Brit Tennis Shocker !!!!

[BLUEBLOOD]

I don't confess to knowing much about tennis but ....
Our Mixed Doubles duo of Bogdanovich and South have just knocked out the top seeds :eek: :eek: :eek:

[scrounger]

I was watching that match. I think they deserved it as well. I was very impressed with both players but especially South.

Not knowing a great deal about either, my first impression was that South would be weak. How wrong I was! She was playing some fantastic, aggressive, intelligent shots. Her serve was pretty much consistent throughout.

You know what will happen now don't you?! They will lose in the next round.

[seany t]

Bogdanovich?

British?

[Matt the Shrimp]

Bogdanovich?

British?

What, because he's got a funny surname? Give it a rest. The Royal family's real surname is Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (they changed it to "Windsor" at around the time of WWI, as we were fighting the Hun and it didn't do that our own King had a German surname), but I haven't seen anyone questioning their Britishness recently.

:flamer:

[seany t]

What, because he's got a funny surname? Give it a rest. The Royal family's real surname is Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (they changed it to "Windsor" at around the time of WWI, as we were fighting the Hun and it didn't do that our own King had a German surname), but I haven't seen anyone questioning their Britishness recently.

:flamer:

Yeah, fair point Matt. It was just an easy gag, nothing malicious...

[TrueBlue]

What, because he's got a funny surname? Give it a rest. The Royal family's real surname is Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (they changed it to "Windsor" at around the time of WWI, as we were fighting the Hun and it didn't do that our own King had a German surname), but I haven't seen anyone questioning their Britishness recently.

:flamer:

Wooooooooooooooo ITS LEFTY TIME ON SZ AGAIN!!! :guns: :cool:

[C C Csiders]

Bogdanovich?

British?

A refugee, as a child (about 4), I believe from war-torn former Yugoslavia. I don't think you could deny any Britishness over that?

[scrounger]

So is Elena Baltacha not British then as well?
Shall we move on to footballers...?!

[C C Csiders]

So is Elena Baltacha not British then as well?
Shall we move on to footballers...?!

Don't start on cricketers! An England XI (past and present) who would not be considered British by a huge section of people on these boards, as they were born overseas:

Andrew Strauss
Wilf Slack
Allan Lamb
Kevin Pietersen
Tony Greig
Roland Butcher
Geraint Jones
Philip deFreitas
Andrew Caddick
Devon Malcolm
Norman Cowans

[Matt the Shrimp]

Wooooooooooooooo ITS LEFTY TIME ON SZ AGAIN!!! :guns: :cool:

Can I just check - does being against a bit of lazy bigotry makes me a lefty?

:thump:

You wally.

:p

[seany t]

Can I just check - does being against a bit of lazy bigotry makes me a lefty?

I think bigotry's a bit harsh. A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own. I'm none of those things. I was merely questioning whether or not they were British, because Bogdanovitch isn't your typical British surname.

Individuals obviously have the right to represent a country they feel is their homeland should they feel strong enough connections to it - take Eastwood and Wales for example. I just get a bit tired of hearing about sportsmen representing countries in recent years where they obviously feel they have a better chance of getting higher up the pecking order and better sponsorship possibilities because of thats country's ineptness compared to their birth place - Rusedski, De Silva, Pieterson, Trott.

It's a fine line between representing the country you feel a strong affinity with and furthering your career these days, thats all - take Eastwood and Wales for example.

Having never met any of these people I may be totally wide of the mark, but I just wonder where fighting for your place and national pride went worldwide, not just here in the U.K.

The lazy part in your reply was spot on though...

[canveyshrimper]

Don't start on cricketers! An England XI (past and present) who would not be considered British by a huge section of people on these boards, as they were born overseas:

Andrew Strauss
Wilf Slack
Allan Lamb
Kevin Pietersen
Tony Greig
Roland Butcher
Geraint Jones
Philip deFreitas
Andrew Caddick
Devon Malcolm
Norman Cowans

You left out two of the greatest, Ted Dexter born in Milan & Colin Cowdrey born in Bangalore.

[TrueBlue]

Can I just check - does being against a bit of lazy bigotry makes me a lefty?

:thump:

You wally.

:p

Dont forget to send that £50 to the Spread Tonight

[C C Csiders]

You left out two of the greatest, Ted Dexter born in Milan & Colin Cowdrey born in Bangalore.

Yes, but both really bona fide 'Englishmen'. I imagine born wheer they were owing to the diplomatic/military service duties of their parents. I also believe Douglas Jardine was born in India. On that basis, I might have included Derek Pringle:eek: born in Kenya.

[canveyshrimper]

Yes, but both really bona fide 'Englishmen'. I imagine born wheer they were owing to the diplomatic/military service duties of their parents. I also believe Douglas Jardine was born in India. On that basis, I might have included Derek Pringle:eek: born in Kenya.

