"A big cheer at the civic center"

[Kenny]

.....according to Paul Fitz on the SUFC mailing list.

Although this could mean anything, most likely it's just Ron or someone working the crowd

(just posted this in another topic that I think Shags just removed)

[Southend_Lady]

lets hope this is good news!!!!

[Norwich Shrimper]

Fingers crossed

[Pubey]

got to sweat it out now, didn't get back from uni in time to get down there... not expecting good news but hopefully a positive outcome for a revised application

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Fitz seemed to think it might be the team turning up

[mattytheshrimper]

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Shrimp_Stu]

Ron Martin has hired 2 coaches to ferry the players the short distance from Roots Hall to the Civic Center.........

[Kent Shrimper]

certainly packing them into SZ today as well with the numbers swelling to 241 online

[Einstein]

Just spoken to someone there and he said they are currently just going through the motions. Has no idea what the big cheer was either and has been there the last couple of hours!

Although said there was more outside earlier, but now 150 max who are freezing theirs ****s off...

Could hear the guy from the speaker, and sounded very dull !! Reckons it could be a while before the decision....

[Kenny]

Ron Martin has hired 2 coaches to ferry the players the short distance from Roots Hall to the Civic Center.........

With the size of our squad, 1 minibus would have sufficed!

[sufcjoe]

just wondering what happens if it gets rejected today:confused:

[Jay_Shrimper]

@sufcjoe, we carry on I suppose, all feeling very deflated though.

[Robbshrimp]

We keep trying....

[Einstein]

*** UPDATE ***

Roger Weaver comes to window encouraging supporters outside to sing up waving scarf.

A chorus of "sit down shut up" followed, aimed towards the speaker at that time moaning about the flats being built there!

Not sure that the chant was too helpful, but rather amusing to hear it outside Civic Centre!!

[One Roy McDonagh]

Keep the faith.,..if it doesnt happen today it is only a matter of time before it gets approved.

[chrisblore]

*** UPDATE ***

Roger Weaver comes to window encouraging supporters outside to sing up waving scarf.

A chorus of "sit down shut up" followed, aimed towards the speaker at that time moaning about the flats being built there!

Not sure that the chant was too helpful, but rather amusing to hear it outside Civic Centre!!

Good stuff, although I'm not sure football chants are going to sway the decision, which may or may not be a good thing :)

[Kent Shrimper]

Good stuff, although I'm not sure football chants are going to sway the decision, which may or may not be a good thing :)

Make great watching though, especially when they show it on SSN later :D

[londonblue]

Make great watching though, especially when they show it on SSN later :D

I don't think they can hear from inside the council chamber.

[Jam_Man]

Just got back. Left civic centre at 2.45 and there was no singing whatsover up until that point (except when players arrived at 1.45), just a couple of hundred cold shrimpers trying to hear whats said on the tannoy.

Lots of dull discussions about retail units when I left and sounded like it was going to go on for hours yet.

[mattytheshrimper]

Why you leave?

[Ricey]

Maybe because its freezing outside?

[Jam_Man]

Had to get back to work, a two hour lunch as much as I could get away with:)

Crowd has dwindled by about 50% by then.

[Kenny]

Why you leave?

Because I needed him back in the office to polish my boots at 3pm. :D

[Artfulshrimper]

Maybe because its freezing outside?

Bah, that's not freezing, he should've been on the Russian Convoys with uncle Albert.... during the war.

Hopw long before this forum crashes? its getting longer and longer with each refresh:eek:

CMON SOUTHEND COUNCIL....... for once !!! Do something right !

[Ricey]

Took me two minutes to post a quick reply a minute ago!

[Kent Shrimper]

Took me two minutes to post a quick reply a minute ago!

isnt that time traveling? :p

[Ricey]

Confused myself with that post.

[Southend_Lady]

[QUOTE]isnt that time traveling?

:D there are probs though - one of my mates cant get on at all saying page cant be displayed

[stickyboy]

I was outside with just under 2 hundred locked out shrimpers. Left at 3 as was losing the will to live. The sit down shut up was quite amusing - but your could hardly hear the tannoy and was a load of b*ll*x

[Ricey]

Glad I didn't make the trip now.

[londonblue]

Glad I didn't make the trip now.

Blimey, make your mind up!

[MattE]

Bet the players are bored sh*tless.

[Ricey]

Blimey, make your mind up!

Well I was expecting to drive up there 2pm they say Yes or No then go home but sod standing in the cold all that time and not know anything.

[Jam_Man]

The point was to show support so just showing up was a positive thing....

[Jam_Man]

Well I was expecting to drive up there 2pm they say Yes or No then go home but sod standing in the cold all that time and not know anything.


Not had much dealings with Councils then :)

[Ricey]

Not at All!

[The Flying Scotsman]

Was Eastwood there?

[Jai]

Eastwood was indeed there with the rest of the playing squad.

[Jam_Man]

I didnt see Eastwood. Wasnt paying that much attention though.

Bumped into Mark Gower at the coffee stand and he didnt sound confident but to be fair he said he couldnt hear/understand most of what was being discussed. Must be pretty boring for them, still at least they had a seat inside!

