Freddy Shepherd

[sufcintheprem]

On the BBC there is an article with excerpts from Freddy Shepherd's comments on the future of professional football in England. How can someone in his position be so damn ignorant?

The long and the short of what he's said is that there is no future for 92 professional teams because the top flight teams "should not be concerned with those struggling at the lower end". Who does this guy think he is? How are Newcastle concerned with supporting us.

Surely he must be aware of the structural changes being enforced in the lower leagues with the eventual goal of putting clubs in a position where they should be able to turn a profit. Given the choice, clearly, I would much rather watch Southend than Newcastle and if Southend ever went out of business, I don't know what I would do.

That said, how realistic is it that our club would go out of business? Clearly, we have had a few close scrapes but never underestimate the power of supporters. Lower league football is very much a niche market with an almost friendly relationship between staff and fans in contrast to the Premier$hite draw of anonymity. If it came down to it, and this worries me, I couldn't say how much I would put in to the club to keep it going.

I can't believe such a significant figure in football fails to realis this.

[Hockley_Blues]

The article is here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4051543.stm).

What a total prat he is. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[TerryintheWest]

Isn't he there because of his old man's money. If I ruled the world, I'd have him taken out and shot. After I'd dealt with Tony Blair and James Brown! *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Leyton Orienteer]

Yep, I think we can all agree that he is a first class tw*t...

What you got against James Brown anyway?

[Ron Manager]

To quote Max from 'Max and Paddy' - 'How dare you!'

Do not diss the Godfather Of Soul, he's a legend!

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[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (TerryintheWest @ Nov. 30 2004,00:52)]Isn't he there because of his old man's money. If I ruled the world, I'd have him taken out and shot. After I'd dealt with Tony Blair and James Brown! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Gordon Brown possibly seems more appropriate in the sentence.

Certainly can't have a problem with JB

[Spaceman Spiff]

Janet Street-Porter, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Jacques Chirac would be next for the chop... http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Getting back to the footy, Freddy Shepherd has always been a (sadly misguided) self-important twit and doesn't exactly command respect. Anyone remember his and his colleagues' comments about girls from Newcastle?

Read my lips, Fat Freddy, it wont happen - if it does, it'll be over your dead body.

[Smudger]

TerryintheWest
Posted: Nov. 30 2004,00:52

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Isn't he there because of his old man's money. If I ruled the world, I'd have him taken out and shot. After I'd dealt with Tony Blair and James Brown!

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Let me explain this one.....

TerryIntheWest spent his youth in Memphis and apparently had a bit of a rumble in a bar with The Godfather of Soul in 1964 over a woman. JB was getting deep down and dirty with Tel's missus in a frankly unacceptable manner. Right there, Terry gave him the option:

"Cut that sliding crap out right now or you're going down with the Rochdale."

JB wouldn't leave it hence Big Tel had no choice but to teach the Soul Legend an old fashioned lesson with a dry slaaaaaap outside in the car park.

[gazzacat42]

Newcastle best fans in the world, and always filling St James Park.
Like f**k they used to get crap crowds, and with idiots like FS in charge, let us hope a relegation beckons.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Spaceman Spiff @ Nov. 30 2004,11:22)]Janet Street-Porter, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Jacques Chirac would be next for the chop... *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Read my lips, Fat Freddy, it wont happen - if it does, it'll be over your dead body.
Oi, Genghis... I knew you'd be on here, spitting rage and bile as usual...

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[Firestorm]

Someone ought to remind him where his team was on New years day 1992, and how close Newcastle were to going the way of Sheffield Wednesday....

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Firestorm @ Nov. 30 2004,13:33)]Someone ought to remind him where his team was on New years day 1992, and how close Newcastle were to going the way of Sheffield Wednesday....
Or how the massed ranks of the Toon Army... all 15,000 of them... came to watch our trip to St. James's Park.

The man is clearly a total arse. Suddenly, I'd really like to see them drop out of the top flight...

