Titles, promotions and relegations

[* ORM *]

For a bit of fun - I want to look back at the end of the season and see how close I am to being correct. (Top 3/Bottom 3 only)

TOP 3 BOTTOM 3

Premiership

Chelsea Portsmouth
Arsenal Norwich
Newcastle Crystal Palace

Championship

Leicester City Rotherham
Reading Stoke
Sunderland Gillingham

Div 1

Huddersfield Torquay
Bournemouth Colchester U
Luton Town Chesterfield

Div 2

Northampton Rushden
Yeovil Macclesfield
Oxford Rochdale

[Technician]

Bottom three from league 1 should be four.

Bottom three from league 2 should be two.

Unless the rules have changed according to ORM? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

ChelSKI for champions, yer 'avin' a laff! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Pleased you put the TOON at No.3 though! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[steveh1510]

A bottom 3 should always consist of 3, irrespective of how many are relegated.

[Javea Shrimper]

The votes from the Spanish jury are :

FA Premiership

Arsenal * * * * * * * * *
Manchester United * *
Chelsea *
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West Bromwich Albion
Portsmouth
Crystal Palace

League Championship

Sunderland * * * * * * *
Ipswich Town * * * * *
Leeds United * * * * *
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Brighton & Hove Albion
Crewe Alexandra
Gillingham

Coca-Cola League One

Bristol City * * * * * * *
Swindon Town
Barnsley
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Chesterfield
Brentford
Torquay United

Coca-Cola League Two

Northampton Town
Oxford United
Mansfield Town
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Kidderminster Harriers
Rochdale
Chesterfield

WS

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ Aug. 02 2004,15:26)]Bottom three from league 1 should be four.

Bottom three from league 2 should be two.

Unless the rules have changed according to ORM? *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

ChelSKI for champions, yer 'avin' a laff! * http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Pleased you put the TOON at No.3 though! *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Did I mention that this was anything to do with promotion and relegation ? No I didn't think so ! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I would hate to see Chelsea win the title but I've based it on the fact that Man Utd are going to have a shocker by their standards and Arsenal must fail to live up to the high standards they set last year.


BTW - not a bad stab at it Mike. Except that I think Brentford are going to be a surprise package this year.

[* ORM *]

Mike, just noticed you have Chesterfield to be relegated from two divisions. Is there another financial irregularity bubbling under the surface resulting in expulsion or have you been at the Sangria http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Technician]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Aug. 03 2004,08:49)]Mike, just noticed you have Chesterfield to be relegated from two divisions. Is there another financial irregularity bubbling under the surface resulting in expulsion or have you been at the Sangria *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I think he just recognises there are in fact fields in Chester!

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[Hong Kong Blue]

Thats boring - you've got to predict the entire table

Northampton
Oxford
Chester
Bristol Rovers
Yeovil
Boston
Lincoln
Grimsby
Mansfield
Cheltenham
Cambridge
Notts Co
Swansea
Southend
Wycombe
Orient
Shrewsbury
Sc**thorpe
Rushden
Bury
Kidderminster
Darlington
Rochdale
Macclesfield

[Matt the Shrimp]

1. *Boston United
2. *Northampton Town
3. *Mansfield Town
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4. *Oxford United
5. *Lincoln City
6. *SOUTHEND UNITED
7. *Grimsby Town
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8. *Notts County
9. *Yeovil Town
10. Bristol Rovers
11. Chester City
12. Shrewsbury Town
13. Macclesfield Town
14. Cheltenham Town
15. Swansea City
16. Cambridge United
17. Leyton Orient
18. Kidderminster Harriers
19. Wycombe Wanderers
20. Rushden & Diamonds
21. Scúnthorpe United
22. Darlington Town
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23. Bury
24. Rochdale

As for the other leagues:

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* * * Top 3 * * * * *¦ * * * Bottom 3
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Premiership

Arsenal * * * * * * * * * * Norwich City
Chelsea * * * * * * * * * *West Bromwich Albion
Liverpool * * * * * * * * * Crystal Palace

Championship

West Ham * * * * * * * * Rotherham
Leicester City * * * * * * Burnley
Ipswich Town * * * * * *Gillingham

Division 1

Bristol City * * * * * * * Colchester United
Swindon Town * * * * *Chesterfield
Hartlepool United * * * MK Dons

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 03 2004,14:23)]1. *Boston United
MtS,

Surely you are joking.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Aug. 03 2004,15:39)]
Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 03 2004,14:23)]1. *Boston United
MtS,

Surely you are joking.
Not entirely. I don't want to tip Northampton because (a) it's dull; and (b) the ante-post favourites rarely win it (e.g. Hull City, ante-post favourites for the last 2 or 3 years).