[mattytheshrimper]

is there still no news?

[Jam_Man]

Yes, we all know the answer but are keeping it from you :)

Hopefully we will hear soon, but from the level of detail they were talking about wouldnt be surprised if it goes on sometime.

[stickyboy]

someone mentioned it will take upto 3 or 4 hours to me

[mattytheshrimper]

oh my god. taking ages!!!!!

[Ricey]

GRRR! So frustrating.

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

someone mentioned it will take upto 3 or 4 hours to me

well i'll wish there hurry up, say yes, and then we can get on with life :D

[thechampionship_isupsidedown]

I left there about 2.50. Nothing was happening of any substance. It seems on first blush that the council officials were questioning the club's figures re retail space, and that this was a bit of a problem as the numbers didnt add up. Saw Gower and JCR milling around outisde on thier mobiles, quite obviously bored with the whole thing! JCR did have nice rhythms on, tho!!!

[One Roy McDonagh]

can't be much longer can it?

[ldnfatso]

someone mentioned it will take upto 3 or 4 hours to me

Trying to milk it on tea/coffee sales! Cunning Stunts eh!!

[Jam_Man]

Its a huge project with lots of different areas. Imagine what the supporters outside the civic centre are feeling, if they are still able to feel any thing at all now :)

[Smiffy]

Reports are reaching me that Mr CSJ tried to gain entry to the council chambers to show his disgust at the plans, but was pounced upon by several police officers and led away.


:D

[Jam_Man]

Was he wearing brown suede shoes per chance ?

[Kent Shrimper]

well i'll wish there hurry up, say yes, and then we can get on with life :D

indeed all 241 of us that have been sat lurking on SZ for the past few hours refreshing like mad people

[Smiffy]

More reports suggest rumours of a green light for the project, stand by for confirmation...

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

indeed all 241 of us that have been sat lurking on SZ for the past few hours refreshing like mad people

yeah at least when you refresh there some new news to read :cool:

[Jay_Shrimper]

"We've just heard that fans of southend united may not find out the result today. If we do get a result today, we will give it as soon as we get it."

Also heard, "If it was just the stadium, it would clearly get the nod, but its the things that come with it is whats stopping the nod. Things such as flats, cars and traffic are all being considered.

Hope thats ok to post it? Just heard it on radio 96.3. :D

[Smiffy]

Was he wearing brown suede shoes per chance ?

He does own a pair of brown suede shoes yes...

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

More reports suggest rumours of a green light for the project, stand by for confirmation...

And your no giving us false hope :eek: ?

[thechampionship_isupsidedown]

tan leather!

[Jay_Shrimper]

Incase this gets missed....

"We've just heard that fans of southend united may not find out the result today. If we do get a result today, we will give it as soon as we get it."

Also heard, "If it was just the stadium, it would clearly get the nod, but its the things that come with it is whats stopping the nod. Things such as flats, cars and traffic are all being considered."

Hope thats ok to post it? Just heard it on radio 96.3. :D

[Smiffy]

And your no giving us false hope :eek: ?

Just writing what I have received via sms from an SZ member at the CC..

[The General]

Mate was talking to the G man LOL down at Westcliff last night (whilst losing lots of money) and he wasn't exactly looking forward to it as he thought it would be boring! How right he was!

Kev

:D

[Ricey]

I do not have any nails left!

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

Just writing what I have received via sms from an SZ member at the CC..

Please dear god let it be true!!!

[londonblue]

indeed all 241 of us that have been sat lurking on SZ for the past few hours refreshing like mad people

I reckon we'll be lucky to have an answer before 6.00pm.

[Adrian C]

"If it was just the station"

surely that's Stadium, or is there a new railway going in.....:p

[Jay_Shrimper]

Woops. My bad. I type to quickly for my mind to keep up. :$

[chrisblore]

"We've just heard that fans of southend united may not find out the result today. If we do get a result today, we will give it as soon as we get it."

Oh please let there be a result today. I'll cry otherwise! :mad:

[Smiffy]

Don't believe a word Essex FM say, they no sweet FA about OUR club.

[Ricey]

Oh please let there be a result today. I'll cry otherwise! :mad:

I will too! I have been looking forward to this since they announced the date of when the meeting was on the OS.

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

Oh please let there be a result today. I'll cry otherwise! :mad:

Southend bourgh council please take note this is enough to make a grown man cry now let us no the dam answer !!!!

[Jay_Shrimper]

Alright, sorry Smiffy. I was only posting what I heard.

Sowwie!

[longball]

for gods sake i can't hold on much longer....are they gettin pleasure from keeping us waiting....i'm glad i'm not there but then i'm annoyed cos i wanna hear it first up!!!! ahhhhh...new to all this btw

[One Roy McDonagh]

Oh please let there be a result today. I'll cry otherwise! :mad:

Think we all will

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

for gods sake i can't hold on much longer....are they gettin pleasure from keeping us waiting....i'm glad i'm not there but then i'm annoyed cos i wanna hear it first up!!!! ahhhhh...new to all this btw

Welcome longball, glad southend don't play the way your username says :)

[Jay_Shrimper]

Wellcome to SZ longball. :)

I'm sure we will all hear in due course. :P

[Ricey]

200 People viewing the Shrimpers Chit-Chat section LOL!

Lot of egar fans.