Indeed, my post was a bit tongue in cheek. Douglas Jardine would qualify on any list just for the way he detested Australians.

Oddly Derek Pringle's father, Donald captained the East Africa team in the 1975 World Cup in England. There's a useless piece of trivia.:D

[C C Csiders]

Indeed, my post was a bit tongue in cheek. Douglas Jardine would qualify on any list just for the way he detested Australians.

Oddly Derek Pringle's father, Donald captained the East Africa team in the 1975 World Cup in England. There's a useless piece of trivia.:D

I did forget Nasser Hussain born in Madras and Robin Smith (South Africa). I think these would replace Slack and Butcher in my line-up.

As for England Football, I can think of (fill in the gaps, if you can):

GK -
RB -
CD - Terry Butcher (Singapore)
CD -
LB - Tony Dorigo (Australia)
RM - John Salako (Nigeria)
CM - Owen Hargreaves (Canada)
CM - Colin Viljoen (South Africa)
LM - John Barnes (Jamaica)
For - Luther Blissett (Jamaica)
For - Cyrille Regis (French Guiana)

I think Craig Johnston (born in South Africa, but an Aussie) made a squad once but didn't play.

Manager - Graham Failure (Mars)

[canveyshrimper]

I did forget Nasser Hussain born in Madras and Robin Smith (South Africa). I think these would replace Slack and Butcher in my line-up.

As for England Football, I can think of (fill in the gaps, if you can):

GK -
RB -
CD - Terry Butcher (Singapore)
CD -
LB - Tony Dorigo (Australia)
RM - John Salako (Nigeria)
CM - Owen Hargreaves (Canada)
CM -
LM - John Barnes (Jamaica)
For - Luther Blissett (Jamaica)
For - Cyrille Regis (French Guiana)

I think Craig Johnston (born in South Africa, but an Aussie) made a squad once but didn't play.

Manager - Graham Failure (Mars)

Colin Viljoen - South Africa played for Ipswich
I have an idea that Viv Anderson was born in Jamaica

[C C Csiders]

Colin Viljoen - South Africa played for Ipswich
I have an idea that Viv Anderson was born in Jamaica

Viv Anderson was definitely English born. Did Viljoen get a game, I remember him being in a squad once?

EDIT: Just Wiki'd Viljoen, and yes two England caps - CM for him then.

[canveyshrimper]

Viv Anderson was definitely English born. Did Viljoen get a game, I remember him being in a squad once?

EDIT: Just Wiki'd Viljoen, and yes two England caps - CM for him then.

I'm surprised about Viv Anderson, was sure about Viljoen as that is trivia question that comes up a lot. Did Bert Trautmann play for England?

[C C Csiders]

I'm surprised about Viv Anderson, was sure about Viljoen as that is trivia question that comes up a lot. Did Bert Trautmann play for England?

No he didn't. I imagine feelings in post-war Britain would have been against that, however much he was revered.

[Davros]

you dont even have to be born abroad to have a riduclously foreign surname anyways!... trust me!

[C C Csiders]

you dont even have to be born abroad to have a riduclously foreign surname anyways!... trust me!

You don't need to tell me when you have walked around throughout my life with the surname, Pferdmitfahrerwurst

[number11]

I did forget Nasser Hussain born in Madras and Robin Smith (South Africa). I think these would replace Slack and Butcher in my line-up.

As for England Football, I can think of (fill in the gaps, if you can):

GK -
RB -
CD - Terry Butcher (Singapore)
CD -
LB - Tony Dorigo (Australia)
RM - John Salako (Nigeria)
CM - Owen Hargreaves (Canada)
CM - Colin Viljoen (South Africa)
LM - John Barnes (Jamaica)
For - Luther Blissett (Jamaica)
For - Cyrille Regis (French Guiana)

I think Craig Johnston (born in South Africa, but an Aussie) made a squad once but didn't play.

Manager - Graham Failure (Mars)


Wasnt Gary Bailey, former Man U keeper and 3rd choice for 86 world cup a Saffa?

[C C Csiders]

Wasnt Gary Bailey, former Man U keeper and 3rd choice for 86 world cup a Saffa?

Indeed he was - I wonder if he was born in this country though, as his dad played for Ip$hite? I'll Wiki him.

EDIT: Born in Ip$hite.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Dont forget to send that £50 to the Spread Tonight

I've got to send it to the club shop, haven't I...?

:confused:

[Matt the Shrimp]

I think bigotry's a bit harsh.
You're right, it was - sorry. Lazy stereotyping, then!

:p

[Cricko2]

I've got to send it to the club shop, haven't I...?

:confused:


I think he meant for you to buy us drinks Matt.:)

[seany t]

You're right, it was - sorry. Lazy stereotyping, then!

