Forgotten hero's... [Archive]

pboreham

16-01-2004, 01:06 PM

I make the line up so far then:-

GK
RB - Hone
CB - McNally (did anyone really not like him?! Thought he was class)
CB - Dublin
LB

RM - Julian Hails
CM - Andy Sussex
CM
LM

FW - Jeroen Boere
FW - Domonic I-awful

I've added Hails & Sussex from my own list. The stick Sussex used to get (whilst probably deserved! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) was a bit harsh. I remember him pinging a 40 yd cross field ball to feet once and me and my mate stood up and clapped and said adoringly "Andy Sussex" - only to look round and see everyone looking at us http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

We still give players an "Andy Sussex" today for outstanding contributions...

Come on, complete the team...

Matt the Shrimp

16-01-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,13:01)]Hey - I liked Boere too... so he was sh*tty to us when he left - does any player really care for its club/supporters?!
The **** was sh*tty when he was here too. *If one balanced, in the one hand, his talent and his wages with, in the other hand, his lack of effort and mediocre return of goals (14, I think, when in Div 2), it is hard to think of a player who has ever given less and been a bigger waste of money in the history of this football club.

He was a Premier / Div 1 player in terms of ability, on (at least) £3,500 a week, and yet he only got 14 goals in Divison 2. *He totally sums up the club's malaise at that time, is totally symptomatic of why we're in the total and utter sh*te we're in at the moment.

And whilst his attitude at the club was dreadful, his attitude afterwards was a total and utter disgrace. *Calling us "sad w***ers" after we'd sent our heartfelt comiserations to him - well, the man is scum, he's a ****.

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Rant over.

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steveh1510

16-01-2004, 01:16 PM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,13:06)]CB - McNally (did anyone really not like him?! Thought he was class)
Me too....

Liked him, that is....

Leeboy

16-01-2004, 01:25 PM

I thought everyone loved Andy Sussex as well..............

Firestorm

16-01-2004, 01:37 PM

I liked Sussex , but Mcnally (sh*tball) and Hone (End of Move) were poor,

That said the player who was poor in Div 1 could do it for us at the minute.

Andy Thomson and gary Jones were disliked as well, Although I rated Thomson...

pboreham

16-01-2004, 01:49 PM

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Jan. 16 2004,13:09)]
Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,13:01)]Hey - I liked Boere too... so he was sh*tty to us when he left - does any player really care for its club/supporters?!
The **** was sh*tty when he was here too. *If one balanced, in the one hand, his talent and his wages with, in the other hand, his lack of effort and mediocre return of goals (14, I think, when in Div 2), it is hard to think of a player who has ever given less and been a bigger waste of money in the history of this football club.

He was a Premier / Div 1 player in terms of ability, on (at least) £3,500 a week, and yet he only got 14 goals in Divison 2. *He totally sums up the club's malaise at that time, is totally symptomatic of why we're in the total and utter sh*te we're in at the moment.

And whilst his attitude at the club was dreadful, his attitude afterwards was a total and utter disgrace. *Calling us "sad w***ers" after we'd sent our heartfelt comiserations to him - well, the man is scum, he's a ****.

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Matt
I've never seen a post from you so irate MtS so, I'll take your word on hating Boere!

Maybe though, the "Sad w***er" comment may have been said with tongue in cheek? I do believe he had just had his eye stabbed out, so he probably wasnt 100% together dont you think? http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

McScriven

16-01-2004, 01:59 PM

Regis Colbalt

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:03 PM

Ben Abbey

Leeboy

16-01-2004, 02:06 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,14:03)]Ben Abbey
but he was'nt hated?

surely not after bagging a brace against Orient at their place?

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:07 PM

Quote[/b] (Leeboy @ Jan. 16 2004,14:06)]
Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,14:03)]Ben Abbey
but he was'nt hated?

surely not after bagging a brace against Orient at their place?
I didn't think so either, but having made a comment about him on here a few months back, I got shot down saying everyone thought he was sh*te..... http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:16 PM

I'll certainly give you Regis Coulbalt, though I dont think he is as "Hated to Love" as much as some...