[TMWLT]

Was he wearing brown suede shoes per chance ?

Yes he was... why?

[Blueshrimper]

Its like the last day of he transfer window.

[longball]

yeh tell me about it...couldn't think of anything else...sooooo well there u go...!!! i'm literally gripping onto my seat atm its actually FRUSTRATING!!!! and thanx 4 the welcome :)

[longball]

anything to lighten the mood???

[HUTTON]

2hrs and no news :(

[Xàbia Shrimper]

It IS Item 4 ...

[chrisblore]

for gods sake i can't hold on much longer....are they gettin pleasure from keeping us waiting....i'm glad i'm not there but then i'm annoyed cos i wanna hear it first up!!!! ahhhhh...new to all this btw

I wish the maxim "no news is good news" would apply here. Alas, I fear it may not as many of us aren't expecting it to be approved today :(

Now hurry up and give us the damn answer :mad:

[Jay_Shrimper]

.... meaning its the 4th item to be discussed? :D

[longball]

i had really good vibes about it all goin smoothly, yes celebrations tonight,but oh no.....PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!! feel the love

[The General]

Its like the last day of he transfer window.

Oh god thats just as bad!!

:rolleyes:

[Adrian C]

Well a big cheer has just gone up outside the CC, but being on the 6th floor I have no idea what the result is (yet)

[Southend_Lady]

APPROVED!!!!! unanimous vote for it!!!!!!!!

[One Roy McDonagh]

.... meaning its the 4th item to be discussed? :D

But early items are probably more admin...apologies for absence etc

[Ricey]

Oh god thats just as bad!!

:rolleyes:

And thats only a week away!

[Davros]

for real??

[Blueshrimper]

Just got a phone call. We got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jay_Shrimper]

Sign along....

A moment like this! Some people wait a lifetime, for a moment like this! Some people search forever, for that one special word! I can't believe this is happening to us! Some people wait a lifetime, for a moment like this!

Everything chages, but we still remain, something so tender, I can't explain, I maybe dreaming to stay awake.

A moment like this, some people wait a lifetime, for a moment like this! Some people search forever! For that one special word...Oh I can't believe this is happening to us! Some people wait a lifetime, for a moment like thissssss!

Come on guys, please give us a result soon! I'm begging now. :D

[ozzy-shrimper]

Approved!! Just spoke to Fredheim_holm. He said it was worth the wait.

[longball]

is it a YES???? O PLease be a YES!!! confirm yes or no....

[Ricey]

Seriously!!!!

[Slipperduke]

APPROVED!!!!! unanimous vote for it!!!!!!!!

Are you serious?

....tread carefuly....

[chrisblore]

Just got a phone call. We got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't it still have to go to the Secretary of State though :confused:

[blueritethru]

I left there 30 mins ago,they are so negative it really does,nt look very promising. I hope i am wrong, i really do.:mad:

[Jay_Shrimper]

O0mg! I Can't Beleive This - Did We Really Get It Or Are People Liying!??!?!

[Blueshrimper]

is it a YES???? O PLease be a YES!!! confirm yes or no....
Yep it has been confirmed!

[longball]

Oooooooooooooooo Yeh Curmon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Adrian C]

there seem to be plenty of happy Shrimpers out side :)

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Really?!

REALLY?!

[Yorkshire Blue]

The most exciting property development news in Southend today will be the rent Asda have agreed for their George "fashion" store in Southend High Street.

The rent of £124.50 psf of Zone A is a record for the High Street apparently.

[Ricey]

Get In!!!!

[Smiffy]

I will name the person who I have received the following txt off of as I dont want to be shot down if it turns out to be total bollox...

Message reads..

Fossetts Farm application approved by Southend Borough Council, 13 to nil

we are half way there, now for Rochford Councils hearing tomorrow..

Ron has come out to mass applause..

Text update courtesy of SZ member.....TrueBlue.

[adwebb16]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Well done Ron!

[essexgirl]

fantastic news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xàbia Shrimper]

SZ on the verge of crashing!!

[Shrimp_Stu]

ECHO STORY (http://www.echo-news.co.uk/display.var.1144859.0.breaking_news_blues_stadium_ bid_is_backed.php)

Do we believe 'em??

[Slipperduke]

Wahey! Well done all!

[Pubey]

APPROVED!!!!! unanimous vote for it!!!!!!!!


really!"?!?!

[longball]

ooooo don't you just want to snog them all??????

[stickyboy]

what happens if this one is turned down tomorrow though?

[Jai]

From what I've heard good news is in the offing...
Edit: Doh everyone else got there first!

[Adrian C]

SZ on the verge of crashing!!

Ah, but for a good reason Mike (love the avatar by the way)

Congratulations Shrimpers everywhere. Bring on Rochford.....

[conehead12]

is this true or not???

[chrisblore]

what happens if this one is turned down tomorrow though?

Sod the training pitches and car park. Let's just go ahead anyway :D

Bulldozers move in tonight!

