Important announcement about SZ posting etiquette

[shrimpadmin]

Following a build up of complaints over the last couple of months from Zone users, the owners of the board wish to publish a clear policy with regard to posting etiquette on ShrimperZone which focuses on the needs of the majority, and encourages input from the widest spectrum of users.

ShrimperZone has been (and hopefully always will be) a fan’s forum. Part of the board’s appeal is that it facilitates discussion about the mighty Shrimpers and just about every other subject under the sun - in a structured and easily accessible way. When you want to say something, it’s pretty clear where you go to say it – and if you want to find what other people think about something, then it’s pretty clear where you go to look for it. What we do not wish to see, however, is ShrimperZone become an internet chat room where people simply congregate to pass the time of day with their mates.

One fundamental rule of this site has always been to post according to the topic in question as designated by the thread title, and to keep the discussion around the main points of the thread. While certain threads may well go off-topic due to their nature (such as the “Live Chat” thread, and SZ Beer Club, End of Season Party and other "social" threads), it is important to ensure that this is the exception rather than the rule.

Up until recently, the board has been able to police itself on these matters but of late it has become a problem. Over a number of weeks, individuals on the board have raised concerns directly with the board’s owners and moderators, and this in turn has led us to take action in some cases.

To preserve the nature of the board, we need everyone posting to show the required levels of restraint and sensibility. Before posting, simply ask yourself:


“Am I adding something of value to this thread?"


"Is it relevant to all users of the board rather than a select few?”

Also consider whether it is really necessary to post on every thread, and after every reply just because a friend of yours has said something.

A short while ago, as something of a compromise, the board owners set-up the “Live Chat” thread to allow posters to chat about everything and anything, in an unstructured manner, and with no constraints on topic. While the “live chat” thread has proved popular, if the relaxed rules on that particular thread lead to a decline in standards on the rest of the board, then, at the owners’ discretion and without further warning, the thread will be permanently deleted.

To ensure that the board policy is maintained:

Where threads are taken off-topic, we will endeavour to post a reminder to keep the thread on-topic, although ANY Zoner can make the point to keep threads on track. We even have some lovely new icons for doing so.

:offtopic: :hijack:
Where reminders are ignored, posts will be deleted without further warning.
Where the same posters consistently take threads off-topic, no reminder will be given, and posts will be deleted without warning.
Where the same posters consistently fall foul of the rules, the mods will discuss banning them from the site in accordance with our existing banning procedure.In short, diverting threads (and taking threads off-topic for banter with your mates) is not fun. From what more and more people are telling us, it spoils the Zone experience for the majority of users.

Thank you for your continuing support.

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Hooray !

Also can we have life bans (and genetalia removed) for anyone who starts this punning rubbish. It really gets my goat !

[J]

i think the weathers pretty good ya know.

[Interpol Shrimper]

Hooray !

Also can we have life bans (and genetalia removed) for anyone who starts this punning rubbish. It really gets my goat !

Punning may annoy you, dodgy spelling sometimes does the same for me!
Also, remember at least 2 of the mods also like to partake in said punning.

Surely this whole thing is going a little bit over the top, we're all here for enjoyment (or at certain points to vent anger/frustration) after all?

I can understand it in the main SUFC board, but one of the whole principles of message boards is the debate & discussion that this encourages. For example take the Shannon Matthews thread, we've started off with a news story about latest developments in the story and this has now evolved in a technical discussion on how incriminating evidence can be discovered on PCs. A simple example but again shows how conversations develop. One of the joys of this board is seeing the directions threads go in, there have been some classics over the years.

As far as I'm concerned there seems to be other issues ongoing right now which need more attention rather than simple thread diversion!

Also people, why not adopt the if you don't like what's being posted in certain threads then don't read it/slate those who are participating? I got pretty bored, pretty quickly with the "Fun for a Sunday afternoon/Guess the SUFC player pic thread" so haven't bothered with it!

In now way is this a moan or a gripe at an admin post intended to warn people of the consequences, as I said above I just feel there might be other areas which need more urgent attention!

[Uncle Leo]

In now way is this a moan or a gripe at an admin post intended to warn people of the consequences, as I said above I just feel there might be other areas which need more urgent attention!

Such as Rich? PM us if you have an issue, we want to do all we can to make the site as good as it can be.

[chadded]

Dragging up posts from 3 years ago?

[South Bank Hank]

Hi mate,

Hopefully you don't mind me responding to some of those comments individually.


Surely this whole thing is going a little bit over the top, we're all here for enjoyment (or at certain points to vent anger/frustration) after all?

True that we're all here to enjoy ourselves, but since we've received a number of complaints and discussed people's concerns with a number of posters, we do not believe the rules to be over the top. Some posters we've discussed this with have advised that they now no longer go into the Pub section because of the way things are going, and that's absolutely the last thing we need to hear.

If you look at them, the rules aren't exactly draconian?


I can understand it in the main SUFC board, but one of the whole principles of message boards is the debate & discussion that this encourages. For example take the Shannon Matthews thread, we've started off with a news story about latest developments in the story and this has now evolved in a technical discussion on how incriminating evidence can be discovered on PCs. A simple example but again shows how conversations develop. One of the joys of this board is seeing the directions threads go in, there have been some classics over the years.

No one has any problems with that sort of stuff. The example you quote is a fine example of where a shift in focus can be interesting and worthwhile. The topic is also still broadly on track. There are plenty of other examples though where the topic-shift is unacceptable and amusing only to a small group of individuals.


As far as I'm concerned there seems to be other issues ongoing right now which need more attention rather than simple thread diversion!

There may well be, but Mods have lives (honest, it's true!). The post above was a collective post from the owners of SZ, but it's a unanimous view prompted by complaints received.

If there are other things going on, please PM either Cricko, Matt the Shrimp, Uxbridge Shrimper, McNasty or myself and we'd be glad to look into the issues.


Also people, why not adopt the if you don't like what's being posted in certain threads then don't read it/slate those who are participating? I got pretty bored, pretty quickly with the "Fun for a Sunday afternoon/Guess the SUFC player pic thread" so haven't bothered with it!

It's not about that here. At least the 'Guess the SUFC player pic thread' is still a thread about guessing sufc players, not a debate on the finer points of international submarine warfare.


In now way is this a moan or a gripe at an admin post intended to warn people of the consequences, as I said above I just feel there might be other areas which need more urgent attention!

Please see comments above, and PM any of us if there are particular issues of concern. I see James has made the same offer, but any of the Mods would be keen to hear any specifics.

[* ORM *]

Has Ken Livingstone become an SZ joint owner :p

[Interpol Shrimper]

If there are other things going on, please PM either Cricko, Matt the Shrimp, Uxbridge Shrimper, McNasty or myself and we'd be glad to look into the issues.

PM sent to you all!

[Matt the Shrimp]

Has Ken Livingstone become an SZ joint owner :p

Not yet. But he speaks highly of you, Tone.

:finger:

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Punning may annoy you, dodgy spelling sometimes does the same for me!
Also, remember at least 2 of the mods also like to partake in said punning.


It's not so much the punning, rather that it immediately goes away from the thread. And then when you click into said thread it's a tad annoying to find it diverted into a pun-fest. (Hurriedly checks his spelling before hitting enter) :)

[MissWestStand]

Am I going to get a reminder every time I thread divert about a certain goalie?

[NZamba Legend]

And then when you click into said thread it's a tad annoying to find it diverted into a pun-fest. :)

But surely you can see the punny side?

[Matt the Shrimp]

But surely you can see the punny side?

At which point we say...

:hijack:

Back on topic please, folks.

Matt

[Napster]

Has Ken Livingstone become an SZ joint owner :p

:hijack:

this is good

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Following a build up of complaints over the last couple of months from Zone users, the owners of the board wish to publish a clear policy with regard to posting etiquette on ShrimperZone which focuses on the needs of the majority, and encourages input from the widest spectrum of users.

ShrimperZone has been (and hopefully always will be) a fan’s forum. Part of the board’s appeal is that it facilitates discussion about the mighty Shrimpers and just about every other subject under the sun - in a structured and easily accessible way. When you want to say something, it’s pretty clear where you go to say it – and if you want to find what other people think about something, then it’s pretty clear where you go to look for it. What we do not wish to see, however, is ShrimperZone become an internet chat room where people simply congregate to pass the time of day with their mates.

One fundamental rule of this site has always been to post according to the topic in question as designated by the thread title, and to keep the discussion around the main points of the thread. While certain threads may well go off-topic due to their nature (such as the “Live Chat” thread, and SZ Beer Club, End of Season Party and other "social" threads), it is important to ensure that this is the exception rather than the rule.

Up until recently, the board has been able to police itself on these matters but of late it has become a problem. Over a number of weeks, individuals on the board have raised concerns directly with the board’s owners and moderators, and this in turn has led us to take action in some cases.

To preserve the nature of the board, we need everyone posting to show the required levels of restraint and sensibility. Before posting, simply ask yourself:


“Am I adding something of value to this thread?"


"Is it relevant to all users of the board rather than a select few?”

Also consider whether it is really necessary to post on every thread, and after every reply just because a friend of yours has said something.

A short while ago, as something of a compromise, the board owners set-up the “Live Chat” thread to allow posters to chat about everything and anything, in an unstructured manner, and with no constraints on topic. While the “live chat” thread has proved popular, if the relaxed rules on that particular thread lead to a decline in standards on the rest of the board, then, at the owners’ discretion and without further warning, the thread will be permanently deleted.

To ensure that the board policy is maintained:

Where threads are taken off-topic, we will endeavour to post a reminder to keep the thread on-topic, although ANY Zoner can make the point to keep threads on track. We even have some lovely new icons for doing so.