Also, I dont think Ben Abbey is good enough to make this team! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

GK
RB - Hone
CB - McNally (did anyone really not like him?! Thought he was class)
CB - Dublin
LB

RM - Julian Hails
CM - Andy Sussex
CM - Regis Coubalt
LM

FW - Jeroen Boere
FW - Domonic I-awfull

'Keeper and left side then...

Neville Southall? cr*p, but a legend...

Damon Searle? I hated him, but many liked - maybe too many for this team.

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:18 PM

Could have a tactical shuffle - Dubbers to LB, Sussex to CB and Kevin Maher into midfield http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:18 PM

Why is Julian Hails there? Did that many hate him?

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,14:18)]Why is Julian Hails there? Did that many hate him?
Dunno - I thought he was OK, but remember him taking loads of stick...

Any other suggestions?

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:20 PM

Did anyone actually like Adam Locke? I dont want this team to be full of sh*t...

McScriven

16-01-2004, 02:24 PM

Ben Abbey was poo. Arrogant and a cr*p striker he missed so many easy chances than the 11 he scored. Justshows you that players always ned up at their rightful level, Ben's being the Dr Martin's Premier somewhere.

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:24 PM

As for GK, I'm not sure there have been that many that have actually been hated, but a few suggestions.....

Danny Gay
Martyn Margetson
Mel Capleton
Andy Woodman

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:25 PM

Quote[/b] (McScriven @ Jan. 16 2004,14:24)]Ben Abbey was poo. Arrogant and a cr*p striker he missed so many easy chances than the 11 he scored. Justshows you that players always ned up at their rightful level, Ben's being the Dr Martin's Premier somewhere.
There you go Lee, told you! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:27 PM

Adrian Clarke....

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:32 PM

GK - Mel Capleton (enough people liked him... not me)
RB - Mark Hone
CB - Mark McNally (did anyone really not like him?! Thought he was class)
CB - Andy Sussex
LB - Keith Dublin

RM - Julian Hails
CM - Kevin Maher
CM - Regis Coubalt
LM - Adrian Clarke

FW - Jeroen Boere
FW - Domonic I-awfull

Hmmm... not bad - well done chaps.

Matt the Shrimp

16-01-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,13:49)]I've never seen a post from you so irate MtS so, I'll take your word on hating Boere!

Maybe though, the "Sad w***er" comment may have been said with tongue in cheek? I do believe he had just had his eye stabbed out, so he probably wasnt 100% together dont you think? *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Perhaps... nah, sod it, no - I'm not feeling that charitable.

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Matt

Matt the Shrimp

16-01-2004, 02:48 PM

The side is slightly confusing... this is a "most people liked but I, oddly, hated" team, isn't it?

I mean, it's not a rubbish XI... we can usually agree on that! (e.g. Connelly on the right, Livett on the left etc.)

Surely Dangerous Dave Morley should be in the side instead of McNally? *Some liked (even adored in the case of Mrs. Milkey) him, most thought he was a bit of a nightmare.

Matt

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Jan. 16 2004,14:48)]The side is slightly confusing... this is a "most people liked but I, oddly, hated" team, isn't it?

I mean, it's not a rubbish XI... we can usually agree on that! (e.g. Connelly on the right, Livett on the left etc.)

Surely Dangerous Dave Morley should be in the side instead of McNally? *Some liked (even adored in the case of Mrs. Milkey) him, most thought he was a bit of a nightmare.

Matt
No, its the other way round - 'most people hated, but I, oddly, liked'.....

pboreham

16-01-2004, 02:56 PM

MtS, this isnt the be-all-and-end-all. I'm certainly open to suggestions.

Your right, its a fine line - I didnt want it to be a rubbish XI - I can see with a front line of Boere/Iorfa it can look that way...

Napster

16-01-2004, 03:24 PM

A lot of people disliked Royce for a while...rubbish kicker.