[Interpol Shrimper]

Get In!!!!!

[Jam_Man]

Surprised anyone can actually understand whats going on.

Wonder what time it finishes.

[Slipperduke]

Right, who's coming to Fossett's Farm to start work? I've got a toolkit and everything!

[Kent Shrimper]

Confirmed on Echo news

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/southendnews/display.var.1144859.0.breaking_news_blues_stadium_ bid_is_backed.php

[Ricey]

This is one of the happiest DAYS OF MY LIFE!!

[HUTTON]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[One Roy McDonagh]

Greeeeaaaattttt

[conehead12]

Get in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blueshrimper]

Brilliant stuff! Fantastic work Ron!

[callan]

Is anyone going to spare a thought for CS J?...No...oh well.

[Ricey]

Shame he is banned would of loved to see what he would of had to of said!

[chrisblore]

Is anyone going to spare a thought for CS J?...No...oh well.

Yeah. Git!

:D

[Beefy]

Bloody hell.

So what does this mean? What about tomorrow? Does it still get called in? So confused....

[Kestrel]

This is one of the happiest DAYS OF MY LIFE!!

i'm sure Ron is harbouring those thoughts !!!

a great day for the club - makes me proud to be a shrimper

Al

[Robbshrimp]

Unbelieveable news, finally can look forward to decent toilets for at least a few weeks. :D

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Folks, it's only the first step ...

[Lucas D]

Right, who's coming to Fossett's Farm to start work? I've got a toolkit and everything!

I dont have any tools, however, I am more then willing to start digging with my hands.

[Ricey]

Bloody hell.

So what does this mean? What about tomorrow? Does it still get called in? So confused....

Your not the only one! I have no idea what happens now.

[Spikey Shrimper]

I've just exploded in my pants!!!!


Yeah!!!!!

[mattytheshrimper]

**** Yeh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[One Roy McDonagh]

Folks, it's only the first step ...


Lets enjoy the moment though

[Pubey]

un-****-ing believable!!!! after all the worries over the last few days (and rightly it seemed) i can't believe it, now just get rochford to approve the training stuff and it's all go!

[Mrs_Gower]

The best news Ive heard in ages!! Get in!!!!!

Well done Shrimpers!!!

[Clarky_Blues]

Superb news - full credit to Ron and everything he has done in achieving this project.

Great day for SUFC. Just think of that first game at the new stadium!

[Ricey]

I can't wait to choose my seat! Will be a nice fresh new seat!

[RootsHallRush2]

Now we've just to figure out how to move The Spread over!!

If we all make a chain we can do it brick by brick:D

[Jam_Man]

Fantastic news, what a year we have had!

Championship, beating Man Utd and best of all moving to a fantastic stadium.

[Kenny]

As Mike said, excellent news but I still feel we have a few hurdles yet until the first brick is laid. (which is the point I finally believe this is happening to us)

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Remember: Rochford Council have recommended refusing the proposal for the training pitches and the car-park. This is just the first step. Tomorrow we could all be experiencing an entirely different emotion.

[Smiffy]

Exactly Ruth Kelly (Sec Of State) still has to look at it and Rochford Council still have a massive say tomorrow...

[Beefy]

As Mike said, excellent news but I still feel we have a few hurdles yet until the first brick is laid. (which is the point I finally believe this is happening to us)

True, Ken, but this was a massive step. With Southend Council seemingly having given the plans the green light I imagine that the pressure on Rochford Council to do the same tomorrow will be massive.

[Upminster Blue]

Folks, it's only the first step ...

Indeed. I have no doubt that the finances are there/can be raised given the potential profit in this for Ron.

But the permission of Rochford Council is equally important, so I'm lead to believe, due to water/drainage facilties that will be on Rochford land. Without these, the new stadium may not be economically viable (due to the extra money that would need to be spent on water/drainage for the stadium).

[Xàbia Shrimper]

It's still good news though. Today we've got further that we've ever got towards that new stadium.

[chrisblore]

Remember: Rochford Council have recommended refusing the proposal for the training pitches and the car-park. This is just the first step. Tomorrow we could all be experiencing an entirely different emotion.

Sod Rochford. I think their rejection is pretty much inevitable, I'm afraid. The question is, what do we do from that point? Can we still go ahead without the car park and training pitches? I rather think not, but I'm sure Ron realises that.

[Jai]

Indeed. It is vital that as many Rochford borough residents as possible get themselves down to Rayleigh tomorrow night and do the same all over again, I have no doubt that supporters helped influence the decision of councillors today.

If you are a resident of Rochford borough I recommend you send a well-written email to your local member of the planning committee and advise them which way they should be voting tomorrow night.

[Jam_Man]

Remember: Rochford Council have recommended refusing the proposal for the training pitches and the car-park. This is just the first step. Tomorrow we could all be experiencing an entirely different emotion.

Cant see us getting agreement for everything else and Rochford being able to stop it now.

Surely the hard work is done now.

[pickledseal]

Indeed. It is vital that as many Rochford borough residents as possible get themselves down to Rayleigh tomorrow night and do the same all over again, I have no doubt that supporters helped influence the decision of councillors today.