:offtopic: :hijack:
Where reminders are ignored, posts will be deleted without further warning.
Where the same posters consistently take threads off-topic, no reminder will be given, and posts will be deleted without warning.
Where the same posters consistently fall foul of the rules, the mods will discuss banning them from the site in accordance with our existing banning procedure.In short, diverting threads (and taking threads off-topic for banter with your mates) is not fun. From what more and more people are telling us, it spoils the Zone experience for the majority of users.

Thank you for your continuing support.

As per your above request, If is se ANY example of banter between friends on a thread that is not directly relevant to the thread or any attempt of the thread being diverted then i will be sending all mods a complaint via PM every single time as i feel that would be my duty as a fellow Zoner, we can not expect you to be able to watch over every post can we!!!!

Can i also suggest that if ANY one else sees the slightest bit of banter between friend that is not relevant to the thread it is on then they also PM the mods and complain.

One other suggestion is that....if not already done, you should change Paul's Avatar name....not really the message you are trying to send now is it??

Ow deep joy and what fun this board has now become.

Onwards and upwards so they say

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Am I going to get a reminder every time I thread divert about a certain goalie?

YES.....Please stay on the subject!!!!!!!

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Punning may annoy you, dodgy spelling sometimes does the same for me!
Also, remember at least 2 of the mods also like to partake in said punning.

Surely this whole thing is going a little bit over the top, we're all here for enjoyment (or at certain points to vent anger/frustration) after all?

I can understand it in the main SUFC board, but one of the whole principles of message boards is the debate & discussion that this encourages. For example take the Shannon Matthews thread, we've started off with a news story about latest developments in the story and this has now evolved in a technical discussion on how incriminating evidence can be discovered on PCs. A simple example but again shows how conversations develop. One of the joys of this board is seeing the directions threads go in, there have been some classics over the years.

As far as I'm concerned there seems to be other issues ongoing right now which need more attention rather than simple thread diversion!

Also people, why not adopt the if you don't like what's being posted in certain threads then don't read it/slate those who are participating? I got pretty bored, pretty quickly with the "Fun for a Sunday afternoon/Guess the SUFC player pic thread" so haven't bothered with it!

In now way is this a moan or a gripe at an admin post intended to warn people of the consequences, as I said above I just feel there might be other areas which need more urgent attention!

Rich.....

But that is were you are wrong mate......when you are in a REAL "PUB" you never ever stray of the subject do you!!!!

I mean if you did the landlord would ban you from the pub....right????

[Bluetonic]

I'm actually with Aberdeen on this. If someone is being an **** - like me 95% of the time, then yeah - by all means sort things out, but lighthearted banter is all good in my eyes - as long as it's entertaining, although as drummed into me by everyone on here, that's subjective blah blah.

I just don't see where the entertainment is going to come from, is every thread is going to be 'anyone like gardening?', or 'PC problem...'

All this being said, I don't really care as my download of REO Speedwagons greatest hits has just been completed.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Not yet. But he speaks highly of you, Tone.

:finger:


Excuse me.....is this not exactly the off subject banter that you are saying should be avoided.....

Don’t tell me, it is ok it is a mod.....ow no sorry in your opinion it is ok....

Silly me, what was i thinking

[loz]

All this being said, I don't really care as my download of REO Speedwagons greatest hits has just been completed.

you take it on the pun, baby, cos that's the way you want it baby..

this may appear off-topic, but was actually a highly-charged political statement. I mean, who would want to stem the tide of that level of comedy gold?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I'm actually with Aberdeen on this. If someone is being an **** - like me 95% of the time, then yeah - by all means sort things out, but lighthearted banter is all good in my eyes - as long as it's entertaining, although as drummed into me by everyone on here, that's subjective blah blah.

I just don't see where the entertainment is going to come from, is every thread is going to be 'anyone like gardening?', or 'PC problem...'

All this being said, I don't really care as my download of REO Speedwagons greatest hits has just been completed.

100% agree BT.....this forum will become sanitised and boring if no one is allowed to have banter with there friends that is slightly of topic with risking a Ban

PC gone ferking wrong, Again you are pandering to the whims of the Old Etonian Clique that unfortunately resides on this board....

And albeit in 2003 it was there forum, a concept that they should start warming up to is that due to its own success it is now the Peoples forum and not the few that seem to have all the influence.

[Napster]

Old Etonians? Hahahaha.

[South Bank Hank]

100% agree BT.....this forum will become sanitised and boring if no one is allowed to have banter with there friends that is slightly of topic with risking a Ban

PC gone ferking wrong, Again you are pandering to the whims of the Old Etonian Clique that unfortunately resides on this board....

And albeit in 2003 it was there forum, a concept that they should start warming up to is that due to its own success it is now the Peoples forum and not the few that seem to have all the influence.

All we're calling for AS is some BALANCE, once again, in response to complaints we've received from numerous posters.

In other words, it's the People who have spoken.

[mcnasty]

If we had no rules where would we be ?

[Interpol Shrimper]

All we're calling for AS is some BALANCE, once again, in response to complaints we've received from numerous posters.

In other words, it's the People who have spoken.

He's got a point there AS!
In fact, Dave if the whole situation isn't to your liking, why not do as I did & PM the guys, let them know what your concerns are and discuss them at length?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

All we're calling for AS is some BALANCE, once again, in response to complaints we've received from numerous posters.

In other words, it's the People who have spoken.

But if i feel that a thread is going off subject or there is banater between friends that is not relevant to the subjecy, i am with in my rights to bring it to a MODS attention???

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

If we had no rules where would we be ?

France??????

Is this of Subject???

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

He's got a point there AS!
In fact, Dave if the whole situation isn't to your liking, why not do as I did & PM the guys, let them know what your concerns are and discuss them at length?


Very good idea Rich....Thank you for that Feedback

;)

[mcnasty]

But if i feel that a thread is going off subject or there is banater between friends that is not relevant to the subjecy, i am with in my rights to bring it to a MODS attention???

You could always use the :offtopic: smilie. :)

[Matt the Shrimp]

As per your above request, If is se ANY example of banter between friends on a thread that is not directly relevant to the thread or any attempt of the thread being diverted then i will be sending all mods a complaint via PM every single time as i feel that would be my duty as a fellow Zoner, we can not expect you to be able to watch over every post can we!!!!

Can i also suggest that if ANY one else sees the slightest bit of banter between friend that is not relevant to the thread it is on then they also PM the mods and complain.

I'm so glad I give my free time and money up for this site, really I am.

Matt

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

You could always use the :offtopic: smilie. :)

But with Mods having a life and not always being able to police every post is it not right to bring a persistent offender to there attention??

at 11:25 on this thread Matt the Shrimp replied to a post that was IMO Banter unrelated to this thread.....was anything done about it???

[number11]

Excuse me.....is this not exactly the off subject banter that you are saying should be avoided.....

Don’t tell me, it is ok it is a mod.....ow no sorry in your opinion it is ok....

Silly me, what was i thinking

I dont post much on here (More of a lurker!), so am more than open to the criticism that 'if you dont like the way things have gone, post something interesting', but stepping back from the situation surely you can see where the mods are coming from in this announcement.

Loads of threads were taken over by inane 'in-joking', slightly nausiating / embarrassing 'flirting', and such like between a few posters, that could be carried out via a group email / pm or the 'Live Chat Room'. As I said, I dont post much, and Im sure what I do post is not overly interesting, but I am aware of posters who used to post dont bother anymore because of the above, and that is surely a shame?

Occassional one liners can be great but I think the issue is where this then turns into pages of in jokes which leaves a load of threads dead other that the small group posting on it.

I dont know who complained, but Im sure there were complaints which have prompted the mods to act on it, and Im sure you would rather not have ****ed off / isolated a group of posters on here. As above, surely you can understand their view point, if not agree with it?

[Uncle Leo]

100% agree BT.....this forum will become sanitised and boring if no one is allowed to have banter with there friends that is slightly of topic with risking a Ban

PC gone ferking wrong, Again you are pandering to the whims of the Old Etonian Clique that unfortunately resides on this board....

And albeit in 2003 it was there forum, a concept that they should start warming up to is that due to its own success it is now the Peoples forum and not the few that seem to have all the influence.

Old Etonians? Nope, International School at Sotogrande and Bayside Comprehensive for me. Don't think any of the others went to Slough Grammar either.

Anyway, it's precisely the excessive 'banter with friends' that makes the forum boring for many people, which is why we'll try to gently steer things back on topic when necessary.

I'm also totally lost as to what being 'PC' has to do with it.

[steveo]

complaints we've received from numerous posters.


Could you make a thread for these and posat them all? Might be quite entertaining.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I'm so glad I give my free time and money up for this site, really I am.

Matt

Lets get one thing straight.....I take my hat off to you and all the other people that put in so much time and effort to run this forum.

But myself and many other Zoners that i have spoke to me are worried that the Its our Forum mentality will destroy this zone

[South Bank Hank]

Lets get one thing straight.....I take my hat off to you and all the other people that put in so much time and effort to run this forum.

But myself and many other Zoners that i have spoke to me are worried that the Its our Forum mentality will destroy this zone

It's a forum.
It has rules.
Users have complained.
We've taken steps.

Seriously Dave, I think we've been pretty clear about the rules and the reasons. If you have any further issues, please PM them to either myself, Cricko, Uxbridge Shrimper, Mcnasty or Matt the Shrimp.

[mcnasty]

Lets get one thing straight.....I take my hat off to you and all the other people that put in so much time and effort to run this forum.

But myself and many other Zoners that i have spoke to me are worried that the Its our Forum mentality will destroy this zone

Let's get another thing straight ........... it is our forum to run as we please. If that attitude destroys your pleasure then sorry.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Old Etonians? Nope, International School at Sotogrande and Bayside Comprehensive for me. Don't think any of the others went to Slough Grammar either.

