
Sorry mate, Disagree over Wignall!

Tilly has found better players since Wignall left i.e. Nicolau, Pettefer and Dudfield.

We do not want that to**er Wignall near this clyb thank you!

[BluePartridge]

We should get rid of him, he never waved at the South Stand Upper when we ere chanting his name! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Barry the dog]

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
You have got too be joking mate?

Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
For the first time since Barry Fry we have someone at the helm who has the club at heart and is capable of bringing some real sucess and i for one am quite excited about the future with Tilly.

[CS Cockles]

Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ April 16 2004,11:44)]
Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
You have got too be joking mate?

Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
For the first time since Barry Fry we have someone at the helm who has the club at heart and is capable of bringing some real sucess and i for one am quite excited about the future with Tilly.
OOh dear Brainless the Dog, I think that bloke has just got you hook line and sinker mate, can't believe you fell for it

[BluePartridge]

Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ April 16 2004,11:44)]
Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
You have got too be joking mate?

Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
For the first time since Barry Fry we have someone at the helm who has the club at heart and is capable of bringing some real sucess and i for one am quite excited about the future with Tilly.
Also on the plus side we have someone with some passion who isn't a big fat "thinks the club are going nowhere" pedophile! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[The General]

You've got a couple of catches there SZ/GS(whatever you call yourself) ...

Kev

http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

P.s. I dont think its out of order to question whether Tilly should get the job. In fact, its a very good question and one that needs to be discussed. A couple of months back i was ver sure that Tilly wouldn't get the job on a full-time basis, but now, a couple of months down the line, im 90% sure that he will be offered an extension. He's brought in Pettefer, Bentley, Dudfield and Nicky and not one of them has done badly yet. Hunt was brought in by Wignall (who also attracted Warren, Gower, Connie and Flahavan back to the squad) Had we been able to take pen's ... im pretty sure that he could have been our manager for a much longer spell. Who knows!

[Matt the Shrimp]

What experience will a supposedly more experienced manager bring to the club than an experience of failure?

How can Tilly & Brush be considered as anything other than perfect for the job? *They're both ex-players - Tilly turned down the possibility of top-flight football (with Coventry) on the basis that he had a desire to play for no one else but Southend; Brush had a decent, if less ostentatiously "blue-blooded" career with Southend as well.

Indeed, if you opened Tilly up, he'd be like a stick of rock - with the words "Southend United FC" permeating through his very core.

What more could we possibly want? *Tilly is:

*A man who adores this club, and won't wander off at the drop of a cheque-book.
*A man who has lifted the club from relegation despair to mid-table.
*A man who fired his players with such passion & self-belief that they've taken us to our first final in 98 years.
*A man who has blended his passion for the club with Brush's greater experience to form a winning team.
*As a management team, a team of which perhaps our most exciting signing in years - Dudfield - said "if they get the job, I'll sign on the line"
*As a management team, they've already got the likes of Cort & Flavs - who were definitely looking elsewhere last summer - saying "we want to stay"

They are respected by the dressing room, loved by the fans, have been highly successful on & off the pitch (we've broken even for the first time in a decade this year), and are committed & passionate about the club.

How, in any conceiveable sense, is Tilly & Brush anything other than the best management solution we've had at this club in at least the last decade?

I am pleased to see, it must be said, that over 90% of SZ appears to think the same way...

Matt

[Barry the dog]

Quote[/b] (BluePartridge @ April 16 2004,11:54)]
Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ April 16 2004,11:44)]
Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
You have got too be joking mate?

Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
For the first time since Barry Fry we have someone at the helm who has the club at heart and is capable of bringing some real sucess and i for one am quite excited about the future with Tilly.
Also on the plus side we have someone with some passion who isn't a big fat "thinks the club are going nowhere" pedophile! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Yes Fry was that but what i was saying is that he brought success to the club which knowbody has done since.

[Barry the dog]

Quote[/b] (CS Cockles @ April 16 2004,11:53)]
Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ April 16 2004,11:44)]
Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ April 16 2004,10:06)]The man I feel sorry for in all of this is Steve Wignall. *I still can't see what he done to deserve the bullet.
You have got too be joking mate?

Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
For the first time since Barry Fry we have someone at the helm who has the club at heart and is capable of bringing some real sucess and i for one am quite excited about the future with Tilly.
OOh dear Brainless the Dog, I think that bloke has just got you hook line and sinker mate, can't believe you fell for it
Oh look CS Cokatoo has crawled out from the woodwork again.