:p

Thats more like it!

I excel in that department...

[scrounger]

I see Bogdanovic and South beat Wassen and Chan (13th seeds) 6-4 6-3.
Doing extremely well so far! (This is the only aspect to get excited about at Wimbledon from a British point of view).

[BLUEBLOOD]

I see Bogdanovic and South beat Wassen and Chan (13th seeds) 6-4 6-3.
Doing extremely well so far! (This is the only aspect to get excited about at Wimbledon from a British point of view).

Is it the 1/4s they're through to now ??

[scrounger]

I believe so. Unfortunately their opponents and schedule of play has not been confirmed as of yet

[C C Csiders]

I had to laugh at the BBC Breakfast News this morning, During the sport bulletin, Sue Thearle the presenter said that during the rain interruptions at Wimbldon there had been much discussion about the state of British tennis. She then said, "however, there is one bright piece of news about the sport in this country." I thought she was going to talk about teh mixed doubles pairing. But no! The bright piece of news for British tennis is that we have a World #1 in Wheelchair tennis. Well thank F*** for that!!!

[Rayleigh Weir]

I had to laugh at the BBC Breakfast News this morning, During the sport bulletin, Sue Thearle the presenter said that during the rain interruptions at Wimbldon there had been much discussion about the state of British tennis. She then said, "however, there is one bright piece of news about the sport in this country." I thought she was going to talk about teh mixed doubles pairing. But no! The bright piece of news for British tennis is that we have a World #1 in Wheelchair tennis. Well thank F*** for that!!!

Blimey! Bet you need a big racket to get one of them over the net...

[scrounger]

Blimey! Bet you need a big racket to get one of them over the net...

There used to be someone in the top 10 (of Britain I believe) that played at Garons. His name escapes me now.

[Davros]

i seem Murrays brother, and his counterpart are also still in the mixed doubles

[scrounger]

Yea that's right, Murray and Jankovic (who is winning the Champions race this year - simply due to the amount of tournaments she has participated in) beat the number 3 seeds Knowles and Yan 7-6 6-7 6-3.

Another quality result by the underdogs.

[Mr. Benedict]

And very nice it was to see Murray and Jankovic win the mixed doubles too.

First british player to lift a trophy (from one of the 5 main events) at Wimbledon since 1987 and first Brit to win a main event in any grand slam since 1991 :eek:

[Uncle Leo]

And very nice it was to see Murray and Jankovic win the mixed doubles too.

First british player to lift a trophy (from one of the 5 main events) at Wimbledon since 1987 and first Brit to win a main event in any grand slam since 1991 :eek:

There's rumours that those two are at it. What do people reckon?

Oh and well done to them too. For the tennis that is. Not the (alleged) humping.

[Davros]

i'd heard that too... even Inverdale was having a dig about it

[Mr. Benedict]

Wouldn't surprise me if they were... Jankovic was being very coy around him.
She denied any 'involvement' away from the tennis court in midweek when asked but according to the commentators yesterday she offered to 'kiss Murray all over' if they won the competition!

[Peter Pan]

the mixed finals match didnt seem to be taken seriously, she was serving with a smile on her face , listening to everything the crowd were shouting and responding, it was pretty surreal, i have come to expect pure professionalism, it was nice to see, but i couldn't believe it was a wimbledon final. even jonas and his partner seemed to be over the moon at having just lost, normally people are gutted.

[The General]

I think that if people saw the way they were with each other, you would be able to work it out ...

[Matt the Shrimp]

I think that if people saw the way they were with each other, you would be able to work it out ...

i.e. he's bashing her back doors in...?!

:finger:

[Stats]

Lawn Tennis is nothing compared to Real Tennis eh MTS

[Matt the Shrimp]

I think that if people saw the way they were with each other, you would be able to work it out ...

You may have a point...

http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_15_murray_004_getty_c_brunskill.jpg

[Cricko2]

:eek: :eek: Must be her stunning beauty that attracted him.

[londonblue]

Wouldn't surprise me if they were... Jankovic was being very coy around him.
She denied any 'involvement' away from the tennis court

So is she saying they're going alfresco, so to speak?

:D

[Mr. Benedict]

:eek: :eek: Must be her stunning beauty that attracted him.

Indeed. Not exactly a looker - I suppose she has that in common with most female tennis players :p

[SUFC_Al]

do people still watch Tennis? :eek: :p

[Mr. Benedict]

do people still watch Tennis? :eek: :p

Only during Wimbledon - I'm sure the British public are largely oblivious to the sport at all other times!

[lordlumpington]

Indeed. Not exactly a looker - I suppose she has that in common with most female tennis players :p

Looks like Billy Paynter :D

[Peter Pan]

http://sports.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/Maria_Sharapova.jpg

On another note, I think Maria is a superb tennis player.