Anyway, it's precisely the excessive 'banter with friends' that makes the forum boring for many people, which is why we'll try to gently steer things back on topic when necessary.

I'm also totally lost as to what being 'PC' has to do with it.

Well lets watch this space and see how it all pans out shall we.......

Should be interesting

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Let's get another thing straight ........... it is our forum to run as we please. If that attitude destroys your pleasure then sorry.

Me thinks....Head, nail, hit on!!!!

[mcnasty]

Well lets watch this space and see how it all pans out shall we.......

Should be interesting

especially if people don't abide by the rules !

[canveyshrimper]

It's a forum.
It has rules.
Users have complained.
We've taken steps.

Seriously Dave, I think we've been pretty clear about the rules and the reasons. If you have any further issues, please PM them to either myself, Cricko, Uxbridge Shrimper, Mcnasty or Matt the Shrimp.

I belong to a number of other forums and the mods on those are much tougher than those on SZ. Having said that I wouldn't want SZ to lose it's appeal for banter & light heartedness, and I suggest that there will be some "middle ground" here once these new guidelines fall into place.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

especially if people don't abide by the rules !

All People though Ken?

Not just the singled out few??

As i said before, I take my hat of to you guys but i think you have made a rod for your own back.

[Rayleigh Weir]

But myself and many other Zoners that i have spoke to me are worried that the [I]It's our Forum[I] mentality will destroy this zone

Isn't this exactly what the new rules aim to instil? This is a forum for everyone, not just the few who dominate every thread and divert each topic into their own private in-joke discussion. It's that mentality that will destroy this zone for the majority of users...

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I belong to a number of other forums and the mods on those are much tougher than those on SZ. Having said that I wouldn't want SZ to lose it's appeal for banter & light heartedness, and I suggest that there will be some "middle ground" here once these new guidelines fall into place.

This is true, trouble is, like most thinks, it is open to interpretation and one persons opinion of acceptable banter might not be another’s

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Isn't this exactly what the new rules aim to instil? This is a forum for everyone, not just the few who dominate every thread and divert each topic into their own private in-joke discussion. It's that mentality that will destroy this zone for the majority of users...

When you say dominate every thread....do you mean because they post more than others??

[Interpol Shrimper]

If anybody thinks I am overly-guilty of thread diversion then please let me know.

Either as suggested use the new smilies, reply stating that what I've posted is not funny/relevant or even PM me.

I've stopped trying to divert stuff as much as I probably was in the summer, especially if it's on a SUFC thread (as I said earlier I feel it matters less if it's a Pub thread, such as my attempt at cutting humour in Aberdeen's thread about the head/hands being discovered in Arbroath!).

Possibly my final word on this issue.....

[number11]

This is true, trouble is, like most thinks, it is open to interpretation and one persons opinion of acceptable banter might not be another’s


I dont actually understand your annoyance at what the mods are trying to do.

Surely if you accept that some people ARE unhappy with things recently, then even out of respect / decency you can change the way you post. Also, where there are facilities (the Live chat thread) for continuing what it is that is being criticised, surely your enjoyment (and those you speak to) will not be diminished, and for others their enjoyment of this board will be improved...... therefore what the mods are trying to do is a win win situation?

[number11]

When you say dominate every thread....do you mean because they post more than others??


Not wanting to put words in his mouth, but I suspect its not to do with volume, but that posts are only really addressed to and relevant to a select few. I wouldnt take it so personally. Ive seen people criticised in the past for making their personal arrangements on the board, where of course a PM would suffice as the post is only relevant to a select few....likewise surely the Live Chat thread is the best place for 'wacky banter' between mates...and if that banter arises from another particular thread, then a link, or reference in the post to another thread can be made?

[canveyshrimper]

If anybody thinks I am overly-guilty of thread diversion then please let me know.

Either as suggested use the new smilies, reply stating that what I've posted is not funny/relevant or even PM me.

I've stopped trying to divert stuff as much as I probably was in the summer, especially if it's on a SUFC thread (as I said earlier I feel it matters less if it's a Pub thread, such as my attempt at cutting humour in Aberdeen's thread about the head/hands being discovered in Arbroath!).

Possibly my final word on this issue.....

I guess that a lot of regular posters are guilty of thread diversion at times, even I have been known to throw a pun or two into a thread. I agree that it probably matters less in the Pub, as like true Pub conversations a variety of subjects will be discussed, and many of these diverted in many ways.

As far as the main board goes I always try and keep on topic as much as possible, but to be fair some posts and comments can be so asinine that they fully deserve a sarcastic or "witty" response.

[The Flying Scotsman]

Loads of threads were taken over by inane 'in-joking', slightly nausiating / embarrassing 'flirting', and such like between a few posters, that could be carried out via a group email / pm or the 'Live Chat Room'. As I said, I dont post much, and Im sure what I do post is not overly interesting, but I am aware of posters who used to post dont bother anymore because of the above, and that is surely a shame?

Agreed, and not surprised to see that the biggest culprit is the one who is dominating this thread with his complaints about the new rules! The owners pay a load of money each month for this site and its up to them how they want to run it, so there are 2 options. 1 - Go with it. A middle ground is bound to develop and all will be happy. 2 - Set up your own message board and create your own rules.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Not wanting to put words in his mouth, but I suspect its not to do with volume, but that posts are only really addressed to and relevant to a select few. I wouldnt take it so personally. Ive seen people criticised in the past for making their personal arrangements on the board, where of course a PM would suffice as the post is only relevant to a select few....likewise surely the Live Chat thread is the best place for 'wacky banter' between mates...and if that banter arises from another particular thread, then a link, or reference in the post to another thread can be made?

I know what you mean, i have been posting and slipped in a question to someone because it is easier than sending a PM.

The reason that i only talk to the usual suspects is because I know them well and to be fair i have attempted to speak to other more established posters but never really get anything back from them so don’t bother anymore.

There are groups of people on here that will only talk to the usual folk they talk to and i guess that is only natural but when you try and break in to the group and get shut out, then why bother?

[Rayleigh Weir]

When you say dominate every thread....do you mean because they post more than others??

Nope. I'm talking about the off-topic conversations that crop up on threads that many other people would otherwise have taken an interest in posting on. Taking a thread off-topic into in-joke territory can often exclude the majority audience, which defeats the stated objective of this 'forum'.

I'm not even criticising those who may think that they're the ones being persecuted by the new rules - I've been as guilty as the next man of punning and fatuous one-liners, but I can accept the rules for what they are attempting to achieve - not to remove the silly irreverent humour, but to maintain the potential inclusion of all people who started to read a thread out of interest in the subject. A minority of people put an enormous amount of effort into this site for the enjoyment of ALL. I'd hate to think that I could be a part of a selfish minority who was spoiling the enjoyment of the majority...

[Mad Cyril]

So are we trying to be more Radio 4 and less Radio 1?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Agreed, and not surprised to see that the biggest culprit is the one who is dominating this thread with his complaints about the new rules! The owners pay a load of money each month for this site and its up to them how they want to run it, so there are 2 options. 1 - Go with it. A middle ground is bound to develop and all will be happy. 2 - Set up your own message board and create your own rules.

The biggest culprit of Diverting Threads?? And Non relevant banter????

[Napster]

So are we trying to be more Radio 4 and less Radio 1?

I hope so. I love the Now Show. :clap:

[Firestorm]

To preserve the nature of the board, we need everyone posting to show the required levels of restraint and sensibility. Before posting, simply ask yourself:


“Am I adding something of value to this thread?"



Right so thats my post count tailing rght off then............

[Napster]

Right so thats my post count tailing rght off then............

I want to hear more stories from your Hollywood brother though.

[londonblue]

Out of interest, whilst we're discussing these things. Why do we need a Live Chat forum when we have a chat room anyway?

[Bob Cratchitt]

Out of interest, whilst we're discussing these things. Why do we need a Live Chat forum when we have a chat room anyway?

A..The chat room is complicated to use.

B..The chat room is seen as a bad thing whilst at work

C..The chat room does not allow the post count to increase.

D..You cannot positive Rep in the Chat Room.

E..The Chat room does not allow you to fulfill meglomanic tendencies.

F..The Chat room is dynamic so unless you are in at the time you will miss the conversation.

Am I guessing at least one of these is the reason given to why the Chat Thread is preferred.

Woof slurp Woof :D

[Interpol Shrimper]

Out of interest, whilst we're discussing these things. Why do we need a Live Chat forum when we have a chat room anyway?

Because a lot of work internet setups will ban an attempt to access a "chatroom" but are OK with message boards!

[OldBlueLady]

Not really had the time to post on this up till now, I guess I'm one of those now being grouped into the"those using threads inappropriately and/or thread diverting brigade". Well, apologies if any have complained, but at the moment I basically have the kind of anonymity on this forum to say things on here I'd never say to people's faces. If I've been doing that in the wrong place, again, I'm sorry. The "Live" thread sometimes gets far too bogged down to say things, and then by the time you get into the conversation, the moment has passed and your comment becomes completely irrelevant. In the main, I think I try and keep to subject matter everywhere except on the Pub threads and like several have said, that sort of backs up the way pub conversations go, however, when idiots come and give me completely unnecessary neg rep for innocuous (?) remarks - use of the word "gibberish"?! - then I feel I have the right to express my displeasure in that forum.

I don't envy you guys, just from my experience, there are ways of handling things and there are ways of handling things. Maybe a quiet PM or two might have been more appropriate under the circumstances than coming out with the statement you have, which does seem heavily weighted against certain users.

BTW, I don't know how to find my way into the chat room, anyone care to tell me? It's not an option on the page I have logged in on.

[Bob Cratchitt]

Because a lot of work internet setups will ban an attempt to access a "chatroom" but are OK with message boards!