Why dont you just **** off and hang outside schools looking for your prey like you normally do on a weeknight.
Sick twisted pervert. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (The General @ April 16 2004,14:22)]You've got a couple of catches there SZ/GS(whatever you call yourself) ...

Kev

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P.s. I dont think its out of order to question whether Tilly should get the job. In fact, its a very good question and one that needs to be discussed. A couple of months back i was ver sure that Tilly wouldn't get the job on a full-time basis, but now, a couple of months down the line, im 90% sure that he will be offered an extension. He's brought in Pettefer, Bentley, Dudfield and Nicky and not one of them has done badly yet. Hunt was brought in by Wignall (who also attracted Warren, Gower, Connie and Flahavan back to the squad) Had we been able to take pen's ... im pretty sure that he could have been our manager for a much longer spell. Who knows!
Nobody said it was 'out of order' to question Tilly / Brush... just that the majority very strongly in favour of... and all based on a heap of evidence as to why.

[Surrey Shrimper]

I defy the board to appoint anyone over Tilly/Brush.

They'll be a f**king riot.

These two have been tru;y inspirational and, as stated by many, have brought back the confidence and belief that has been so sadly lacking in previous seasons.

Remember how we all felt in November/December in the bottom two? Never again!

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ April 16 2004,11:44)]Wignall was up there with the likes of Alvin Martin and Alan Little ie: f**king clueless with no passion.
Bit harsh on Alan Little, he wasn't clueless and his managerial record stands up quite well in comparison to anything we've had since except Tilly/Brush. The clueless bit about him was the wage bill.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ April 16 2004,17:19)]The clueless bit about him was the wage bill.
Which wasn't his fault anyway; that was Main's fault.

Little can hold his head high, IMHO. Not least for leading us to a 3-0 win at Birdbrain Road when we were in trouble in the League; but also 'cos he's an ex-Shrimper himself.

Comparing him with the Chipmunk or Whelan, or (to a lesser extent) Wiggers, is tantamount to blasphemy.

http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ghostface.gif

Matt

P.S. Nice to see the Zone back - where's it been all day?!

[petejan]

ITS JUST GOT TO BE YES YES YES YES YES YES

[Welsh_Shrimperz]

Iam with 'Matt the Shrimper' - what more Tilson have to do to get the Job. Iam aware about so-called in-experience manager such as Muppet Martin, Ronnie "******" Whelan or Newman, the difference out of these three that our away game under Tilson, is more enjoyable to watch rather than expecting the 0-0 or a 2-0 defeat.

My Dad & his mate is thinking about swapping their season ticket (their words not mine) at Chelsea to join me at Root-Hall next season as 4 of them has enjoyed the football that Southend has played under Tilson (e.g. the Scu*thorpe game). More success & more fans will come next season.

[Welsh_Shrimperz]

An need of a experienced .... 'My Ar*e' - Tilson have been through the last 5 months is much more than the experienced manager did in the last 5 years.

Tilson is managing Southend Utd for real, just like us managing Southend on Championship manager on PC or Total Football Manager on PS2. If Tilson did'nt make it as Pro player, he would spend at least 1 hour or more of his spare time trying to lead Southend to success on PC (who would'nt?) rather than doing it for real.

My example bit of an a**e innt http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[SUFC_Spike]

I bloody hope Ron gives Tilly and brush at least two years, preferably more!!!

The turn around in form, league position etc has been nothing short of exceptional.

SIGN THEM UP!!!

[coach ET]

i dont see how someone can question steve's achievements
during the last 5 months? there has been a marked improvement in performances and more important in our league
position: they play with a tremendous team spirit with players
stating that want play for this club so mr martin give him a longer contract and show more patience than the one you had
with previous managers.
only one thing worries me. if we dont have a good start next
season( that can happen especially over a long season and
with a fitness planning that priorities long term achievements:
ie.slow start top form in the crucial months of the season like
manutd) how we would react? will we get behind the manager or will we do what we have done with some managers?
i am now confident that steve will be a good manager for sufc
but i also know that we could go through a bad patch on the
way to better things: the key is the way how the supporters
will react to this.
in other words, you see who your real friends are when things
go bad!
i will also say that things look really well on the football side so
long may it continue and i am looking forward to the day we will play west ham utd in the same division again!