If you are a resident of Rochford borough I recommend you send a well-written email to your local member of the planning committee and advise them which way they should be voting tomorrow night.

Where do we do that? I am still a registered wakering person which is rochford council!

[Matt the Shrimp]

Had it confirmed by the boy Scriv. Yep - still need to get past Rochford and the Secretary of State will call it in.

But for those who have seen Southend councils in the past successively turn down application after application, let us be in no doubt - Ron's achievement is truly enormous.

My cap is well and truly doffed - Ron has truly transformed this club. What a guy.

:D

Matt

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

See what happens when you pop for a cuppa..... THE BEST FECKING NEWS !!!!!!
!
wooo
Now whos going rayleigh :)

[One Roy McDonagh]

Anyone have Uncle Ron's email address so I can write and thank him...truely awesome achievement to get it this far...

[Southend_Lady]

Originally Posted by Xàbia Shrimper
Remember: Rochford Council have recommended refusing the proposal for the training pitches and the car-park. This is just the first step. Tomorrow we could all be experiencing an entirely different emotion.



Cant see us getting agreement for everything else and Rochford being able to stop it now.

Surely the hard work is done now.

The ground is the main bit, now that has been approved I cant see Rochford going against it.

[chrisblore]

Had it confirmed by the boy Scriv. Yep - still need to get past Rochford and the Secretary of State will call it in.


Our work is still not done. Let's go and stand outside her office until she approves our application :eek:

[madaboutblues]

Have not done a s**** of work this afternoon apart from clicking on the refresh button but it was worth it.
Let's hope tomorrow is the same result.

[Upminster Blue]

still need to get past Rochford and the Secretary of State will call it in.


So, it will still be called in even if Rochford approve their bit? On what grounds would that be?

Also, how long would the Secretary of State take to do his review? Years I'd wager, which doesn't seem to tie in with Ron's timetable of construction work starting this year.

Confused of Upminster.

[Adrian C]

Had it confirmed by the boy Scriv. Yep - still need to get past Rochford and the Secretary of State will call it in.


Does what happens to the plans for the Roots Hall site have any bearing too? Especially from a financial point of view?

AC

[Southend_Lady]

How long will it take now that she has to decide it then???

[Jay_Shrimper]

The ground is the main bit, now that has been approved I cant see Rochford going against it.

If they do go against us. I'm moving from Rochford. :mad:



THIS IS THE BEST NEWS ALL YEAR! :D

[chrisblore]

How long will it take now that she has to decide it then???

Too long. Look at how long Brighton's application has taken :eek:

[Pubey]

maybe some kind of SZ thanks to RM and the club could be organised!?

[Jam_Man]

Is this the quickest growing thread ever?

[MilkeySUFC]

I am truely amazed. Never dreamed it would happen on the first hearing.

Ron is my new all-time hero.

[Upminster Blue]

Does what happens to the plans for the Roots Hall site have any bearing too? Especially from a financial point of view?

AC

From what I'm lead to believe, whether we get £2m, say, or £10m, say, for Roots Hall (which will depend on the type of development approved) is neither here nor there in the general finances of the move.

[Maldon Blues]

Does what happens to the plans for the Roots Hall site have any bearing too? Especially from a financial point of view?

AC

Not to the development itself, but certainly to finances.

The proposed plans for Roots Hall (a supermarket and residential strip) look like being refused.

[Jay_Shrimper]

"Southend United are given the green light for a brand new stadium following 4 years of hard work from the club. Ron Martin is delighted with the news.

Southend United plan to start work on the new stadium on the Fosset's Farm site, following the go ahead from an inquiry.

Ron Martin told the club's official website "This is the culmination of four years hard work for us."

"We always felt there would be a positive outcome but you can never be certain as these things are something of a lottery.

"It's very positive for the club though and for the town of Southend as well, so it came as no surprise that they've backed the plans.

"We're delighted. It's a massive boost for us and I feel this new stadium complex will bring further success to Southend United.

"This is an opportunity to make sure Southend United has a future because we've been treading water over the past four years but that will change.""

[Matt the Shrimp]

Too long. Look at how long Brighton's application has taken :eek:

Veerrrry different. Brighton's ground was approved by Brighton & Hove council, when in fact it was discovered that most of the site was in Lewes. In addition, the site for Brighton's ground is stated to be an area of outstanding natural beauty, which ours isn't.

Thirdly... we've got Ron. This is a man who clearly knows what he's doing.

Matt

[Xàbia Shrimper]

So what happens IF the proposals for the training pitches, etc. ARE rejected?

[chrisblore]

Veerrrry different. Brighton's ground was approved by Brighton & Hove council, when in fact it was discovered that most of the site was in Lewes. In addition, the site for Brighton's ground is stated to be an area of outstanding natural beauty, which ours isn't.

Thirdly... we've got Ron. This is a man who clearly knows what he's doing.

Matt

I stand corrected but will reserve judgment overall until the dust settles I think :confused:

[glensufc]

So what happens IF the proposals for the training pitches, etc. ARE rejected?

It's not just the training pitches but the car park as well. I don't want to spoil everybody's joy but we have to get through tomorrow. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rochford refused the plans.