Too be honest as the chat room on here does not use IRC protocols and as far as i can see has not be spotted by the content filtering companies as being a chat site, I would say that you should be able to access it, if not i would be interested what Content Filtering system is used by your company, as this is my area of expertise now and the two systems that we currently use have not spotted SZ.com having chat and they are the biggest players in this field.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Too be honest as the chat room on here does not use IRC protocols and as far as i can see has not be spotted by the content filtering companies as being a chat site, I would say that you should be able to access it, if not i would be interested what Content Filtering system is used by your company, as this is my area of expertise now and the two systems that we currently use have not spotted SZ.com having chat and they are the biggest players in this field.

Well,

I worked for Shell Expro and now work for a government run service provider and i can access both the SZ forum and the Chat Room, not to say that others can though

[Firestorm]

We have a seriously aggressive Filtering system, yet it does not pick up the Chatroom or the forum whilst most other forums are not allowed

[Interpol Shrimper]

Too be honest as the chat room on here does not use IRC protocols and as far as i can see has not be spotted by the content filtering companies as being a chat site, I would say that you should be able to access it, if not i would be interested what Content Filtering system is used by your company, as this is my area of expertise now and the two systems that we currently use have not spotted SZ.com having chat and they are the biggest players in this field.

Ah OK, didn't realise that, I hold my hands up & say I assumed that would be the case!

[JoshC]

Some threads benefit from hijacking where lots of people discuss something that is not totally irrelevent to the original topic, it becomes annoying when 2 people have a conversation on a subject that they are only interested in and the original thread is lost. It's tough to deal with as some diversions make a thread which was going nowhere into a proper discussion or conversation but others just ruin perfectly good conversations for no real gain, these are what need to be stopped as I'm sure the mods know. Keep up the good work in continuing to make this site interesting and fun for all.

[Bluetonic]

Basically what the gang are saying is 'more Bluetonic', and 'less rubbish', which I know you all agree with. Just going with the populist vote here guys.

[Dept36]

Lets get one thing straight.....I take my hat off to you and all the other people that put in so much time and effort to run this forum.

But myself and many other Zoners that i have spoke to me are worried that the Its our Forum mentality will destroy this zone
ok stab in the dark here but i wonder erm yes maybe could you have spoken to,hold on will it be,nope bored myself then,sorry.

[Dept36]

All People though Ken?

Not just the singled out few??

As i said before, I take my hat of to you guys but i think you have made a rod for your own back.
Dave,how many singled out people on here are moaning,seems to me thats its just you really.

[Pubey]

Isn't this exactly what the new rules aim to instil? This is a forum for everyone, not just the few who dominate every thread and divert each topic into their own private in-joke discussion. It's that mentality that will destroy this zone for the majority of users...

completely agree... The Pub especially has been going downhill and I personally think that these rules and rule changes will be for the better. Everyone can go on about cliques, groups of mates etc and personally i don't give a f*ck... it's just that i think the quality of the board has been severely weakened by the constant junk that gets posted... and that threads often become a long string of in-joke banter which isn't meant for anyone other than a few people.

good job mods!

[Bluetonic]

completely agree... The Pub especially has been going downhill and I personally think that these rules and rule changes will be for the better. Everyone can go on about cliques, groups of mates etc and personally i don't give a f*ck... it's just that i think the quality of the board has been severely weakened by the constant junk that gets posted... and that threads often become a long string of in-joke banter which isn't meant for anyone other than a few people.

good job mods!
so you're effectively saying 'more Bluetonic'. I agree - anyone else?

[Pubey]

BTW, I don't know how to find my way into the chat room, anyone care to tell me? It's not an option on the page I have logged in on.

at the bottom of this page (and all forum pages) there is a link that says "shrimperzone"... this will take you to the frontpage. then on the left hand side the 2nd option down says "chat room"

[Interpol Shrimper]

One more point from me, I guess I am in other people's eyes part of this "new clique" - however, I'd like it known for the record that if anybody whether they've posted a couple of times or have been part of the furniture on here for years addresses a post to me directly or indirectly then I will usually respond, in probably a positive way!

[Dept36]

If anybody thinks I am overly-guilty of thread diversion then please let me know.

Either as suggested use the new smilies, reply stating that what I've posted is not funny/relevant or even PM me.

I've stopped trying to divert stuff as much as I probably was in the summer, especially if it's on a SUFC thread (as I said earlier I feel it matters less if it's a Pub thread, such as my attempt at cutting humour in Aberdeen's thread about the head/hands being discovered in Arbroath!).

Possibly my final word on this issue.....
hand on heart you have never diverted any of my threads but then they are not worth diverting anyway.
But i hate you because you know all the words to interpol songs and are much better looking than me and younger and you have a job,ok i dont hate you but i do hate others on here,cant wait to meet them.

[Pubey]

so you're effectively saying 'more Bluetonic'. I agree - anyone else?

I'm saying this... you're a tit, and The Vines are sh*t

[Bob Cratchitt]

BTW, I don't know how to find my way into the chat room, anyone care to tell me? It's not an option on the page I have logged in on.


at the bottom of this page (and all forum pages) there is a link that says "shrimperzone"... this will take you to the frontpage. then on the left hand side the 2nd option down says "chat room"

Although I am going to be adding the ability to jump into it from right in here, and people will be entered with their board userids. So no more puppets allowed in there either :p

[Bluetonic]

I'm saying this... you're a tit, and The Vines are sh*t
Not even 'Highly Evolved'? This decades 'Nevermind'!

[Napster]

I'm saying this... you're a tit, and The Vines are sh*t

I've added him to my ignore list, along with VIP Blue.

[Pubey]

Although I am going to be adding the ability to jump into it from right in here, and people will be entered with their board userids. So no more puppets allowed in there either :p

good idea Mao... although i have quite liked being "Sir Pubes-alot" recently

[Interpol Shrimper]

But i hate you because you know all the words to interpol songs and are much better looking than me and younger and you have a job,ok i dont hate you but i do hate others on here,cant wait to meet them.

:D

See, humour can live on within these boards!

If only I really did know all the words to Interpol songs.
No idea how old you are, I also have issues over my appearance.
Oh & if you want a job, you can have mine!

[Pubey]

Not even 'Highly Evolved'? This decades 'Nevermind'!

The Vines are still sh*t, but that post made me laugh quite a lot (... mainly cos nirvana were/are massively overrated)

[Bluetonic]

The Vines are still sh*t, but that post made me laugh quite a lot (... mainly cos nirvana were/are massively overrated)
I prefer Soundgarden - but it's this kind of 'banter' (I use that term very loosely) that'll see us lose our licences.

[OldBlueLady]

:offtopic: Have I got the hang of this?

[Interpol Shrimper]

Although I am going to be adding the ability to jump into it from right in here

Good effort I like it.


people will be entered with their board userids. So no more puppets allowed in there either :p

Boo, always fun to see what new names people have come up with for themselves on a Saturday!

[OldBlueLady]

Good effort I like it.



Boo, always fun to see what new names people have come up with for themselves on a Saturday!


See, now you're scaring me. At least on here I kind of know what I'm getting myself into.

[Bob Cratchitt]

:offtopic: Have I got the hang of this?

:clap: Yep that is about the right use :D

[Interpol Shrimper]

See, now you're scaring me. At least on here I kind of know what I'm getting myself into.

The best ones were around the time of the Battle of the Bands!
MK "Mick Jagger is a haggered old has-been" Shrimper was one of my faves!

[Pubey]

yeah sorry my bad!:doh:

[The General]

It seems like this has been a bit of a touchy subject with some people posting on this thread! It certainly made me laugh. I haven't been about much lately as the better half is back from Uni but i have heard about a few instances going on, one including telling each other its their go on scrabulous! I have openly complained about some of the sh*t getting posted on this board ( the pub ) and hopefully it will improve soon!

Kev

[Interpol Shrimper]

It seems like this has been a bit of a touchy subject with some people posting on this thread! It certainly made me laugh. I haven't been about much lately as the better half is back from Uni but i have heard about a few instances going on, one including telling each other its their go on scrabulous! I have openly complained about some of the sh*t getting posted on this board ( the pub ) and hopefully it will improve soon!

Kev

Says the man with a 100% record of being cutting, funny & relevant in all 14,000+ of his posts! :D

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Dave,how many singled out people on here are moaning,seems to me thats its just you really.


Probably is mate, but i am glad that you acknowledge that i have been singled out, to be honest I am not interested in your opinion

[OldBlueLady]

Probably is mate


No, I'm less than happy I can assure you. There's a lot of sanctimonious claptrap being spouted on here when all people have ever needed to do was use the "ignore" function.

[callan]

No, I'm less than happy I can assure you. There's a lot of sanctimonious claptrap being spouted on here when all people have ever needed to do was use the "ignore" function.

Think you've missed the point.....it's not about ignoring people...on topic most have something worthwhile to say.

[Pubey]

No, I'm less than happy I can assure you. There's a lot of sanctimonious claptrap being spouted on here when all people have ever needed to do was use the "ignore" function.

sorry but that's rubbish... there isn't one poster on here that i want to completely ignore.. bluetonic et al have their moments, and people like aberdeen et al often post interesting, funny messages and through sheer quantity even threads which are still on topic would just not make any sense by block ignoring them.

if you don't like it then bugger back off to the 606 board, but i think there has rightly been concern that inthe last 6-12months, it's all got a bit out of hand, and that the board has been funnier, more interesting and a bit more inclusive in the past, and these rule changes should help improve the situation

[Einstein]

Says the man with a 100% record of being cutting, funny & relevant in all 14,000+ of his posts! :DI'd guess the majority of those 14,000+ posts were when Kevin was young and naive and another large majority to do with SZFC and on the private board. I rarely see The General on the main board posting anymore.