After all, if I'd tipped Donny Rovers last season, you'd have probably called me a loon...

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I don't see why Boston can't do it. Gazza could be an inspirational signing; they've got some (?) forward(s?) from Scotland (although one buggered off again, didn't he?) and in Steve Evans they have their equivalent of David Webb - a man under whom they totally walked to the Conference title; and a man under whom, last season, they lifted from the bottom 4 into the top half of the table.

If we're dark horses this season, Boston are black Derby-winners... I expect them to make the top 3, in all honesty.

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Matt

[shrimpboy]

Premiership:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Manchester United

18. Spurs
19. Norwich
20. Crystal Palace

Don't know anything about Championship or League 1.

League Two:

1. Yeovil
2. Oxford
3. Northampton
4. Lincoln
5. Mansfield
6. Notts County
7. Swansea

23. Rochdale
24. Darlo

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 03 2004,16:08)]
Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Aug. 03 2004,15:39)]
Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 03 2004,14:23)]1. *Boston United
MtS,

Surely you are joking.
Not entirely. *I don't want to tip Northampton because (a) it's dull; and (b) the ante-post favourites rarely win it (e.g. Hull City, ante-post favourites for the last 2 or 3 years).

After all, if I'd tipped Donny Rovers last season, you'd have probably called me a loon...

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I don't see why Boston can't do it. *Gazza could be an inspirational signing; they've got some (?) forward(s?) from Scotland (although one buggered off again, didn't he?) and in Steve Evans they have their equivalent of David Webb - a man under whom they totally walked to the Conference title; and a man under whom, last season, they lifted from the bottom 4 into the top half of the table.

If we're dark horses this season, Boston are black Derby-winners... *I expect them to make the top 3, in all honesty.

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Matt
Don't normally disagreee with anything you write Matt, and you're right I would have said the same last year if you had tipped Donny, but I just think the whole Gazza thing could explode rather nastily, and the fall-out will severely dent any prospects they have. Agree about it being boring to back Northampton, but I would have to fancy Oxford as outsiders, 14-1 with a striking duo of Lee Bradbury and Tommy Mooney is pretty good odds, also think Chester will do well with Michael Branch up front. Not sure about Mansfield as I think they've lost their better players, hope you're right about us though http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Aug. 04 2004,08:55)]Don't normally disagreee with anything you write Matt, and you're right I would have said the same last year if you had tipped Donny, but I just think the whole Gazza thing could explode rather nastily, and the fall-out will severely dent any prospects they have. Agree about it being boring to back Northampton, but I would have to fancy Oxford as outsiders, 14-1 with a striking duo of Lee Bradbury and Tommy Mooney is pretty good odds, also think Chester will do well with Michael Branch up front. Not sure about Mansfield as I think they've lost their better players, hope you're right about us though *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Fair enough. I think all of what you say is entirely fair and reasonable. I just don't agree that's all... I'm going to stick with Boston... because of Steve Evans. He's their magician.

Oxford: Rix - overrated; despite Mooney & Bradbury, I'm just not sure they'll gel as a team.

Chester: big financial problems. Clare may be going to Boston (of all clubs), and that will detract from their on-the-field activities.

Mansfield: you may be right. Still rate Bobby Hassell, though - best Left Back in the division (after Nicolau, obviously!).

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Nah, gonna stick my neck out, and stick with Boston.

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Matt

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 04 2004,12:26)]Nah, gonna stick my neck out, and stick with Boston.

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Matt
Fair enough, I'll stick with Oxford.

Pint on it ?
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[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Aug. 04 2004,13:12)]
Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 04 2004,12:26)]Nah, gonna stick my neck out, and stick with Boston.