[Xàbia Shrimper]

It's not just the training pitches but the car park as well. I don't want to spoil everybody's joy but we have to get through tomorrow. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rochford refused the plans.

Hence the "etc.", Glen old-boy!

;)

[Matt the Shrimp]

So, it will still be called in even if Rochford approve their bit? On what grounds would that be?

Also, how long would the Secretary of State take to do his review? Years I'd wager, which doesn't seem to tie in with Ron's timetable of construction work starting this year.

Confused of Upminster.

Pretty sure Ruth Kelly gets to look at all stadium applications as Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government - they're automatically "called in". However, provided that the council has followed all pre-existing laws and regulations governing the basis on which they approved the planning application, I can't see how or why Ruth Kelly would overturn the council's decision.

I think Ron has played a canny game, here. I think it's vitally important that just as many fans turn up tomorrow. At the end of the day, councillors are politicians. If you've got hundreds of electors (irrespective of whether or not they're wearing the blue of Southend) sitting there, listening to you deliberate... that's a powerful effect. You'll think long and hard before saying "no".

So, all you Blues who live in Rochford council area... turn up tomorrow!

Matt

[Smiffy]

ALL of us must get down to Rayleigh Council offices tomorrow..

No excuses!.

7pm

[Jay_Shrimper]

Radio Report coming up, I'll try and get everything I can. :)

Southend bc express concern about how the area would cope. Andy Brown on the phone! :unsure: SFC fan...Atmosphere was fantastic! Wondering and hoping.. 13-0 unanimous vote.

Rochford BC choice tommorow because it goes into thier land as well.

Well that wasn't much new, was it?

[Kent Shrimper]

Interesting reading on the OS and you can see where Ron has done his homework. None of the existing High street stores can relocate for 5 years and we agree to certain points on traffic. Mans a genius

http://www.southendunited.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10444~970110,00.html

[glensufc]

Hence the "etc.", Glen old-boy!

;)

Sorry missed that.

[pickledseal]

use this to keep an eye on various reports coming in (although none there yet), its a great resource

NewsNow (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Southend+United+FC)

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Mr Martin said (both proposals) were "inextricably linked" and the development could not go ahead without the backing of both councils.


Oh dear ...

[Kent Shrimper]

Oh dear ...

But there is a hell of a lot of pressure on RBC to completley destroy the project. Would take brave soles to say no :rolleyes:

[bluearmy1]

Seriously ...excellent news. The best news for Southend United in 20 years.

All the news as it comes in on Longpier (http://www.longpier.blogspot.com)

[Southend_Lady]

But there is a hell of a lot of pressure on RBC to completley destroy the project. Would take brave soles to say no :rolleyes:

Yes my thoughts exactly, they will be making ALOT of people very unhappy. I think their decision was always going to hinge on today. Most likely that if they do apporve it there will be things that need to be changed/adjusted.
Lets be confident afterall no one thought it would get the approval today but 13-0 thats our best score of the season! Lets all get down there tomorrow its just as important now, if not more so....

[Einstein]

Oh dear ...

Are you intentionally just trying to wind people up because it really is quite boring to read?!

It is a positive step, not the last step, but one hell of a positive one, so stop trying to be CS J's replacement.

[Beefy]

Its the scrolling breaking news on SSN.

Its only now sinking in that its really happening.

[sufcintheprem]

For a few posts then I was really confused as to why the Royal Bank of Canada was going to step in and object.

It's been a long day...

[Bielzibubz]

In short the FF development can and will go ahead regardless of tomorrows outcome. It was stated at today's meeting that any arrangements re: on Rochford land can and probably would be amended should it be rejected.

The training pitches aren't the stumbling block, the 200 odd car parking spaces are however and they can be incorporated elsewhere withing the project should it be necessary.

Rejoice people. This is indeed the start of a brand new dawn in the life of our beloved club. Well done Ron, well done everyone involved.

[Olisadavey]

The club is finally moving the right direction and the future is looking a lot better than it was even a couple of hours ago. Can't we all just be delighted that we are finally moving in the direction we want to be moving in?

Personally I'm so very, very, very happy at the news. We've been waiting so long to get this far, come on RBC, do the right thing...

[Shrimperman Mark II]

[QUOTE=D62SUBOY;363313]The training pitches aren't the stumbling block, the 200 odd car parking spaces are however and they can be incorporated elsewhere withing the project should it be necessary.[QUOTE]

...in which case would require planning permission again since its not whats stated in the proposal. In theory, as the proposal itself has been accepted, this amendment would be accepted, but it will take time

[Matt the Shrimp]

Are you intentionally just trying to wind people up because it really is quite boring to read?!

It is a positive step, not the last step, but one hell of a positive one, so stop trying to be CS J's replacement.

Chill, mate - I think Mike is expressing concern (that many of us share) that the Rochford councillors might not be quite so "on message" as the Southend Councillors evidently were as to the virtues of the stadium application.

That's why it's important that everyone turns up tomorrow. The Rochford Councillors might need some gentle reminding as to just how many electors are directly involved in and affected by their decision.