I think if SZ.com actually put a quota on posts then it might make all of this irrelevant. Max 25 posts a day and you won't have the cr*p that's currently posted on here and people will actually think before hitting post.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Think you've missed the point.....it's not about ignoring people...on topic most have something worthwhile to say.

What is worthwhile to you may not be worthwhile to me though, do you not agree??

[Interpol Shrimper]

sorry but that's rubbish... there isn't one poster on here that i want to completely ignore.. bluetonic et al have their moments, and people like aberdeen et al often post interesting, funny messages and through sheer quantity even threads which are still on topic would just not make any sense by block ignoring them.

if you don't like it then bugger back off to the 606 board, but i think there has rightly been concern that inthe last 6-12months, it's all got a bit out of hand, and that the board has been funnier, more interesting and a bit more inclusive in the past, and these rule changes should help improve the situation

I agree with most of what you said other than the highlighted piece!

[JoshC]

Why all the hostility all of a sudden people??

[Einstein]

now work for a government run service provider and i can access both the SZ forum and the Chat Room, not to say that others can thoughI feel happy in the knowledge I no longer pay UK Tax :)

[Interpol Shrimper]

I'd guess the majority of those 14,000+ posts were when Kevin was young and naive and another large majority to do with SZFC and on the private board. I rarely see The General on the main board posting anymore.

I think if SZ.com actually put a quota on posts then it might make all of this irrelevant. Max 25 posts a day and you won't have the cr*p that's currently posted on here and people will actually think before hitting post.

I was only being sarcy, not genuinely malicious.

A posting quota would not get my vote!

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I'd guess the majority of those 14,000+ posts were when Kevin was young and naive and another large majority to do with SZFC and on the private board. I rarely see The General on the main board posting anymore.

I think if SZ.com actually put a quota on posts then it might make all of this irrelevant. Max 25 posts a day and you won't have the cr*p that's currently posted on here and people will actually think before hitting post.

Absolutely Superb idea

I 100% agree with this suggestion...then i might get some work done.

Einstein, you will single handily increase the UK productivity in the work place by 25%

[Pubey]

I agree with most of what you said other than the highlighted piece!

yep maybe i was harsh and i apologise, but there are other forums about SUFC (none of which are anywhere good as SZ) which you may find a bit more up your street if people are getting their knickers in a twist over this all

[OldBlueLady]

I agree with most of what you said other than the highlighted piece!


And that's exactly it isn't it? What some people deem as offensive, others don't, and that post can be seen by everyone. I find your sentiment Pubey, completely OUT OF ORDER.

The ignore function, as far as I'm aware, only applies to an individual poster, not to whole threads, so therefore you can view a thread and ignore posters you don't want to hear from.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I feel happy in the knowledge I no longer pay UK Tax :)

You just speak Double Dutch to me!!!

[callan]

What is worthwhile to you may not be worthwhile to me though, do you not agree??

Certainly....'it's your turn at scrabble'', is not worthwile and has nothing to do with a thread about bikes...being an example of something of no interest and therefore worthless.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Why all the hostility all of a sudden people??

Fuc*k off

;)

[number11]

[QUOTE=Einstein;639929]I'd guess the majority of those 14,000+ posts were when Kevin was young and naive and another large majority to do with SZFC and on the private board. I rarely see The General on the main board posting anymore.

QUOTE]

That surely is the key point.....if Kev wants to post something only a limited few (Eg SZFC) are interested in, then he will do so on that forum, and not continually have conversations only a select few are interested in on other general threads. The few who are taking offence to what the mods are trying to do have actually been given the benefit of allowing a Live Chat thread to remain and so I cant see how they can complain. Im surprised anyone is taking offence and unable to see what the mods are trying to achieve.

[OldBlueLady]

Certainly....'it's your turn at scrabble'', is not worthwile and has nothing to do with a thread about bikes...being an example of something of no interest and therefore worthless.

Ok, fair point. It was posted as part of a postscript to a conversation already on going to do with the thread title though.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Certainly....'it's your turn at scrabble'', is not worthwile and has nothing to do with a thread about bikes...being an example of something of no interest and therefore worthless.


Ok.....I have to concede that one.....that was getting out of hand

[Einstein]

Absolutely Superb idea

I 100% agree with this suggestion...then i might get some work done.

Einstein, you will single handily increase the UK productivity in the work place by 25%Glad you liked the idea.

Maybe this needs a poll to catch the general opinion!

I'd guess it would only effect 3/4 posters anyway....

[Einstein]

A posting quota would not get my vote!

I really am :stunned:

It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact you are currently on course to be 'top poster' on SZ.com would it?!

They don't call me sherlock for nothing :sherlock:

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Glad you liked the idea.

Maybe this needs a poll to catch the general opinion!

I'd guess it would only effect 3/4 posters anyway....

It would effect me...but even though i would get withdraw symptoms.....it would be in a good way.

There is a lot more to life that this forum

[J]

I can't be bothered reading through all this ****.. i do feel, however, that everyone has got a lot off their chest today, and i think every body has conquered the first stage of acceptance. Doesn't everybody feel, just that bit lighter off the shoulders?

[J]

I really am a tit


I have been waiting for you to admit that for years!! :)

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I can't be bothered reading through all this ****.. i do feel, however, that everyone has got a lot off their chest today, and i think every body has conquered the first stage of acceptance. Doesn't everybody feel, just that bit lighter off the shoulders?

ERRRMMM,

I will take the 5th on that one for now J

[Einstein]

I have been waiting for you to admit that for years!! :)Not bad for you.... :p

[callan]

Ok, fair point. It was posted as part of a postscript to a conversation already on going to do with the thread title though.

Now if follow your rationale of ignoring your posts then I miss out on the stuff I do want read such as the thurday quiz, your view of a game etc.

[OldBlueLady]

I can't be bothered reading through all this ****.. i do feel, however, that everyone has got a lot off their chest today, and i think every body has conquered the first stage of acceptance. Doesn't everybody feel, just that bit lighter off the shoulders?


No, I bl00dy don't. I tell you, I was shaking I was so cross earlier, have calmed down a little now, but heart is still pounding a lot faster than usual.

[J]

No, I bl00dy don't. I tell you, I was shaking earlier, have calmed down a little now, but heart is still pounding a lot faster than usual.

Have you ever danced off your tits on ecstacy? just asking like..

[OldBlueLady]

Have you ever danced off your tits on ecstacy? just asking like..


No, bit after my time and besides, that's :offtopic: ! See, I'm getting the hang now.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Just to be clear:

This thread wasn't about singling any particular individuals out for blame. The spectre of "cliques" has had many guises, with different members, at different times during the life of the Zone. Remember SZFC pos-repping each other? I for one thought that that was causing a lot of grief on the Zone, so we had to act to change things. It was unpopular at the time, and dare I say it... the Zone is a happier place for it now.

Thread diversion is simply another manifestation - an unfortunate one, not necessarily intentional, not created with malice-aforethought, but one that lives and breathes all the same - of a clique.

Cliques are bad for SZ.com... and so we have had to act to ensure that this particular clique does not continue doing what it currently does.

For my money, I don't want to block anyone's posts from view. Everyone - individually - has valid and interesting input to make on a huge range of topics.

It's only when a group of those individuals unintentionally forms a clique that there becomes a problem - and it's that that we're addressing in this thread, nothing else.

We loves ya all, honest. Even Bluetonic.

Matt

[Bluetonic]

No, I bl00dy don't. I tell you, I was shaking I was so cross earlier, have calmed down a little now, but heart is still pounding a lot faster than usual.
Like I said to you the other day, you get this highly strung over a forum, maybe you should consider doing something else as well. Crown green bowls, watching the complete Wrestlemania collection, eating haggis, downloading the latest Kooks album, writing that saucy novel you've always wanted to write, darning socks, growing a beard, pontificating, debating the merits of Supergrass, listening to TMS at 3am, reading the paper, sipping a cool mango juice...

[Interpol Shrimper]

I really am :stunned:

It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact you are currently on course to be 'top poster' on SZ.com would it?!

They don't call me sherlock for nothing :sherlock:

No not at all!
I need this to get me through 8 hours a day of dull office work!
People have got higher averages of posts a day than me & also got higher rep so not bothered at all!
Guess I've just got a lot to say (feel free to go through all I've posted so far today & see where I haven't fulfilled the criteria at the top of this post!)

[J]

ERRRMMM,

I will take the 5th on that one for now J

Que????? ??

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Que????? ??


I will PM you mate

[Einstein]

I will PM you mateCan we highlight this as an example. Wouldn't it have been easier just to PM rather than the world of SZ.com knowing you were PM-ing?!

I thought the whole point of private messaging someone was that it was.... well... private...!

[OldBlueLady]

Like I said to you the other day, you get this highly strung over a forum, maybe you should consider doing something else as well. Crown green bowls, watching the complete Wrestlemania collection, eating haggis, downloading the latest Kooks album, writing that saucy novel you've always wanted to write, darning socks, growing a beard, pontificating, debating the merits of Supergrass, listening to TMS at 3am, reading the paper, sipping a cool mango juice...


I do get highly strung, and not just about this. I also get seriously indignant. I wish you hadn't started that list with bowls as apart from that it seems a reasonable enough thing to say.

[J]

Can we highlight this as an example. Wouldn't it have been easier just to PM rather than the world of SZ.com knowing you were PM-ing?!

I thought the whole point of private messaging someone was that it was.... well... private...!

But now i feel very important.

[OldBlueLady]

Can we highlight this as an example. Wouldn't it have been easier just to PM rather than the world of SZ.com knowing you were PM-ing?!

I thought the whole point of private messaging someone was that it was.... well... private...!


See now, I disagree. Surely that's a matter of politeness in acknowledging the original post.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Would it be a bad suggestion to create a Drivel Area so that people can just talk Bollox if they feel that need with out fear of being castigated for it.