Matt

[TerryintheWest]

Quote[/b] ]TerryIntheWest spent his youth in Memphis

Unfortunately I've never been to The Bluff City but if I had why would I have run into (nice thought) "The Godfather of Soul" aka "The Minister of the New Super Heavy Funk" What a load of old cobblers (southend link!) these titles are, worse than Paul Whiteman calling himself "The King of Jazz" Put him on my list too!*http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[TerryintheWest]

There's only one title that I'd accept and that's Bessie Smith as "The Empress of the Blues" *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Matt the Shrimp]

Surely Mark Knopfler is "The Sultan of Swing"....

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[Spaceman Spiff]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 30 2004,13:19)]Quote[/b] (Spaceman Spiff @ Nov. 30 2004,11:22)]Janet Street-Porter, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Jacques Chirac would be next for the chop... *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Read my lips, Fat Freddy, it wont happen - if it does, it'll be over your dead body.
Oi, Genghis... I knew you'd be on here, spitting rage and bile as usual...

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Since Genghis means 'Supreme King', I'll take that as a compliment shall I? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

What about Leeds Utd, W@nk-Ham Utd & Sheffield Weds in lower division http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif - how he can "Small Clubs don't count" & think most of League One & Two clubs go part time as most of our Conference clubs are full-time. Why can he p*** off - if I has an chance I would kick his b***s!

I suppose he forgetten the years that Southend beat his sad team 4-0 in Jan 1992 http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Spaceman Spiff @ Nov. 30 2004,14:16)]Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 30 2004,13:19)]Oi, Genghis... I knew you'd be on here, spitting rage and bile as usual...
Since Genghis means 'Supreme King', I'll take that as a compliment shall I?
*$£%...

I meant Atilla. Damn you, smarty pants.

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And no, I should have thought that the "spitting rage and bile" was pretty clear evidence that I wasn't being complimentary....

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[Shrimper Zoo]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 30 2004,13:35)]Or how the massed ranks of the Toon Army... all 15,000 of them... came to watch our trip to St. James's Park.
That's a gross misrepresentation Matt and you know it.

It was some way short of 15,000. The crowd, I'm sure they announced, was 14,000 and something and if you take away the Southend contingent of 14 people, 2 parrots and a tin of salmon you have even less.

But hey, next season it was way over 30,000 of those ever so loyal, never ever ever miss a game, totally fanatical geordie army. Such a bunch of cheapskates they won't even buy colour shirts.

Dirty black & white scum.

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ Nov. 30 2004,18:29)]Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 30 2004,13:35)]Or how the massed ranks of the Toon Army... all 15,000 of them... came to watch our trip to St. James's Park.
That's a gross misrepresentation Matt and you know it.

It was some way short of 15,000. *The crowd, I'm sure they announced, was 14,000 and something and if you take away the Southend contingent of 14 people, 2 parrots and a tin of salmon you have even less.

But hey, next season it was way over 30,000 of those ever so loyal, never ever ever miss a game, totally fanatical geordie army. *Such a bunch of cheapskates they won't even buy colour shirts.

Dirty black & white scum.
Hello, Sunderland fan here and you're right fat freddie shepherd is a total c**t (from my unbiased opinion of course). I agree with the lad that said "let's hope the black and white *******s go down" or words to that effect.

[dox]

U bunch of sad of to**ers, you really are. Fair enough Fat Fred is a total arse and thats from a toon fan, but to have the never ending dig at us for coming back with a vengance and re-lighting the North East with a decent club is getting old now.

IF and its a big bloody IF, your club actually made it to a decent league and the fans (not came back coz you got none), but you got some more would anyone hold it against you?

And as for that mackem pile of crap, 40k in the EPL, and now an AVG att of 25k, where did all your fans fuk off to? Back to the gutters thats where. Go have a bath scum.

[Javea Shrimper]

Evening vicar ...

WS

Quote[/b] (dox @ Nov. 30 2004,19:47)]U bunch of sad of to**ers, you really are. Fair enough Fat Fred is a total arse and thats from a toon fan, but to have the never ending dig at us for coming back with a vengance and re-lighting the North East with a decent club is getting old now.

IF and its a big bloody IF, your club actually made it to a decent league and the fans (not came back coz you got none), but you got some more would anyone hold it against you?