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Matt
Fair enough, I'll stick with Oxford.

Pint on it ?
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Yeah, why not?!

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And if Southend win, we can buy each other a beer. *Or ten.

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[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 04 2004,15:29)]
Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Aug. 04 2004,13:12)]
Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 04 2004,12:26)]Nah, gonna stick my neck out, and stick with Boston.

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Matt
Fair enough, I'll stick with Oxford.

Pint on it ?
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Yeah, why not?!

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And if Southend win, we can buy each other a beer. *Or ten.

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Sounds good to me.

[Kim Mitten]

Prem:

1 Chelsea
2 Arsenal
3 Man Utd

18 West Brom
19 Everton
20 Crystal Palce

Championship:

1 Leicester
2 West Ham
p/off winner: Wolves

22 Crewe
23 Rotherham
24 Gillingham

League One:

1 Swindon
2 Walsall
p/off Bristol City

21 Bradford
22 Col Ewe
23 Torquay
24 Milton Keynes Franchise

League Two:

1 Northampton
2 Yeovil
3 Bristol Rovers
p/off Lincoln

23 Macclesfield
24 Bury

[Kim Mitten]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 03 2004,16:08)]- a man under whom they totally walked to the Conference title;
Would have to disagree with that.
Dagenham threw it away, then Boston had a very good run in and just knicked it, got lucky with their off the field indiscretions and were allowed to take part in the league.

He may be a good coach but his other activities could have had a much much worse affect on Boston, instead it was 4 points deducted and him banned for 18 months.

[The General]

Im with Matt on the Boston thing ...

I'll do the rest tomorrow.

Kev

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Kim Mitten @ Aug. 04 2004,21:50)]Championship:

p/off winner: Wolves

p/off Bristol City

21 Bradford
22 Col Ewe
23 Torquay
24 Milton Keynes Franchise

League Two:

1 Northampton
2 Yeovil
3 Bristol Rovers
p/off Lincoln

23 Macclesfield
24 Bury
If I get enough of these before the end of August I'll keep and independent record and post standings on here periodically unless there are any objections.

Just to be clear I'm going for Top 3 & bottom 3 in each Division irrespective of promotion and relegation issues.

D'ya wanna tweak it slightly KM (and anyone else) ? .

[Kim Mitten]

Ok ORM.

Championship:

1 Leicester
2 West Ham
3 Wolves

22 Crewe
23 Rotherham
24 Gillingham

League One:

1 Swindon
2 Walsall
3 Bristol City

22 Bradford
23 Torquay
24 Milton Keynes Franchise

League Two:

1 Northampton
2 Yeovil
3 Bristol Rovers

22 Darlington
23 Macclesfield
24 Bury

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ Aug. 03 2004,09:14)]
Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Aug. 03 2004,08:49)]Mike, just noticed you have Chesterfield to be relegated from two divisions. Is there another financial irregularity bubbling under the surface resulting in expulsion or have you been at the Sangria *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I think he just recognises there are in fact fields in Chester!

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Nah, I'm gonna have to accept Chesterfield as Mike's entry for Div 2. I can't take amendments by proxy. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Look at the example of KM. She wanted to play, misread the rules and then re-applied accordingly. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[* ORM *]

Pedantic as well as controversial http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Technician]

Right then, let's have a crack at this... *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Championship:
01. Sunderland AFC
02. Sheffield United
03. Leicester City
22. Crewe Alexandra
23. Rotherham United
24. Stoke City

League One:
01. Bradford City
02. Bristol City
03. Hull City
22. Torquay United
23. Chesterfield
24. M.K.Dons

League Two:
01. Notts. County
02. Swansea City
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07. The Mighty Blues
22. Bury
23. Macclesfield
24. Kidderminster

Mickey Mouse League
01. Arsenal
02. Man. United
03. Chelski
18. Blackburn Rovers
19. Crystal Palace
20. West Brom

I hope Chesterfield are still in League One... *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Is there a prize?