Knowing the entire mind numbingly boring no related uninteresting off topic crap that i spout.........I could set up home in it!!!

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Can we highlight this as an example. Wouldn't it have been easier just to PM rather than the world of SZ.com knowing you were PM-ing?!

I thought the whole point of private messaging someone was that it was.... well... private...!

Yes....sorry

[Interpol Shrimper]

Would it be a bad suggestion to create a Drivel Area so that people can just talk Bollox if they feel that need with out fear of being castigated for it.

Knowing the entire mind numbingly boring no related uninteresting off topic crap that i spout.........I could set up home in it!!!

But that's what the Live thread is about though as I just said to you in there!

[Pubey]

Would it be a bad suggestion to create a Drivel Area so that people can just talk Bollox if they feel that need with out fear of being castigated for it.

Knowing the entire mind numbingly boring no related uninteresting off topic crap that i spout.........I could set up home in it!!!

it's called the "Live" thread... that impenetrable thread of sh*te that only very few dare enter.

lets try and keep it all in 1 thread eh!?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Can we highlight this as an example. Wouldn't it have been easier just to PM rather than the world of SZ.com knowing you were PM-ing?!

I thought the whole point of private messaging someone was that it was.... well... private...!


Was that how you wanted me to put it?

When you PM'd me to say post drivel and i will use it as an example, I hope that people realised that!!!

[OldBlueLady]

But that's what the Live thread is about though as I just said to you in there!

It does get a bit congested at times though.

[number11]

Would it be a bad suggestion to create a Drivel Area so that people can just talk Bollox if they feel that need with out fear of being castigated for it.

Knowing the entire mind numbingly boring no related uninteresting off topic crap that i spout.........I could set up home in it!!!


I dont mean this to sound facetious in any way, but wasnt the Live Chat thread set up for this particular reason? I thought that was basically a no holds barred thread for random comments, 'jokes' with friends, flirting etc?

[Interpol Shrimper]

it's called the "Live" thread... that impenetrable thread of sh*te that only very few dare enter.

lets try and keep it all in 1 thread eh!?

The one you've posted in 13 times? :D

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

it's called the "Live" thread... that impenetrable thread of sh*te that only very few dare enter.

lets try and keep it all in 1 thread eh!?


you sould come in sometime....the water is warm

;)

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

I dont mean this to sound facetious in any way, but wasnt the Live Chat thread set up for this particular reason? I thought that was basically a no holds barred thread for random comments, 'jokes' with friends, flirting etc?

So did I, but it seems not

[Interpol Shrimper]

I thought that was basically a no holds barred thread for flirting etc?

Can I ask, who is actually flirting with who?

[Matt the Shrimp]

Can I ask, who is actually flirting with who?

:offtopic:

Are we getting the hang of this, yet...?!

:headbang:

[Yellow Army]

irate ians - quote myself and answer my questions thread? that made me irate

[OldBlueLady]

Can I ask, who is actually flirting with who?



Seriously :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :whistling:

[The Flying Scotsman]

:hijack:

Back to your own thread!

[Interpol Shrimper]

:offtopic:

Are we getting the hang of this, yet...?!

:headbang:

Er, how the **** is that off topic?
If somebody has commented on something which has evolved (this is allowed, remember, see earlier comments from one of the owners) from the initial topic and I just want to know one answer and quote that person directly it cannot strictly be said to be off topic?

[J]

Was that how you wanted me to put it?

When you PM'd me to say post drivel and i will use it as an example, I hope that people realised that!!!

Now I ****ING AM CONFUSED!


am i getting a PM or not?

[Napster]

Hahaha this is hilarious. Keep it up.

[OldBlueLady]

Er, how the **** is that off topic?
If somebody has commented on something which has evolved (this is allowed, remember, see earlier comments from one of the owners) from the initial topic and I just want to know one answer and quote that person directly it cannot strictly be said to be off topic?

But you see, you now need to go over to the Live thread to make this point, by which time you've lost every notion of what you were doing in the first place.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Er, how the **** is that off topic?
If somebody has commented on something which has evolved (this is allowed, remember, see earlier comments from one of the owners) from the initial topic and I just want to know one answer and quote that person directly it cannot strictly be said to be off topic?

Hmm. You may have a point in general. But not today, not on this thread.

Matt

[stereoscene]

i dont have a pm either. please advise

[J]

The new shrimperzone rules-

1. No posting is allowed unless you are a Mod.
2. No arguing with the Mods or you will be banned.
3. If you are an old blue lady, or anybody that lives north of carlisle, you will be persecuted.
4. Only finger sandwiches will be served at the next director's meeting, served by Matt's butler chesney.

[chadded]

I think all replies to this thread should be deleted, and then this topic should be pinned for a while in the forums. The content should be taken IMO, with a pinch of salt. Thread will get diverted naturally sometimes, that the nature of the beast, but constant thread diverting in an unatural manner should be avoided. But then what do I care, I'm out of here soon.

[J]

I think all replies to this thread should be deleted, and then this topic should be pinned for a while in the forums. The content should be taken IMO, with a pinch of sort. Thread will get diverted naturally sometimes, that the nature of the beast, but constant thread diverting in an unatural manner should be avoided. But then what do I care, I'm out of here soon.

Au revoir.

[OldBlueLady]

I think all replies to this thread should be deleted, and then this topic should be pinned for a while in the forums. The content should be taken IMO, with a pinch of sort. Thread will get diverted naturally sometimes, that the nature of the beast, but constant thread diverting in an unatural manner should be avoided. But then what do I care, I'm out of here soon.


See now finger itching to correct that to "salt" but wondering if I need to go over to the Live thread to do so as it's :offtopic: .


Yes, that was tongue in cheek, and I think you're right as it goes. Maybe it should just be a sticky at the top of all relevant forums with a closed response.

[Interpol Shrimper]

Can I play devils advocate for a minute?
If we are all guilty of being too familiar and should be encouraged to use the PM function more, is there any chance of people's inbox's being expanded again? I know they were doubled from 50 to 100 but it's amazing how quickly they fill up. OK, there's the argument of delete your older/sent messages a lot more often but I have a selection I'd like to keep.

[MrB]

Threads like this make me remember why I live here. I love you guys!

[TrueBlue]

The new shrimperzone rules-

1. No posting is allowed unless you are a Mod.
2. No arguing with the Mods or you will be banned.
3. If you are an old blue lady, or anybody that lives north of carlisle, you will be persecuted.
4. Only finger sandwiches will be served at the next director's meeting, served by Matt's butler chesney.

Chesney Hawkes?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

The new shrimperzone rules-

1. No posting is allowed unless you are a Mod.
2. No arguing with the Mods or you will be banned.
3. If you are an old blue lady, or anybody that lives north of carlisle, you will be persecuted.
4. Only finger sandwiches will be served at the next director's meeting, served by Matt's butler chesney.


J........you are so getting greens for that.

Although i am not saying that i agree.

:whistling:

You see now i am unsure if i just diverted the thread by saying J........you are so getting greens for that.

Ow well, i am sure that i will get told either way

[Cricko]

Can I play devils advocate for a minute?
If we are all guilty of being too familiar and should be encouraged to use the PM function more, is there any chance of people's inbox's being expanded again? I know they were doubled from 50 to 100 but it's amazing how quickly they fill up. OK, there's the argument of delete your older/sent messages a lot more often but I have a selection I'd like to keep.

What a lovely day it is today ......No Rich the PM boxes cannot get any bigger because most people don't bother emptying there's
so it takes up a lot of space..I think for the record everybody should take a :chill: here....The Owners are only trying to do what is best for the Zone members overall ..It is not personal to anybody in particular...The "Live" chat thread is there for the purpose of just that ...banter and random chatting, hence why it was born.....Lets all try to play nice and please appreciate we value every member of the Zone and only make the changes/rules for the benefit of the Members.

[Einstein]

Can I play devils advocate for a minute?I thought you'd posted your last thoughts on this thread about 4 pages back?! :D

I can't be far off my 25 post quota today. That's me done for the day....

[Interpol Shrimper]

I thought you'd posted your last thoughts on this thread about 4 pages back?! :D

I can't be far off my 25 post quota today. That's me done for the day....

Well, I can't help it if circumstances dictate I need to add value by posting again can I?

I think I went past my 25 at about 11am :unsure:


What a lovely day it is today ......No Rich the PM boxes cannot get any bigger because most people don't bother emptying there's
so it takes up a lot of space...

OK, I was just asking & expected that to be the answer!

[MrB]

BTW, for the record I couldn't give a rats ass who posts what and where on the board. I feel I can judge for myself what I do and don't want to read on threads, if a thread diverts then fine, just stop reading it if you're not interested.

Not saying the position taken by the owners is wrong, it's how a message board should run, however it's all been blown way out of proportion by certain quarters!

The Pub is The Pub, conversations will wander!

[OldBlueLady]

BTW, for the record I couldn't give a rats ass who posts what and where on the board. I feel I can judge for myself what I do and don't want to read on threads, if a thread diverts then fine, just stop reading it if you're not interested.

Not saying the position taken by the owners is wrong, it's how a message board should run, however it's all been blown way out of proportion by certain quarters!

The Pub is The Pub, conversations will wander!

Stands and applauds :clap: (Rep quota for today all used up - and has been [I think] all green). Will remind myself for tomorrow.

[Interpol Shrimper]

Stands and applauds :clap: (Rep quota for today all used up - and has been [I think] all green). Will remind myself for tomorrow.

Ditto, I'm in the same boat!

[Cricko]

Bugga thats 4 bits of Green I will miss today then..:support:

Back on topic....

[Interpol Shrimper]

Back on topic....

I might get a T-Shirt printed up for 3 May saying this so everybody knows who I am! :p

[TrueBlue]

BTW, for the record I couldn't give a rats ass who posts what and where on the board. I feel I can judge for myself what I do and don't want to read on threads, if a thread diverts then fine, just stop reading it if you're not interested.