[Bigdel]

This has got to be the most worthless poll ever on this site,Tilson/Brush record must be the best we have had in years.
Two year plus contract to the both of them please RM

[McScriven]

Quote[/b] (Bigdel @ April 17 2004,09:07)]This has got to be the most worthless poll ever on this site,Tilson/Brush record must be the best we have had in years.
Two year plus contract to the both of them please RM
Although I probably think that Tilly and Brush should get the chance to be in charge next year there record isn't that impressive we've only managed two league wins in a row twice this season, it's very deceiptive.

Quote[/b] (McScriven @ April 19 2004,08:53)]
Quote[/b] (Bigdel @ April 17 2004,09:07)]This has got to be the most worthless poll ever on this site,Tilson/Brush record must be the best we have had in years.
Two year plus contract to the both of them please RM
Although I probably think that Tilly and Brush should get the chance to be in charge next year there record isn't that impressive we've only managed two league wins in a row twice this season, it's very deceiptive.
What's the problem? He's not lost many either.

Win at home, draw away and you are looking to go up.

[McScriven]

Yep I know but you need to win several games in a row to be a promotion winning side. When we struggle to put back to back wins together you don't have the luxary of being able to afford a couple of defeats that will surely come in a season. Doesn't really matter this season but next season we will need to go on a winning run of 5 or 6 games a couple of times in the season.

[The Artful Shrimper]

I would give Tilly the job. If it doesn't work out I'd have a two way clause whereby he could resume his youth connections should he/the board feel that he needs more time etc and Brushy would be in the wings anyway.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Possibly true, Scriv. *But let's put this in context. *When Tilly took us over, we were in the slough of despond, deeply in trouble at the foot of the table.

Now we're 13th - mid-table, and cruising. *In that time, we've had wins away at Boston (normally very tough at home) and Carlisle (where we NEVER win), and got to the Millennium Stadium.

Tilly's league record is, out of interest:

P24 W10 D7 L7 F30 A26 Pts 37

Extrapolate that over a whole season, and that becomes

P46 W20 D13 L13 F58 A50 Pts 73

...and that's a points haul which would be good enough for the play-offs.

In other words, Tilly took over a team that was in the bottom 3, and has produced the sort of results that would have been good enough to get us into the playoffs.

I think that that's bloody amazing. *Imagine what he & Brush could do with a level playing-field - in other words, being able to start the season with a squad whose confidence is high, and whose belief in themselves and the management team is strong.

That's why, it seems to me, that Tilly & Brush are the team we need to have in charge next season.

Matt

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 16 2004,13:26)]*A man who fired his players with such passion & self-belief that they've taken us to our first final in 98 years.
What a difference the word 'up' would have made.

Fair points though. I think the biggest success of his tenure would be securing Constantine for next season(/s). People seem indifferent to Conny but he keeps scoring and must be seen as interesting by teams in Div 2 at least. If Leon is happy enough to stay, it must say volumes for Tilson/Brush and the general atmosphere round the club.

Sign them up at the end of the season and let's have some stability for a change.

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 19 2004,12:01)]Tilly's league record is, out of interest:

P24 W10 D7 L7 F30 A26 Pts 37

Extrapolate that over a whole season, and that becomes

P46 W20 D13 L13 F58 A50 Pts 73

...and that's a points haul which would be good enough for the play-offs.
And don't forget that Roots Hall Curse over here managed to stunt our league form when I came back from Pompey over Christmas (not to mention MillStad!)

Honestly thought it was going to go pearshaped again v Darlo but that took my games watched record to W3 D4 L9. Toying with the idea of never watching live again to be honest!

[McScriven]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ April 19 2004,12:01)]Possibly true, Scriv. *But let's put this in context. *When Tilly took us over, we were in the slough of despond, deeply in trouble at the foot of the table.

Now we're 13th - mid-table, and cruising. *In that time, we've had wins away at Boston (normally very tough at home) and Carlisle (where we NEVER win), and got to the Millennium Stadium.
Which is why we should give them the chance to show us what they can do next year. What I'm saying is they will still need to improve from a couple of wins, followed by draws and the odd defeat if we want to be challenging at the right end of the table.