Question

[Napster]

What England record does Atherton hold in Test matches?

[SUFC_Al]

What England record does Atherton hold in Test matches?

A stab in the dark...most not outs?

[C C Csiders]

A stab in the dark...most not outs?

Something tells me that that particular record is owned by Bob Willis.

As far as the Atherton question is concerned he might have batted for some part on each day of a test match on more than one occasion. Or is it to do with captaining England for more matches against Australia than any other England captain?

[Yorkshire Blue]

I think he holds a few.

Most games as England captain.
Most times dismissed by one bowler (Glenn McGrath).
Lowest average of anyone to have scored 6,000 test runs.
Only batsman to be run out on 99 at Lords

[Napster]

Ah, good shout, YB. I think this record he would be most embarrassed by.

[Yorkshire Blue]

Something tells me that that particular record is owned by Bob Willis.

As far as the Atherton question is concerned he might have batted for some part on each day of a test match on more than one occasion. Or is it to do with captaining England for more matches against Australia than any other England captain?

I'm not sure whether Bob Willis is a record-breaker, but I always think he sounds like a broken record.

[C C Csiders]

Ah, good shout, YB. I think this record he would be most embarrassed by.

Sweatiest box following an innings? Following the 185 he scored at Cape Town.

[Yorkshire Blue]

Ah, good shout, YB. I think this record he would be most embarrassed by.

I've given you 4 records, how many more do you want?

Is it do with Lords (as that is where they are playing)? eg most runs at Lords without a century.

Is it a captaincy record? eg most defeats as captain

Is it a batting record? eg was dismissed more times by McGrath than anybody has ever been dismissed by a single bowler.

A few clues wouldn't go (Dennis) amiss.

[Napster]

It's to do with batting.

[Yorkshire Blue]

Any more clues, I've already given you 3 batting records he holds!

[C C Csiders]

It's to do with batting.

Most ducks by an England opening batsman?

[Napster]

I'm not sure whether Bob Willis is a record-breaker, but I always think he sounds like a broken record.

I had the "pleasure" of going to a sportsmans dinner at which he was speaking. All his stories were about Beefy, and he spoke like a broken clock. Very, very monotonous and dull.

[Napster]

Most ducks by an England opening batsman?

Most ducks. Never mind the opening bit.

[Napster]

Most ducks

England - Test matches

Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0
MA Atherton 1989-2001 115 212 7 7728 185* 37.69 16 46 20
AR Caddick 1993-2003 62 95 12 861 49* 10.37 0 0 19
DL Underwood 1966-1982 86 116 35 937 45* 11.56 0 0 19
JA Snow 1965-1976 49 71 14 772 73 13.54 0 2 17
MJ Hoggard 2000-2007 63 86 27 444 38 7.52 0 0 17
TG Evans 1946-1959 91 133 14 2439 104 20.49 2 8 17
DE Malcolm 1989-1997 40 58 19 236 29 6.05 0 0 16
SJ Harmison 2002-2007 50 67 17 577 42 11.54 0 0 16
JE Emburey 1978-1995 64 96 20 1713 75 22.53 0 10 16
MW Gatting 1978-1995 79 138 14 4409 207 35.55 10 21 16
PCR Tufnell 1990-2001 42 59 29 153 22* 5.10 0 0 15
A Flintoff 1998-2007 66 108 6 3331 167 32.65 5 24 15
DW Randall 1977-1984 47 79 5 2470 174 33.37 7 12 14
D Gough 1994-2003 58 86 18 855 65 12.57 0 2 14
IT Botham 1977-1992 102 161 6 5200 208 33.54 14 22 14
N Hussain 1990-2004 96 171 16 5764 207 37.18 14 33 14
AJ Stewart 1990-2003 133 235 21 8463 190 39.54 15 45 14
JB Statham 1951-1965 70 87 28 675 38 11.44 0 0 13
FE Woolley 1909-1934 64 98 7 3283 154 36.07 5 23 13
GA Gooch 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13
AD Mullally 1996-2001 19 27 4 127 24 5.52 0 0 12
MR Ramprakash 1991-2002 52 92 6 2350 154 27.32 2 12 12
RGD Willis 1971-1984 90 128 55 840 28* 11.50 0 0 12
ME Trescothick 2000-2006 76 143 10 5825 219 43.79 14 29 12
GP Thorpe 1993-2005 100 179 28 6744 200* 44.66 16 39 12
AV Bedser 1946-1955 51 71 15 714 79 12.75 0 1 11
MJK Smith 1958-1972 50 78 6 2278 121 31.63 3 11 11
FS Trueman 1952-1965 67 85 14 981 39* 13.81 0 0 11
GA Hick 1991-2001 65 114 6 3383 178 31.32 6 18 11
PI Pocock 1968-1985 25 37 4 206 33 6.24 0 0 10
J Briggs 1884-1899 33 50 5 815 121 18.11 1 2 10
AFA Lilley 1896-1909 35 52 8 903 84 20.52 0 4 10
GR Dilley 1979-1989 41 58 19 521 56 13.35 0 2 10
CM Old 1972-1981 46 66 9 845 65 14.82 0 2 10
PAJ DeFreitas 1986-1995 44 68 5 934 88 14.82 0 4 10
RW Taylor 1971-1984 57 83 12 1156 97 16.28 0 3 10
DL Amiss 1966-1977 50 88 10 3612 262* 46.30 11 11 10
MA Butcher 1997-2004 71 131 7 4288 173* 34.58 8 23 10
DCS Compton 1937-1957 78 131 15 5807 278 50.06 17 28 10
G Boycott 1964-1982 108 193 23 8114 246* 47.72 22 42 10
NA Foster 1983-1993 29 45 7 446 39 11.73 0 0 9
ARC Fraser 1989-1998 46 67 15 388 32 7.46 0 0 9
AF Giles 1998-2006 54 81 13 1421 59 20.89 0 4 9
AJ Lamb 1982-1992 79 139 10 4656 142 36.09 14 18 9
MC Cowdrey 1954-1975 114 188 15 7624 182 44.06 22 38 9

[C C Csiders]

Freddie Flintoff 15 ducks in 66 matches doesn't make too great reading either.

[Yorkshire Blue]

Eh? Courtney Walsh, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath and possibly A.N.Other will all have more tests ducks than Atherton.

You should have specified it was an English test record, not a test record.

[Napster]

Eh? Courtney Walsh, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath and possibly A.N.Other will all have more tests ducks than Atherton.

You should have specified it was an English test record, not a test record.

What England record does Atherton hold in Test matches?

Erm, that does specify England record!

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[Yorkshire Blue]

Oops, I should have read the question more carefully!

[Ailsa Road Shrimper]

A very surprising and interesting statistic!

I always felt Atherton was an overrated batsman, his record against Australia was particularly disappointing. He was a poor man's Geoff Boycott

[Uncle Leo]

A very surprising and interesting statistic!

I always felt Atherton was an overrated batsman, his record against Australia was particularly disappointing. He was a poor man's Geoff Boycott

One of his big problems against Australia was playing a couple of series when he really shouldn't have. His bad back problems made him virtually immobile and IIRC there were a couple of series against the Baggy Greens where he only averaged about 20, maybe even less.

[Matt the Shrimp]

How galled will Atherton and Thorpe be to think that their names will never appear on the Lord's Honours board, while Cook & Bell have got theirs up there twice, Prior's is up there after his first Test, and even Rob "Supersize me" Key has got his name up there as well...?

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