And as for that mackem pile of crap, 40k in the EPL, and now an AVG att of 25k, where did all your fans fuk off to? Back to the gutters thats where. Go have a bath scum.
So black and white knob, are you really 12 year old or did you just never complete English at school? And I don't know how you dare say we have fans that are part time when you're attendences pre-'92 were absolutely f**king terrible. On top of this, you have seen many more quality players at the landfill you call St. James than we have at the SOL or Roker Park over recent years so this is where you get your "fans" from.

Last season we (Sunderland) saw our team lose in the play-off semi final on penalties in a sh*te league with admittedly average players and we clapped and cheered our players off the pitch in the last game of the season. Alternatively last season you (Newcastle if you need reminding) saw your team qualify for a european tournament with a lot of quality players and when it came to the last day of the season, all that could be heard was boo's. Even the players walk around the pitch was only watched by your proper fans (i.e. probably not you) which equates to around 25,000 people.

by the way what about in the 19th century when Sunderland AFC agreed to have 3 matches at St. James' for your struggling (at the time) club? If we hadn't have done that (which Fat Fred implies in his speach saying clubs should look after themselves) your lot might not even have a club to support.

By the way, I forgot to add, I look forward to Sounness taking you down you barcoded scum.

[Javea Shrimper]

Barcoded scum?! Love it!!!

WS

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[Hockley_Blues]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ Nov. 30 2004,21:24)]By the way, I forgot to add, I look forward to Sounness taking you down you barcoded scum.
I'm sorry but that last line had me in stitches http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

How dare you denegrate one of the top 8 clubs in the world?http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?///////////

We who had huge crowds like 7,900 against Norwich

And just before we were re-founded as NUFC1992
got 14,000 the week before St. Keegan came as manager

And as a super-club have won absolutely jack-sh*t in 50 year

[Southendsleeper]

Quote[/b] (dox @ Nov. 30 2004,19:47)]U bunch of sad of to**ers, you really are. Fair enough Fat Fred is a total arse and thats from a toon fan, but to have the never ending dig at us for coming back with a vengance and re-lighting the North East with a decent club is getting old now.
What? Middlesborough?

[Southendsleeper]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ Nov. 30 2004,19:51)]Evening vicar ...

WS
Hehehe

[wowsouthendisfullofchavs]

What a complete twaghead. I actually hope he dies of a heart attack. He has actually gained the hatred of 72 clubs fans, the massive Jehovah. **** off, ****.

[footymad13]

Haha, Iv seen it all now, we have gone from arguing with Orient, to rucking with a Sunderland fan.

FWIW, Lets face it, the club has been full of corruption and sleaze. The guy is a total c**t and i hope he finds himself in the 2nd division having to take his seat in the luxury surroundings of Plainmoor. w***er.

Fat Fred = Scum = Newcastle

FACT!

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Hello lads and lasses.

Your thread has found it's way onto the Sunderland message board the SMB and as you can imagine this topic has created some interesting debate since yesterday evening.

The black and whites on the whole condemn Fat Freddies words, but a stuborn few refuse to be critical of their lord and master.

I thought a little history lesson would be useful;

September 7th 1892
February 25th 1893
April 12th 1893

Do these dates mean anything to anybody (particularly NJS)?

No thought not.

These were the dates of the 3 benefit matches played by Sunderland at St James Park shortly after Newcastle East End moved into the ground of the, bankrupt club Newcastle West End and changed their name to Newcastle United.

The newly named club was struggling financially due to the fact that the old West End fans refused to follow their once bitter rivals and the East End fans were upset that their team had been moved out of their traditional heartland.

Sunderland were English Champions at that point in time and had invitations to appear at financially lucrative benefits far and wide. They chose however to forgo their share of the gate receipts for these three games which attracted 6000, 7000 and 2000 respectively. The first 2 of these were particularly decent gates for that period and very large by United’s standards.

These games were an awful long time ago and will have no place in the history of our neighbours as they were ‘pre-keegan’, however the moral behind Sunderland’s decision to play is timeless.

Those of a black and white persuasion should perhaps consider the fact that had the current Sunderland board in 1892/1893 had similar views to the current chairman of Newcastle United, there may not even be a Newcastle United to be chairman of.

