College or Work

[footymad13]

As there is such a wide rang of people age and in employment. I would like your advice,

I am having to look at my future (d'oh) anyways i hate school and im not sure about college.

I have been told that qualifications are going down hill and employers are starting to look more at experence and a good reference than a piece of paper. As some people have the qualifications but simply cannot do the job.

At the same time i do have ambition and am a office/desk person and would like to climb my way up to a half decent job.

any advice would be much appricated.

Cheers all.

FM.

[southend4ever]

go to college or do an apprenticeship in a hands on job e.g. plumbing or engineering because going straight into the work scene can be very hard to originally find a job and you need to ensure that there are chances of promotion.

So many people now are taking degrees and it is vital you study something that you enjoy if you want to succeed.

When employing someone this so called bit of paper can often be the difference of getting a job and not because it will differentiate two people and that is important.

If i was you i would study a course at college or do a range of subjects to keep your options open.

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[ASHRIMPER]

WELL LUKE:

i would reccomend you go to college and pick a mixture of subjects preferabley a level as these keeps your options open more. So when you leave you can either get a job with the a levels or go to uni.

Leaving school and getting a job straight away can be hard,as a lot of places want qualifications pst gcse and experiance. Also you will find it hard to move up the ranks as often for high positions you need a degree.

so luke go to college its a DOSS most of the time.

[carter_true_blue]

College is sh*t but it gets you places luke. then a better job if there are any out there.

[Sebastian Weetabix]

Go to collage and learn spelling and grammar. It can only be help you in the future. Otherwise, look at working on a building site, f**kwit.

[southend_utd_fan]

Do both.

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Sebastian Weetabix @ Nov. 08 2003,23:34)]Go to collage and learn spelling and grammar. It can only be help you in the future. Otherwise, look at working on a building site, f**kwit.
Excuse me !

[Groyne Strain]

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[Vange Shrimper]

I've been to college for a while now (!) and it's good for what u want to do in life. I'm hoping to work up London come next May/June and with the qualifications i've got at Sixth Form/College, it will help me a lot.

Do the best thing, go to college

[Andu]

get as many qualifications as you can, they will always help.

[TaffyBlue]

Personally I think you should do both. *Get a job with a good company. *Most companies now sign up to IIP which means they will encourage further training. *If it's office work you are after, then get an office job to gain the experience and do a Business Admin NVQ at the same time, either in night school or through your employer. *Best of both worlds.

[Durera]

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>Go to a &#39;sixth form&#39; college, but somewhere different to where you went to school, otherwise it just feels like your extending your school years...

Get a part time job to cover the costs, perhaps try and get a timetable with a free weekday to help this...

Then try and get sponsorship for a Uni course, as TaffyBlue hints... My missus recently went back to Uni to do a degree in a year and was paid £23000 to do so...

It&#39;s easy to get greedy and go for the money of a job, don&#39;t do it&#33;&#33; Whilst we can take the **** that your with your mom and pop, you&#39;re better off...</span>

[Smithy]

College is far more different from school. i&#39;d say go to college and build your education up to get a great job at the end of it

[southend4ever]

win the lottery and do neither or marry someone rich.

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (TaffyBlue @ Nov. 09 2003,10:54)]Personally I think you should do both. *Get a job with a good company. *Most companies now sign up to IIP which means they will encourage further training. *If it&#39;s office work you are after, then get an office job to gain the experience and do a Business Admin NVQ at the same time, either in night school or through your employer. *Best of both worlds.
I was looking at that, i wanted to get into Media but i tink it may be too hard.

But i am looking at work based training etc.

FM.

[SUFC_Spike]

I would definatly go to college/6th form, at least for a year and take a few A levels that you will enjoy&#33; Even if it turns out to be a waste of time or it turnes out not to be for you, its easy to drop out after the first year, or change all of your courses. Going into further education is probably your best bet, as it opens your options wider and you will be able to get a better job, or go onto uni if you want.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 09 2003,18:19)]I was looking at that, i wanted to get into Media but i tink it may be too hard.
don&#39;t go into proofreading, whatever you do.

Oh, and if you want to go into media, I recommend a degree. Otherwise, start off as a teaboy somewhere. Or a building site.

[Mad Cyril]

If you want to go to University you will need good A levels.

If you want to go to a good University you will need very good A levels.

Have a think about what you want to do. If there is a degree course that interests you find out the best places to study and what A levels/grades you will require.

Remember, the government is trying to get as many people to go to University as possible at the moment. Universities realise this and there are a lot universities (unfairly in my opinion) offering courses that offer little chance of decent employment after graduation.

If you do a decent course at a decent university you&#39;ll be fine. If you study mythology at Bournemouth poly then you are going to struggle.