This is democracy in action, folks - power to the people, but the people need to turn up to show that they truly have the power.

:)

[Southend_Lady]

Can we please just confirm that it is in rayleigh and not rochford or vice versa as some of us are confused :confused:

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Are you intentionally just trying to wind people up because it really is quite boring to read?!

It is a positive step, not the last step, but one hell of a positive one, so stop trying to be CS J's replacement.

NO!

Read what I posted again, will you? Stop jumping to idiotic conclusions.

I was merely pointing out a statement from Ron Martin, chairman of Southend United Football Club, in which he claimed that both proposals had to be approved if the stadium development was to go ahead! After all the stress of waiting for this announcement from Southend Borough Council, I suggested that we're going to have to go through it all over again tomorrow evening as Rochford District Council deliberates!

I have IN MY HAND a copy of the Development Control Committee agenda - Item 4 - in which the proposal for the training pitches and car-park is considered and - on page 48 - are the words: "it is proposed that this Committee RESOLVES to REFUSE the application ..."

Now, unless you want me to get busy with the tippex and remove this, I am highlighting the fact that we've won the first battle this afternoon but a second even bigger battle is to come tomorrow; we shouldn't get carried away because it's not over yet.

Is that boring enough for you?!

[sufcintheprem]

Regarding RBC's influence on this, I'm with Phil and not just because I'm called Phil.

I doubt the club would be so forthright with it on the main website unless this decision is key. I think the urging of supporters to attend the RBC hearing is still important but probably not a dealbreaker. After all, even if they restrict training ground availability, there will still be a stadium there.

Mainly though, the presentation of the news on the OS seems decisive in my mind.

[Airmiles]

NO!

Read what I posted again, will you? Stop jumping to idiotic conclusions.

I was merely pointing out a statement from Ron Martin, chairman of Southend United Football Club, in which he claimed that both proposals had to be approved if the stadium development was to go ahead! After all the stress of waiting for this announcement from Southend Borough Council, I suggested that we're going to have to go through it all over again tomorrow evening as Rochard District Council deliberates!

I have IN MY HAND a copy of the Development Control Committee agenda - Item 4 - in which the proposal for the training pitches and car-park is considered and - on page 48 - are the words: "it is proposed that this Committee RESOLVES to REFUSE the application ..."

Now, unless you want me to get busy with the tippex and remove this, I am highlighting the fact that we've won the first battle this afternoon but a second even bigger battle is to come tomorrow; we shouldn't get carried away because it's not over yet.

Is that boring enough for you?!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Robbshrimp]

People forget Ron Martin is a property developer, guy is no idiot and would have thought out many clever plans for the stadium and ways around certain problems, the council are likely to oppose.

[Shrimpergarry]

How long will it take now that she has to decide it then???

Usually takes up to 2 months from the time she receives all the paperwork from Southend Borough Council (via the Department of Communities and Local Government).

Only when she has (hopefully) decided to let Southend Borough Council determine the application AND both SUFC and the Council have signed the Section 106 legal agreement (to agree our contributions towards goodness knows what!) will we actually receive formal planning consent.

In essence the completion of the legal agreements can continue whilst the Secretary of State is considering the matter - provided Ron is willing to take the risk of incurring legal fees.

[Shrimperstrust]

[QUOTE=That's why it's important that everyone turns up tomorrow. The Rochford Councillors might need some gentle reminding as to just how many electors are directly involved in and affected by their decision.[/QUOTE]

The Trust in conjuction with their coach operator SBC Leisure will be laying on the Trust coach for travel to & from tomorrow nights meeting at Rayleigh.

It will leave Roots Hall at 6.30 pm.

This will be on a first come first served basis only & when full that's it.

[sufcintheprem]

Isn't this in the wrong forum?

???






:;):

[fredheim_holm]

This is amazing news, and I really thought it was going to get deffered. Worth the cold and boring hours, and I got a pic with Ron Martin, quality!

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

The Trust in conjuction with their coach operator SBC Leisure will be laying on the Trust coach for travel to & from tomorrow nights meeting at Rayleigh.

It will leave Roots Hall at 6.30 pm.

This will be on a first come first served basis only & when full that's it.

So it's free or do we need to chuck a fiver your way ?
and are you exspecting to feel the coach ?

[Bielzibubz]

Trust me, today's decision was taken with certain provisions being put in place regarding local parking, travelling arrangements on match days and space in certain areas of the development.

RC can, and probably will, take the same decision with the plans submitted to them. As I said before and was mentioned at today's meeting, the stumbling block as far as RC is concerned is not the training pitches as such but the 200 parking spaces located on green belt land. For them to put the kybosh on this whole project because of 200 car parking spaces would, IMO, be suicidal and I expect them to ok the application with certain provisions being made.

But that's just my opinion.

[Murkey_Mouse]

ALL of us must get down to Rayleigh Council offices tomorrow..


I will be there, pressure on them to say yes ......

Otherwise its the best new we can ask for, I never thought we get a 13-0 vote from the SBC to give the plan the go-ahead, at last Southend Council did something right for once.

I reckon CSJ & his girlsfriend Sue Steer must be crying in their cornflake tomorrow morning.