Some 60 odd years later Newcastle had the opportunity to return a North East favour when Gateshead applied for re-election for the first and only time in their history.

Newcastle United were the only North East club to vote against them.[I]

The fans of everbody's second favourite club were moved by my points and were quick to point out that I am a sad bitter tw*t.

Well, I would rather be a sad bitter tw*t than a fan of a club which is run by one.

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ Dec. 01 2004,00:17)]Hello lads and lasses.

Your thread has found it's way onto the Sunderland message board the SMB and as you can imagine this topic has created some interesting debate since yesterday evening.

The black and whites on the whole condemn Fat Freddies words, but a stuborn few refuse to be critical of their lord and master.

I thought a little history lesson would be useful;


No wonder you feel a little antipathy to them!

Very interesting post. Sadly Fat Freddie is only interested in the size of his bank account, where the next foreign brothel is, and slagging off the fans he purports to praise for being so thick as to pay over the odds for shirts which, as has been so ably pointed out already, aren't even in colour.

[Beefy]

hahaha

I can't believe we've got Sunderland and Newcastle fans bickering ina thread on a Southend message board. Brilliance.

Nice history lesson, tynevalleyblackcat. I'll be sure to regurgitate it to the Newcastle fans I've had this conversation with. Or I might just do what I susually do when I talk to Newcastle fans and just say &quot;4-0&quot; over and over again....

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ Dec. 01 2004,00:17)]Your thread has found it's way onto the Sunderland message board the SMB and as you can imagine this topic has created some interesting debate since yesterday evening.
Fame at last!

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All we need now is someone to plant this on a Newcastle messageboard and we won't be able to get a word in edgeways about a fine 2-0 win away from home!!!!

[Matt the Shrimp]

All very interesting - especially the stuff about Newcastle voting against Gateshead's re-election. But now no-longer specifically relevant to the Shrimpers... so it's being moved to the All Leagues Chit-Chat forum.

Barcodes - classic. Everyone's second favourite team... my arse!

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[sufcintheprem]

Just posted a lovely comment on the SMB and we'll see what the reaction is. I'm quite proud of it. It's one of my better works

More Toon caning (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/viewtopic.php?p=1305841#1305841)

[Firestorm]

IIRC Keegan , around the time of his famous spat with Ferguson said something along the lines of &quot;People should remeber, when I arrived our Rivals were Southend United not Manchester United&quot; slightly incorrect as we were 15 or so places higher than them at the time but still worth repeating.

There is STILL a SMB putting 2-1 on his posts...

AFTER ALL THIS TIME. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sad c**t!

A bit like Fat Fred and his ridiculous statements really.

[Upminster Blue]

Quote[/b] (Shrimper Zoo @ Nov. 30 2004,18:29)]Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 30 2004,13:35)]Or how the massed ranks of the Toon Army... all 15,000 of them... came to watch our trip to St. James's Park.
That's a gross misrepresentation Matt and you know it.

It was some way short of 15,000. *The crowd, I'm sure they announced, was 14,000 and something and if you take away the Southend contingent of 14 people, 2 parrots and a tin of salmon you have even less.

But hey, next season it was way over 30,000 of those ever so loyal, never ever ever miss a game, totally fanatical geordie army. *Such a bunch of cheapskates they won't even buy colour shirts.

Dirty black &amp; white scum.
There was actually a good 500 Southend fans there that night so the home support was less than 14,000.

What Shepperd forgets is that us non-Premier$hite fans are forced to subsidy Premier$hite clubs through our Sky Sports subscriptions. Personally I only subsecribe for the non-Prem football, cricket and golf. If I could get rid of the Prem coverage (for a discount) I would without a moments hesitation, as I'm sure many people would. Where would that leave idiots like Shepperd?

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[Upminster Blue]

Quote[/b] (dox @ Nov. 30 2004,19:47)]IF and its a big bloody IF, your club actually made it to a decent league
Your really don't get what supporting a smaller club is all about do you?

Moron.

Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ Nov. 29 2004,21:22)]On the BBC there is an article with excerpts from Freddy Shepherd's comments on the future of professional football in England. *How can someone in his position be so damn ignorant?