Not saying the position taken by the owners is wrong, it's how a message board should run, however it's all been blown way out of proportion by certain quarters!

The Pub is The Pub, conversations will wander!

Give this man a steak meal!!!!

[WestRoadShrimper]

See now, I disagree. Surely that's a matter of politeness in acknowledging the original post.

No, for two reasons.

Firstly, you can acknowledge the original post to open up the PM (you can quote into a PM after all), and secondly etiquette on a message board is different - ie you don't start each post with 'Dear Sir/Madam' etc

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

No, for two reasons.

Firstly, you can acknowledge the original post to open up the PM (you can quote into a PM after all), and secondly etiquette on a message board is different - ie you don't start each post with 'Dear Sir/Madam' etc

Dear Madam West Road Shrimper....

Bite me in the PM's!!!!

:p

[OldBlueLady]

No, for two reasons.

Firstly, you can acknowledge the original post to open up the PM (you can quote into a PM after all), and secondly etiquette on a message board is different - ie you don't start each post with 'Dear Sir/Madam' etc

Touch of sarcasm there maybe? Well, I'm afraid I certainly don't know how to quote into a pm, and what is the problem with a quick message that you'll pm someone? Don't get that I'm afraid.

[MrB]

No, for two reasons.

Firstly, you can acknowledge the original post to open up the PM (you can quote into a PM after all), and secondly etiquette on a message board is different - ie you don't start each post with 'Dear Sir/Madam' etc
Dear Sir,

Perhaps you don't but some of us prefer to maintain a modicum of etiquette in these here parts.

Yours sincerely,

Master Bate

[Dave the Shrimper]

It's not so much the punning, rather that it immediately goes away from the thread. And then when you click into said thread it's a tad annoying to find it diverted into a pun-fest. (Hurriedly checks his spelling before hitting enter) :)

I am with you all the way mate.

All the punning gets on my charlies too....

[MrB]

Maybe we could settle all this with a big get together at the end of the season. Someone should look into that, maybe after the Port Vale game when I'm not here?

[Cricko]

Maybe we could settle all this with a big get together at the end of the season. Someone should look into that, maybe after the Port Vale game when I'm not here?

We are arranging a whip round B to bring you back for the night. Scrounger has already started it ...with donating 2p

Off topic......*Slaps wrist*

[Dave the Shrimper]

Is this the time to mention my posters wives section I wonder?

[WestRoadShrimper]

Touch of sarcasm there maybe? Well, I'm afraid I certainly don't know how to quote into a pm, and what is the problem with a quick message that you'll pm someone? Don't get that I'm afraid.

Although I see where you and AS are coming from whatever way you look at it, it is what the mods are talking about.

You accepted that posting "It's your turn" for scrabulous was pointless as it was only directed towards one person - surely "PM sent" is exactly the same. Whether it relates to a post in the forum or not, it is of no benefit to anyone except the two people concerned.

That, at least how I've read it, is what the mods are talking about.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

All i can conclude today is that the original post in this thread IMO has had the effect of dividing and weakening the Zone today. I know that was not the desired affect at all but it seems that is what has happened, with people now squabbling on various threads.

Maybe and just maybe on reflection the issue of thread diversion, banter and Cliques could have been handled in a slightly different, way……but ho hum, the cat is out the bag now!!!

Anyway....I don’t give a flying Rats A*rse because if Southend United (that is our common bond in all this) Get in to the Play offs I will Snog every last one of you whether you like me or not.

[Napster]

Anyway....I don’t give a flying Rats A*rse because if Southend United (that is our common bond in all this) Get in to the Play offs I will Snog every last one of you whether you like me or not.

*prays for Orient to make a last-minute surge*

:whistling:

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Although I see where you and AS are coming from whatever way you look at it, it is what the mods are talking about.

You accepted that posting "It's your turn" for scrabulous was pointless as it was only directed towards one person - surely "PM sent" is exactly the same. Whether it relates to a post in the forum or not, it is of no benefit to anyone except the two people concerned.

That, at least how I've read it, is what the mods are talking about.

West Road...you will never be able to stop direct replies to each other that is just plan daft, as i have just done to you and you did to OBL and Dave the Shrimp did just above when he said...

I am with you all the way mate.

All the punning gets on my charlies too....

Saying that a direct response to a post has to go via PM is ludicrous

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

*prays for Orient to make a last-minute surge*

:whistling:

Never going to happen......Southend will be in the Play offs....and you are the first person i am going to snog

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Is this the time to mention my posters wives section I wonder?

Albeit a little off topic........

I would love to see the Posters wives section up and running

Back to the subject....

[WestRoadShrimper]

West Road...you will never be able to stop direct replies to each other that is just plan daft, as i have just done to you and you did to OBL and Dave the Shrimp did just above when he said...

I am with you all the way mate.

All the punning gets on my charlies too....

Saying that a direct response to a post has to go via PM is ludicrous

As I said, I kind of agree with you.

There is, at least to my way of thinking, a massive difference between a direct reply like we are doing here - which is about the topic in question - and a direct/personal reply that only affects one person.

Although I am replying to you it is part and parcel of the thread in general, which everyone will have a chance to take part in. A reply of "PM sent" or similar is something 99% of us are nothing to do with, and is therefore of no benefit to the board in general.

That, to my way of thinking, is what the mods are on about.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

As I said, I kind of agree with you.

There is, at least to my way of thinking, a massive difference between a direct reply like we are doing here - which is about the topic in question - and a direct/personal reply that only affects one person.

Although I am replying to you it is part and parcel of the thread in general, which everyone will have a chance to take part in. A reply of "PM sent" or similar is something 99% of us are nothing to do with, and is therefore of no benefit to the board in general.

That, to my way of thinking, is what the mods are on about.

Ow sorry, i thought you were refering to the "Its your go" comments which was posted in the Live Chat Thread???

[WestRoadShrimper]

Oh no, that's the point of the Live chat isn't it. Couldn't care less what people post in there - there's normally at least 3 different conversations on the go at one time anyway! Talking in general.

[MK Shrimper]

Well having scanned the threads on this after being out all day I've come to a few conclusions as I feel it was aimed at me (at least for one). I don't want to leave the Zone, 'cos there's some good people on here and some I've come to call friends.

1) I'm not a part of a "clique" of any kind apart from the Shrimperzone/Southend United supporters one. My job is so lax I spend the majority of the day on here, and that's why it looks like a post a lot. I respond to every poster equally, not just Aberdeen/Glasgow/Southminster etc.

2) I will reign in my so-called "Thread Diversion" & punning, especially in the main football forum and leave it to the Pub, and only to the more humourous threads. TBH, the political/immigrant threads have been done to death. Everyone knows where I stand on these matters.

Overall, I really don't want to leave here and go to Shrimpers OnLine or some other website. I want the end of season party to be a celebration of the Zone, of our (hopefully) upcoming playoffs, and good drink up with mates both familiar and new.

Message ends.

[Interpol Shrimper]

Well having scanned the threads on this after being out all day I've come to a few conclusions as I feel it was aimed at me (at least for one). I don't want to leave the Zone, 'cos there's some good people on here and some I've come to call friends.

1) I'm not a part of a "clique" of any kind apart from the Shrimperzone/Southend United supporters one. My job is so lax I spend the majority of the day on here, and that's why it looks like a post a lot. I respond to every poster equally, not just Aberdeen/Glasgow/Southminster etc.

2) I will reign in my so-called "Thread Diversion" & punning, especially in the main football forum and leave it to the Pub, and only to the more humourous threads. TBH, the political/immigrant threads have been done to death. Everyone knows where I stand on these matters.

Overall, I really don't want to leave here and go to Shrimpers OnLine or some other website. I want the end of season party to be a celebration of the Zone, of our (hopefully) upcoming playoffs, and good drink up with mates both familiar and new.

Message ends.

I see your Poster ID has already been "amended" too matey! ;)

[Cricko]

I see your Poster ID has already been "amended" too matey! ;)

Yes Rich and I did that ....I am only trying to keep the peace here...and continue the Zone on an upwards trend for all of us ..Today is/was a bad day for us all including may I say the Owners...we do not take choices or changing habits or rules lightly..As we all are friends on here and have one common goal SUFC ..we only do what we feel is correct for the Zone overall.

[MK Shrimper]

I see your Poster ID has already been "amended" too matey! ;)

Yep, saw that. Fair play I guess.

[JoshC]

Yep, saw that. Fair play I guess.
Do you ever worry that someone may scan read under your name and think that you're an Indian chef??

ps sorry :offtopic:

[MK Shrimper]

Do you ever worry that someone may scan read under your name and think that you're an Indian chef??

ps sorry :offtopic:

I do cook a mean Biryani ;)

[Interpol Shrimper]

Yes Rich and I did that ....I am only trying to keep the peace here...and continue the Zone on an upwards trend for all of us ..Today is/was a bad day for us all including may I say the Owners...we do not take choices or changing habits or rules lightly..As we all are friends on here and have one common goal SUFC ..we only do what we feel is correct for the Zone overall.

I wasn't questioning it, just felt I needed to bring it to a wider attention.

I know you are trying to keep the peace mate, I've been trying too & can I also add I've had a number of PM's today commenting positively on a lot of what I've said. Maybe the only thing I went too far on was the PM inbox extension but we sorted that quickly.

In terms of people threatening to leave the board, just because people have been asked to "focus" their behaviour I personally think is very sad. However, I am also aware of another situation which isn't really for public discussion which possibly is evidence of the bad day you guys as owners have had.