[Durera]

<span style='font-family:COMIC SANS MS'>In all serious MF, You do need to sort out your English, especially if you want to get into the Media world... Perhaps going to college, retaking the GCSE would be a start? Or going straight to A Level if you think your up to it??</span>

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Durera @ Nov. 10 2003,10:37)]<span style='font-family:COMIC SANS MS'>In all serious MF, You do need to sort out your English, especially if you want to get into the Media world... Perhaps going to college, retaking the GCSE would be a start? Or going straight to A Level if you think your up to it??</span>
Or asking for a dictionary for christmas? And reading it cover to cover?

[footymad13]

Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,13:52)]Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...
Depends what you want to do.

If you want to be a heart transplant surgeon I suggest you go to University rather than start at the bottom and try to gain experience.

If you want to work in a sponge factory don&#39;t bother with a degree.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,14:05)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,13:52)]Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...
Depends what you want to do.

If you want to be a heart transplant surgeon I suggest you go to University rather than start at the bottom and try to gain experience.

If you want to work in a sponge factory don&#39;t bother with a degree.
Oh I don&#39;t know, some of these sponge factories can be demanding places.

[Vange Shrimper]

MF, why dont you start going to college, you might enjoy it. You can also apply for jobs while ur at college anyway and go for interviews. If you get the job, go for it. If you dont, you&#39;ve always got college to go back to.

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[Birri]

Luke, If you can go to college then do it as if you have any qualifications you dont start right @ the bottom. If you go straight to work you start lower than pond life and have to work twice as hard as everyone else.

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Nov. 10 2003,14:08)]
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Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,13:52)]Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...
Depends what you want to do.

If you want to be a heart transplant surgeon I suggest you go to University rather than start at the bottom and try to gain experience.

If you want to work in a sponge factory don&#39;t bother with a degree.
Oh I don&#39;t know, some of these sponge factories can be demanding places.
Tell me about it.

I took a while off of university and spent a whole year working at EGL.

I did the lot:

Made J cloth material
Packed J cloths
Packed scouring pads
Pressed sponge animals from sheets of foam
Loaded lorries
Unloaded lorries

My unnoficial title was the EGL stuntman because I used to leap from moving lorries into piles of sponge.

The day I left EGL and returned to University was the happiest day of my life.

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Vange Shrimper @ Nov. 10 2003,14:18)]MF, why dont you start going to college, you might enjoy it. You can also apply for jobs while ur at college anyway and go for interviews. If you get the job, go for it. If you dont, you&#39;ve always got college to go back to.

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Thanx all for the advice, like i say ideally id like to work in the city.

VS, Good advice im amazing.

the bank of england was offering school leavers 14k a year + training, unfortunatly i was one glade too short.

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,14:51)]the bank of england was offering school leavers 14k a year + training, unfortunatly i was one glade too short.
Was that glade in English or Chinese?

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,14:52)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,14:51)]the bank of england was offering school leavers 14k a year + training, unfortunatly i was one glade too short.
Was that glade in English or Chinese?
HaHa, Maths ..

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,14:43)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Nov. 10 2003,14:08)]
Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,14:05)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,13:52)]Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...
Depends what you want to do.

If you want to be a heart transplant surgeon I suggest you go to University rather than start at the bottom and try to gain experience.

If you want to work in a sponge factory don&#39;t bother with a degree.
Oh I don&#39;t know, some of these sponge factories can be demanding places.
Tell me about it.

I took a while off of university and spent a whole year working at EGL.

I did the lot:

Made J cloth material
Packed J cloths
Packed scouring pads
Pressed sponge animals from sheets of foam
Loaded lorries
Unloaded lorries

My unnoficial title was the EGL stuntman because I used to leap from moving lorries into piles of sponge.

The day I left EGL and returned to University was the happiest day of my life.
Blimey. I actually worked there for 3 months before my 2nd year at uni. Quelle coincidence.

The mad one with the glasses lost his finger on the cutting machine when I was there.

[Vange Shrimper]

Ur gonna have to sort out your spellings and grammar tho - if u get a job as an office junior when you have to write out e-mails or memo&#39;s you&#39;ll be stuffed. Do some extra English lessons to just improve those areas http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,14:51)]im amazing.
No, you&#39;re not.... http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Nov. 10 2003,14:59)]
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Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,14:05)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,13:52)]Problem is do you go str8 to work and hope to gain experence and a good reference or go to college and hope for the best ...
Depends what you want to do.

If you want to be a heart transplant surgeon I suggest you go to University rather than start at the bottom and try to gain experience.

If you want to work in a sponge factory don&#39;t bother with a degree.
Oh I don&#39;t know, some of these sponge factories can be demanding places.
Tell me about it.