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 03:28 PM

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:24)]A lot of people disliked Royce for a while...rubbish kicker.
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Napster

16-01-2004, 03:31 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:28)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:24)]A lot of people disliked Royce for a while...rubbish kicker.
I think that says more about Southend fans than it does Royce *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Not at all-when he first started playing he wasnt all that.

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:31)]
Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:28)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:24)]A lot of people disliked Royce for a while...rubbish kicker.
I think that says more about Southend fans than it does Royce *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Not at all-when he first started playing he wasnt all that.
Granted, but someone must have seen some potential there....

Napster

16-01-2004, 03:37 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:35)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:31)]
Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:28)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:24)]A lot of people disliked Royce for a while...rubbish kicker.
I think that says more about Southend fans than it does Royce *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Not at all-when he first started playing he wasnt all that.
Granted, but someone must have seen some potential there....
maybe a few. But most of us wanted Sammy back.

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pboreham

16-01-2004, 03:37 PM

That someone... Barry Fry - mosted hated to be loved manager?

Napster

16-01-2004, 03:38 PM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,15:37)]That someone... Barry Fry - mosted hated to be loved manager?
never heard of him,

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 03:40 PM

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:37)]maybe a few. But most of us wanted Sammy back.

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Wasn't a simple swap between the two though IIRC, Roycie had some time as number two, and Sammy was pushing on a bit - It just seemed the right time, Sammy was almost to old, and Roycie was at the point when he was old enough to need first team football.

pboreham

16-01-2004, 03:44 PM

It came in that golden-haze where every decision seemed to be the right one after Fry arrived.... how the (almost) mighty have fallen...???

Napster

16-01-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:40)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:37)]maybe a few. But most of us wanted Sammy back.

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Wasn't a simple swap between the two though IIRC, Roycie had some time as number two, and Sammy was pushing on a bit - It just seemed the right time, Sammy was almost to old, and Roycie was at the point when he was old enough to need first team football.
it wasnt a simple swap when everyone could see Royce struggling with his kicking...

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pboreham

16-01-2004, 03:46 PM

blimey, not bitter are you Napster http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

steveh1510

16-01-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:45)]it wasnt a simple swap when everyone could see Royce struggling with his kicking...

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Methinks we'll have to agree to disagree here Naps, I think they were both quality keepers.

Napster

16-01-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 16 2004,15:56)]
Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 16 2004,15:45)]it wasnt a simple swap when everyone could see Royce struggling with his kicking...

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Methinks we'll have to agree to disagree here Naps, I think they were both quality keepers.
I never said he wasn't a quality keeper. But when he started, his kicking was awful.

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pboreham

16-01-2004, 04:14 PM

Can't remember it costing us any goals? May of been a bit nerveracking, but still probably the best keeper we've ever had...

Andy_S

17-01-2004, 09:56 PM

Michael Black.

He had a huge amount of talent, just lacked the fitness. If we'd have let him have the summer to get fit instead of releasing him, i'm sure he could've done a really good job for us that season.

Beefy

19-01-2004, 03:59 PM

I can't believe that there isn't a place in this team for Phil Gridelet. I used to love the guy, but everyone else hated him.

footymad13

19-01-2004, 07:36 PM

Simon Royce
Barrington Belgrave

The General

19-01-2004, 10:32 PM

Scott Houghton

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steveh1510

20-01-2004, 08:24 AM

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Jan. 19 2004,19:36)]Simon Royce
How many Shrimpers fans do you know that hated Simon Royce?

* ORM *

20-01-2004, 08:35 AM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 16 2004,13:06)]I've added Hails & Sussex
Andy Sussex - scorer of one of the few goals against SUFC that I've been forced to clap.

I hate to point out the blindingly obvious to the youth but a) this is a first division cr*ppy player thread and b) last time Royce played for us most of you were in nappies (some still are !)