I fully agree with you that we're all here because of a common goal and I guess I'm lucky in that I've met & get on well with you, James & Matt as well as having developed strong relationships with people like MK, S_S, S_L, Aberdeen & Irish and as somebody PM'd me today, they didn't actually assume I would necessarily feel affected by the "announcement" as I wasn't considered to be part of the problem at hand. It has been commented on that people are just reacting to what they deem to be a clique, I would also like to point out that the issues this "clique" are alleged to have caused also are undertaken by certain others on here from time to time.

Maybe the time has now come to close the topic? Leave the thread once locked where it is but also create a new one with just the initial announcement which could be left as a sticky for a week or so?

[steveo]

on the subject of ettiquette:

This is apparently acceptable:


Originally Posted by southend_lady
Jenny out!!!!!!!! What a little bi*ch!!

Plus the fact she's a ginger

Would it therefore be acceptale to say for example:

"I'm glad the Paki got booted"
or
"She should get kicked cos shes black"

Just wanted some clarification.

[JoshC]

on the subject of ettiquette:

This is apparently acceptable:



Would it therefore be acceptale to say for example:

"I'm glad the Paki got booted"
or
"She should get kicked cos shes black"

Just wanted some clarification.
I'm sure saying that she is ginger is just a bit of tounge in cheek. I recall Southend_Lady saying that she has a fear of ginger people (even though it is also rumoured she is ginger...) its just a bit of light hearted fun, people seem to be getting really touchy today.

[South Bank Hank]

Maybe the time has now come to close the topic? Leave the thread once locked where it is but also create a new one with just the initial announcement which could be left as a sticky for a week or so?

Rich, I think you've been a cracking help today in terms of keeping the peace, but also looking at things in a very sensible way.

I'd like to let the thread continue to run it's course because it's important that people feel they've had a chance to express their opinions (although I hope we won't end up covering the same old ground over and over again).

Once it's done, I think it would be an excellent idea to do what you've suggested.

[Interpol Shrimper]

Rich, I think you've been a cracking help today in terms of keeping the peace, but also looking at things in a very sensible way.

I'd like to let the thread continue to run it's course because it's important that people feel they've had a chance to express their opinions (although I hope we won't end up covering the same old ground over and over again).

Once it's done, I think it would be an excellent idea to do what you've suggested.

Cheers mate, glad to be of service!

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Rich, I think you've been a cracking help today in terms of keeping the peace, but also looking at things in a very sensible way.

I'd like to let the thread continue to run it's course because it's important that people feel they've had a chance to express their opinions (although I hope we won't end up covering the same old ground over and over again).

Once it's done, I think it would be an excellent idea to do what you've suggested.

GOOD


Because i think i should have my say!!!!

:whistling:

[steveo]

I'm sure saying that she is ginger is just a bit of tounge in cheek. I recall Southend_Lady saying that she has a fear of ginger people

Ok thanks for clearing that up. So its ok to talk about hair colour but not skin colour, e.g. Blackies, or places of origin e.g. Pakis

[WestRoadShrimper]

Ok thanks for clearing that up. So its ok to talk about hair colour but not skin colour, e.g. Blackies, or places of origin e.g. Pakis

Is that really an/the issue here?

[steveo]

not an issue, but whilst on the subject of posting etiquette, and especially as the thread is specifically for that reason it thought it would be a good idea to find out what is and isnt acceptable.

[Cricko]

not an issue, but whilst on the subject of posting etiquette, and especially as the thread is specifically for that reason it thought it would be a good idea to find out what is and isnt acceptable.

Oh be serious .We are human FFS.. I think the law of thumb is Engage Brain before opening Mouth..

Fairly simple.

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

not an issue, but whilst on the subject of posting etiquette, and especially as the thread is specifically for that reason it thought it would be a good idea to find out what is and isnt acceptable.

What IMO is not acceptable is some of the accusations about Southend United Football players that appeared recently...IMO far more of an issue than Thread diversions

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Oh be serious .We are human FFS.. I think the law of thumb is Engage Brain before opening Mouth..

Fairly simple.

Ow well.....Dave = :zip:

[steveo]

Oh be serious .We are human FFS.. I think the law of thumb is Engage Brain before opening Mouth..

yes fairly simple, but still no answer. Sorry if i appear to be missing something, I only asked a reasonable question

[WestRoadShrimper]

not an issue, but whilst on the subject of posting etiquette, and especially as the thread is specifically for that reason it thought it would be a good idea to find out what is and isnt acceptable.

Joking comments between people that know each other, so probably not a problem. Otherwise IMO just as bad as the alternatives you mention.

[Cricko]

yes fairly simple, but still no answer. Sorry if i appear to be missing something, I only asked a reasonable question

I doubt there is an overall answer.....Lets put this into perspective.....There are 5 owners that give there time and fund the zone with some wonderful contributions from the members....We are human and just fans of SUFC ...If we spent all of our time dissecting every thread and what is right or wrong we would indeed be a sad bunch.. This forum is for the fan's of SUFC all we do is try to keep an equilibrium of sense to it and try to keep a balanced view overall. Feel free if you want to buy it from us and run it yourself, after today I feel most Owners would agree with me .

[loz]

I'm still lost on what to think about this one, largely because I'm feeling rather selfish and simultaneously

a) would be glad to see the back of threads which descend into in-jokes most of us know bugger all about.
b) will miss the opportunity to enter into an impromptu pun-battle: always livened up my day.

rough with the smooth, I suppose. Overall I think the complaints that have been expressed to the mods are more of a minor annoyance than something which requires all this brou-ha-ha (oh yes!), but they are in a difficult position.

[Matt the Shrimp]

If we spent all of our time dissecting every thread and what is right or wrong we would indeed be a sad bunch

Another way of putting the words in bold would be "we would indeed be very quickly unemployed".


Feel free if you want to buy it from us and run it yourself, after today I feel most Owners would agree with me .

Seconded.

[J]

ignore ....

[The General]

What IMO is not acceptable is some of the accusations about Southend United Football players that appeared recently...IMO far more of an issue than Thread diversions

Thats because most of this seasons rumours have ALOT of substance and Tilly giving Maher and Foran the boot has shown that to be the case.

Im not sure what is wrong with you today AS, but you have come across as absolute plank and a very bitter one at that. Im not sure if you have been drinking from the same glass as Flinty, but i would suggest taking a step back, being honest to yourself and waking up. The fella's do a grand job of running the site, its 10 x more organised than it used to be (when people like Naps and Lee ran it :p) so lets try and make it as easy as possible for them.

Kev

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Thats because most of this seasons rumours have ALOT of substance and Tilly giving Maher and Foran the boot has shown that to be the case.

Im not sure what is wrong with you today AS, but you have come across as absolute plank and a very bitter one at that. Im not sure if you have been drinking from the same glass as Flinty, but i would suggest taking a step back, being honest to yourself and waking up. The fella's do a grand job of running the site, its 10 x more organised than it used to be (when people like Naps and Lee ran it :p) so lets try and make it as easy as possible for them.

Kev

Nothing wrong with me today apart from what i e-mailed you about.

You can sit there and call me names if you want, if that is what level you are at, but ....to be honest it makes you look pretty stupid.

Maybe you should take a step back and start thinking for your self instead of being one of the sheep.

PS...do you want me to lend you some sun glasses for the next time any of the mods bend over???

[sufcintheprem]

BTW, for the record I couldn't give a rats ass who posts what and where on the board. I feel I can judge for myself what I do and don't want to read on threads, if a thread diverts then fine, just stop reading it if you're not interested.

Not saying the position taken by the owners is wrong, it's how a message board should run, however it's all been blown way out of proportion by certain quarters!

The Pub is The Pub, conversations will wander!

Posts like this from Monsieur B

and this:



Is this the time to mention my posters wives section I wonder?

from Monsieur the Shrimper are the reasons why they are my top repped posters. I don't come on here for a chat and I don't come on here to antagonise. I come on here increasingly because of Slipperduke's slippery column but also because every once in a while, a thread like this makes me laugh.

Laughter = rep in my book. Don't know what = red cos I haven't done that since the big reset.

[OldBlueLady]

Having had a bit of time for pause and reflection, I'm coming round to the idea that maybe this is a bit of a generation gap issue here, and that it is, in the main, those male posters in their 20s who have had issues over the deviation, innuendo and "in jokes" between apparent cliques of posters who are (in the main) older than them. It might be my imagination but it seems that there has been no issues raised when the younger ladies - you all know who I mean - come on and indulge in a bit of flirtatious fun.

Things have run away with themselves this week, I admit, and I know I'm culpable but because I work in a school, and we're on school holidays I've been on here much more than normal so the opportunities have been greater.

No-one has ever sent me a pm to say they have a problem with any post I've ever made, and that is what I find so annoying about this whole episode. Even those who have, apparently, an issue with me have never sent me a pm to discuss a post before yesterday.

In the cold, clear light of a new day I still feel hurt and aggrieved however, I accept the Famous 5 were caught between a rock and a hard place yesterday and needed to do something. There is nothing wrong with the statement that was issued at the top of this thread, but guys, I wish you'd have thought to send those other offenders and I a pm or two to let us know we were out of line and generating complaints.

Like Rich said, and I backed up a little later, your statement should be placed as a sticky at the top of all forums, with a closed response - at least then there will be no excuse for posters not being aware.

[South Bank Hank]

As a group, we took the decision to not mention names, but just publish a policy with clear rules and clear reasons why. No individuals have been singled out, and the rules apply equally to everybody.

As other Mods and owners have mentioned, we have limited amounts of time which we give up freely and we would prefer nothing more than to just log on to the Zone and contribute the same way as everyone else.

We could spend time PMing individuals, but you can see from this thread how much argument and debate it leads too. The bottom line in all this, is that the rules stand and they are not up for debate.

The thread is now closed as it's time to move on.

(When this thread falls off of the first page, a new clean version will be pinned as a sticky for a limited time)