Hope there's not a tie... I hate sharing! *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Southend Shrimp]

Premiersh*te

1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal

18.Crystal Palace
19.Tottenham
20.Norwich

The Championship

1. Sunderland
2. Leicester
3. Wolves

22.Brighton
23.Rotherham
24.Crewe

League 1

1. Walsall
2. Bristol City
3. Hartlepool

22.Colchester
23.Peterborough
24.Chesterfield

League 2

1. Chester
2. Oxford
3. Boston

22.Leyton Orient
23.Sc**thorpe
24.Rochdale

[Mr Wooly]

Here goes;

Premier$hip

Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool

Everton
West Brom
Palace

Championship

Wolves
Leicester
Wigan

Watford
Rotherham
Brighton

League 1

Sheffield Wednesday
Bristol City
Walsall

Port Vale
Torquay
Chesterfield

League 2

Yeovil
Chester
Southend

Orient
Darlo
Kidderminster H

[steveh1510]

Div 1

Chelsea
Liverpool
Newcastle

Man City
Everton
Crystal Palace

Div 2

Leeds
West Ham
Sheffield United

Gillingham
Crewe
Rotherham

Div 3

Bristol City
Swindon
MK Dons

Tranmere
Oldham
Stockport

Div 4

Yeovil
Wycombe
Northampton

Rochdale
Kidderminster
Macclesfield

[BluePartridge]

Div 1

Chelsea
Liverpool
Norwich City/Man City

Norwich City/ Man City
Portsmouth
Everton

Div 2
Leeds United
QPR
Wolverhampton Wanderers

Plymouth
Gillingham
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Div 3
Swindon
Hartlepool
Huddersfield

Doncaster
Stockport
Col Ewe

Div 4
Notts County
Boston
Brizzle Rovers

(Southend in and around Play-Offs)

Rochdale
Orient
Chester

Div 5
Hereford
Aldershot
Carlisle

Canvey
Accrington
Scarborough (It bleeds it hurts still)

[* ORM *]

Wahaaaaaaaay = That's the idea - keep them coming until the end of August then I'll close it out and put everything on a spreadsheet. Will be a cinch to provide ongoing updates after that.

The prizes are as follows:

Winner - A day's football training with Napster


Runner up - Two days football training with Napster

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[Technician]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Aug. 06 2004,14:19)]Winner - A day's football training with Napster


Runner up - Two days football training with Napster

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I guess the wooden spoon is the top prize, but you're keeping that to yourself then ORM... you tight fisted old...

















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[* ORM *]

Still taking preddys 'til month end.

[The General]

Here goes as i never did mine.

Div 1

Arsenal
Chelsea
Manc Utd

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Southampton
Norwich
Palace

Div 2

Leicester
Wet Spam
Sheff Utd

--

Gillingham
Burnley
Rotherham

Div 3

Warsaw
Swindon
Sheff Wed

--

Peterborough
Brentford
Torquay

Div 4

Northampton
Oxford
Yeovil

(Boston, Wycombe, Bristol and Notts County)

Kiddy
Chester
Rochdale

[rabbloke]

All this talk of teams and tables. There is only one that matters and that is Southend finishing third. This season no less. If we are not promoted I will run around the Roots Hall pitch naked before the first home game of next season. As I am four stone overweight and my member will never be accused of causing penis envy, I feel I must be showing a great deal of faith in our players. Or maybe I want to flash the wrinkly bits. Who knows, I may get a bigger cheer than the team? Although I suspect it will enable me to emulate the prowess of Blues in that I would not perform well enough to score. Hey Ho! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Technician]

Quote[/b] (rabbloke @ Aug. 19 2004,02:34)]All this talk of teams and tables. There is only one that matters and that is Southend finishing third. This season no less. If we are not promoted I will run around the Roots Hall pitch naked before the first home game of next season. As I am four stone overweight and my member will never be accused of causing penis envy, I feel I must be showing a great deal of faith in our players. Or maybe I want to flash the wrinkly bits. Who knows, I may get a bigger cheer than the team? Although I suspect it will enable me to emulate the prowess of Blues in that I would not perform well enough to score. Hey Ho! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I wonder if the bookies have got wind of this...

We'll be looking at pretty short odds for you to perform at Roots Hall on the opening day of next season I suspect.

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[Napster]

Quote[/b] (rabbloke @ Aug. 19 2004,01:34)]If we are not promoted I will run around the Roots Hall pitch naked before the first home game of next season.
a close escape

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