I took a while off of university and spent a whole year working at EGL.

I did the lot:

Made J cloth material
Packed J cloths
Packed scouring pads
Pressed sponge animals from sheets of foam
Loaded lorries
Unloaded lorries

My unnoficial title was the EGL stuntman because I used to leap from moving lorries into piles of sponge.

The day I left EGL and returned to University was the happiest day of my life.
Blimey. I actually worked there for 3 months before my 2nd year at uni. Quelle coincidence.

The mad one with the glasses lost his finger on the cutting machine when I was there.
I was there between 1993 and 1994 when the operation was based in Rochford.

It was a living hell of morons (to be fair a lot of the staff were not morons but just losers in life) and people who smoked black cat/raffles/superkings.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Nov. 10 2003,15:08)]I was there between 1993 and 1994 when the operation was based in Rochford.

It was a living hell of morons (to be fair a lot of the staff were not morons but just losers in life) and people who smoked black cat/raffles/superkings.
I was there a year later in the place near the Railway. The staff included various mitfits, including one who looked like the bearded one from the Beach Boys, complete with Bermuda shorts. Only one of them actually wanted to do something with his life- he ended up taking them to court over some injury and went around the world...

[Matt the Shrimp]

Luke,

You have the rest of your life to work and gain experience.

Study now and get the qualifications whilst your youth (and lack of commitments - financial, personal etc.) permits you to do it most easily. Also enjoy the relative freedom that being young and having time affords you - it is a luxury which you will never have again in your life.

Whilst I can&#39;t speak of the City (in the sense of a financial job), I can tell you that if you want to get into the press - in the sense of TV or newspapers - a degree is pretty much mandatory.

Hope that helps,

Matt

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 10 2003,19:25)]Luke,

You have the rest of your life to work and gain experience.

Study now and get the qualifications whilst your youth (and lack of commitments - financial, personal etc.) permits you to do it most easily. *Also enjoy the relative freedom that being young and having time affords you - it is a luxury which you will never have again in your life.

Whilst I can&#39;t speak of the City (in the sense of a financial job), I can tell you that if you want to get into the press - in the sense of TV or newspapers - a degree is pretty much mandatory.

Hope that helps,

Matt
Yer im looking at SEEC,

Advanced business and Law.

[ASHRIMPER]

seec is a good college fm.

they do a range of courses there ranging from a levels to animal management&#33;

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,19:52)]Yer im looking at SEEC,

Advanced business and Law.
If you want a career in the law, no need to start studying it now.

Indeed, you don&#39;t even need to do it as a law degree - all it does is save you a year&#39;s time (and costs); on the down-side, it&#39;s extremely competitive to get into the good universities to study it.

Plenty of my mates have done law conversions after having studied something else (e.g. natural sciences, portuguese &amp; spanish), and in some respects it&#39;s seen as an extra string to your bow having studied something else at degree level.

Still, I did a law degree, and it&#39;s never done me any harm in the job marketplace...

Matt

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 10 2003,20:26)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 10 2003,19:52)]Yer im looking at SEEC,

Advanced business and Law.
If you want a career in the law, no need to start studying it now.

Indeed, you don&#39;t even need to do it as a law degree - all it does is save you a year&#39;s time (and costs); on the down-side, it&#39;s extremely competitive to get into the good universities to study it.

Plenty of my mates have done law conversions after having studied something else (e.g. natural sciences, portuguese &amp; spanish), and in some respects it&#39;s seen as an extra string to your bow having studied something else at degree level.

Still, I did a law degree, and it&#39;s never done me any harm in the job marketplace...

Matt
Ta, its more of a enjoyment to be honest Matt, i enjoy law and i may take a combined course.

[Kenny]

I did college for all of 2 months but hated it and dropped out but I was lucky enough to find a job straight away and have been there ever since.

[footymad13]

Where you working now Kenny ?

[The General]

Good signature Kenny ...

Kev

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[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (The General @ Nov. 11 2003,13:09)]Good signature Kenny ...

Kev

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Im not impressed i have you know im a model student, why do you keep changing subjects Kev, thats why WS locks um. I demand action &#33; http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

What is with people and the Signature, according to Daddy i was his love child &#33;, FB seems to think you cant support two teams apart from if your me, and Kenny seems to think im a failure.

Im going to be clincally depressed b4 my 16th birthday &#33;

[Yorkshire Blue]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 11 2003,15:41)]according to Daddy i was his love child
At least he hasn&#39;t denied responsibility for you.

[Durera]

Quote[/b] (Yorkshire Blue @ Nov. 11 2003,17:46)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Nov. 11 2003,15:41)]according to Daddy i was his love child
At least he hasn&#39;t denied responsibility for you.
<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>I bloody would...</span>