The long and the short of what he's said is that there is no future for 92 professional teams because the top flight teams &quot;should not be concerned with those struggling at the lower end&quot;. *Who does this guy think he is? *How are Newcastle concerned with supporting us.

Surely he must be aware of the structural changes being enforced in the lower leagues with the eventual goal of putting clubs in a position where they should be able to turn a profit. *Given the choice, clearly, I would much rather watch Southend than Newcastle and if Southend ever went out of business, I don't know what I would do.

That said, how realistic is it that our club would go out of business? *Clearly, we have had a few close scrapes but never underestimate the power of supporters. *Lower league football is very much a niche market with an almost friendly relationship between staff and fans in contrast to the Premier$hite draw of anonymity. *If it came down to it, and this worries me, I couldn't say how much I would put in to the club to keep it going.

I can't believe such a significant figure in football fails to realis this.
As a Mackem (well, near enough - I'm actually a Woolyback), the comments that have eminated from the Geordies up in Newcastle over the years have provided us with endless entertainment:

&quot;We'll love it when we beat them, just love it!!!&quot; - Kevin Keegone about Man. Utd. as they through away a twelve point lead over them.

Freddy Shepherd and his sidekick Douglas Hall referred to Geordie lasses as &quot;Newcastle Dogs&quot; and Alan Shearer as a &quot;Mary Poppins&quot; in a coke and alcohol fuelled scene in front of a secret press camera when on the lash in Spain. They also said that the Geordies were so thick you could flog them anything, for example, the Newcastle strips were made for pennies but flogged for £40 a time. They resigned as directors but were back in a matter of months being the major shareholders.

Freddy Sheperd, does he learn - not likely, as it was leaked to press that he and Man. Utd.'s Martin Edwards were caught with a prostitute in Basle after a Man. Utd. Chapion's League match there. So you must be into dogs Freddy.

They also managed to **** off a substantial number of their fans when they started up their Platinum Club, a premium rate scheme for corporate spectators. 2,000 fans who'd sat in the same seats for years were shafted in the process and kicked out to another part of St. James with inferior views.

And of course there was the 'Geordie Nation' banner of Douglas's father Sir John Hall who spent a fortune trying to buy up a whole whack of other sports sides (Rugby [Newcastle Gosforth], and nicked from the Mackems an Ice Hockey Team [Durham] and a basketball team [Sunderland]) to create a Newcastle United Sporting Club. The whole thing made a spectacular loss with only the Rugby venture being viable. The rest was flogged off for the total sum of £1.

It is only a few years ago since Mr. Freddy Shepherd tried to buy out Hartlepool United to use as a feeder team for Newcastle United, saying in the process that it was a way of saving small clubs from financial extinction. So with his latest comment about the big teams not getting involved in propping up the smaller clubs, he's managed to shoot himself in the foot again...

...this the club with a revolving door on the manager's office. This the club where the dressing room is controlled by what has to be the most overrated squad in English football at this moment in time. And we've all seen what this squad get's up to in it's spare time in the tabloids (not mentioning certain hotels or pop stars).

This is the Newcastle United who's spending on players goes easily into 9 figures - what have they won for all their efforts, yes, sweet FA. Newcastle, big club my arse...

...Sunderland may be in the Championship, but at least we haven't Freddy Sheperd as managing director. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ian (alias 'Beefy')

[Sonic Attack]

Freddy Sheepherd is an arsehole of the lowest order.Whoever we support from our scumbag division, we should all make sure this cretin is given a large piece of our collective mind about his moronic views. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Oiii , Beefy , you rant on about the behaviour of some Newcastle players but tell the nice Southend people what some Mackem players got up to recently.
You remember surely, 3 of them SHOOTING AT PEOPLE from a car. Very convenient that you forgot to mention that innit!

If NUFC have spent and wasted so much money how come they are not the ones who nearly went to the wall a few months ago. They may have spent a lot but you lot wern't far behind in your &quot;quest&quot; to try and keep pace with them.

By the way when was the last time you beat NUFC on your own ground? 1980 was it.... http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

SMB is quite apt for you deckchair kitted to**ers.