PS: Who is looking forward to Spurs Vs Southend now? what a lift for the players now they know they will have a bright future in the next 2 year!

[Shrimperstrust]

So it's free or do we need to chuck a fiver your way ?
and are you exspecting to feel the coach ?

It's free, but donations welcome :D

Hopefully we will fill it, so best to get there early

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

Fantastic. I take back all I ever said about the council on this issue. They've quite unbelievably done the right thing. Fantastic. Rochford to follow tomorrow hopefully.

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

It's free, but donations welcome :D

Hopefully we will fill it, so best to get there early

Thanks for the details, hope to be there :)

[Jay_Shrimper]

If the rochford team want to remain a team, they best vote for it, otherwise we vote for other people to go in for it. :D

[mattytheshrimper]

when does building start. tomorrow?

seriously does anyone know when?

[Jam_Man]

3 months from agreement.

[BrettieAngell]

****ing get in!!!! Great news for the club, its been a long time coming aswell!

[TrueBlue]

ALL of us must get down to Rayleigh Council offices tomorrow..

No excuses!.

7pm

You will be there then?

I mite have to shag Ruth Kelly for the good of the club on this one lads

[chrisblore]

I mite have to shag Ruth Kelly for the good of the club on this one lads

A bit extreme, surely? I wouldn't if you paid me a very, very large sum of money :eek:

[Bielzibubz]

I mite have to shag Ruth Kelly for the good of the club on this one lads

Does she take drugs then:confused:.....she'll need em :D:p

[TrueBlue]

Just put a paper bag over her head and do her in the wrongun!

[Southampton Shrimper]

Story now on BBC website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/6296215.stm

[Bluesmanager]

Interesting last paragraph there.

Excellent news.

[Tinks]

How long will it take now that she has to decide it then???

From expierence last year of going through something similiar, the appeal went to John (two jags) Prescott's office and was rubber stamped by them reccomending approval. On re-presenting to RC they again turned it down. From appeal to re-hearing it must have taken almost 8-9 months.
On a personal level I want this to go through as I have already arranged my parking space for when the new stadium is active. Perks of the job!!!

[Bielzibubz]

From expierence last year of going through something similiar, the appeal went to John (two jags) Prescott's office and was rubber stamped by them reccomending approval. On re-presenting to RC they again turned it down. From appeal to re-hearing it must have taken almost 8-9 months.
On a personal level I want this to go through as I have already arranged my parking space for when the new stadium is active. Perks of the job!!!

:eek: I didn't know we had a fairy working at the club!!!!


oh, wait a minute.....:rolleyes:

[Tinks]

:eek: I didn't know we had a fairy working at the club!!!!


oh, wait a minute.....:rolleyes:

Oh you would be suprised at what I can do!!!!
and you know what they say about fairies. If not check your bedtime book!!

[Bielzibubz]

Oh you would be suprised at what I can do!!!!
and you know what they say about fairies. If not check your bedtime book!!

My bedtime book has no fairies in it I can assure you :D

Actually, what do they say about fairies?

(God, I hope I'm talking to a female and not a raving shirtlifter:confused::D)

[Tinks]

My bedtime book has no fairies in it I can assure you :D

Actually, what do they say about fairies?

(God, I hope I'm talking to a female and not a raving shirtlifter:confused::D)

Just make a wish. i can be whatever you want me to be!

[Bielzibubz]

Just make a wish. i can be whatever you want me to be!

After checking the profile I'm not even going to take the risk :D

.........zips it.........

[Kent Shrimper]

images of todays events from the echo

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/_images/db/38/93/XRN4S11_EO3_DH_STADIUM2.389352.full.jpg

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/_images/db/38/93/XLKF5_20_E03_SO_STADIUM.389349.full.jpg

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/_images/db/38/93/XLKF5_21_E03_SO_STADIUM.389350.full.jpg

even more images here

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/bluesstadiumpixgallery/

[Tinks]

After checking the profile I'm not even going to take the risk :D

.........zips it.........

hey when you get to reach my age, it's only fun. No harm intended

[fredheim_holm]

I'm the one on the right on the pic with Ron.

[fredheim_holm]

And in the 2nd pic too, enough of me though.

[Southendsleeper]

Hehe

Theres my mate in the photo where the echo photographer balanced precariously

I'm in the background on one of the Ron Martin photos

[Kent Shrimper]

I'm the one on the right on the pic with Ron.

Glasses, Blue Coat? ;)

[fredheim_holm]

White top, blue and yellow scarf.

[Bielzibubz]

hey when you get to reach my age, it's only fun. No harm intended

Hey, when you get to my age you get easily confused :D No harm done :)

[WickfordShrimper]

Glasses, Blue Coat? ;)


Very Funny.... good to see our older fans showing their support.. top marks to everyone who went....

Happy Days being a SHRIMPER

One Team In Essex
SOUTHEND UNITED FC

[Smiffy]

Do we now have to organise a mass e-mail circulation to Ruth Kelly?..

[TrueBlue]

Do we now have to organise a mass e-mail circulation to Ruth Kelly?..

just give her my number and we will be sorted ;)