Leeboy

20-01-2004, 08:38 AM

none of us remember Pre-War players gaffer http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Andy_S

20-01-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 20 2004,08:24)]
Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Jan. 19 2004,19:36)]Simon Royce
How many Shrimpers fans do you know that hated Simon Royce?
Yeah, explain yourself FM. http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Hawkwell Shrimper

20-01-2004, 04:40 PM

Adrian Clarke!

pboreham

21-01-2004, 06:59 AM

Grids comes straight into the first XI - exactly the right player for this team... http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Houghton makes the bench - good shout. Who was his 'special friend?'

GK - Mel Capleton (enough people liked him... not me)
RB - Mark Hone
CB - Mark McNally (did anyone really not like him?! Thought he was class)
CB - Andy Sussex
LB - Keith Dublin

RM - Julian Hails
CM - Kevin Maher
CM - Phil Gridelet
LM - Adrian Clarke

FW - Jeroen Boere
FW - Domonic I-awfull

SUBS:

Regis Coulbalt
Scott Houghton

Andy_S

21-01-2004, 03:07 PM

I liked Sada N'Diaye, for the pure fact it was different to say that we had a Senegalese International up front. I don't think i ever saw him play though. Was he as bad as some of you have said before?

steveh1510

21-01-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Jan. 21 2004,15:07)]Was he as bad as some of you have said before?
Yes!

Andy_S

21-01-2004, 03:11 PM

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Jan. 21 2004,15:08)]
Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Jan. 21 2004,15:07)]Was he as bad as some of you have said before?
Yes!
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21-01-2004, 11:37 PM

As you're struggling, may I suggest someone who loved himself but surely we all hated?

Phil Gridelet........

xx

Javea Shrimper

22-01-2004, 09:51 AM

Steve Phillips

Andy Polycarpou

WS

Smudger

22-01-2004, 10:54 AM

Gary "Psycho" Bennett

Beefy

22-01-2004, 01:22 PM

I still can't believe that Mark McNally is in this team. I always thought he was a good player. Apart from when his foot seemed to disappear whilst trying to stop a shot on the goal-line in the 5-2 against Bolton....

Surely there are other defenders who were hated by as many as they were loved. Phil Whelan....?

pboreham

23-01-2004, 10:07 AM

Quote[/b] (Beefy @ Jan. 22 2004,13:22)]I still can't believe that Mark McNally is in this team. I always thought he was a good player. Apart from when his foot seemed to disappear whilst trying to stop a shot on the goal-line in the 5-2 against Bolton....

Surely there are other defenders who were hated by as many as they were loved. Phil Whelan....?
I know - McNally was class... If anyone comes up with a better (worse?) centre-half I'll stick them in.

Aaahh, 5-2 v Bolton... I can still picture John Nielsens rasping effort. Johnny Nielsen, what a player he was!!

Napster

23-01-2004, 10:24 AM

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ Jan. 22 2004,09:51)]Steve Phillips
What? The man who kept us up with his goals?

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BILLERICAY BLUE

23-01-2004, 12:07 PM

Andy Harris - I never thought he was as bad as everybody made out.
Also Dave Morley. I brought a mate to a home game, he asked me who I thought was any good, I said Morley's not bad. He then proceeded to be at fault for all three goals that we conceded (can't remember the score or the oppo). Needless to say my mate has never let me forget it.

steveh1510

23-01-2004, 12:16 PM

Quote[/b] (BILLERICAY BLUE @ Jan. 23 2004,12:07)]Andy Harris - I never thought he was as bad as everybody made out.
You obviously didn't see the Wycombe game at Adams park 1997(ish), when he was absolutely terrible, we lost 4-1 and he scored a couple of OG's IIRC.....

Never forgave him for one of the worst performances I've ever seen in a Southend shirt.

lordlumpington

23-01-2004, 03:56 PM

Always a fan of Gary Bennett.

Not the most gifted footballer but always gave 100% and mores the point could take a bloody penalty !

Could anyone forget the goals against Spurs(Lineker, Gazza and co ) at the Hall ??

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The General

23-01-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 23 2004,10:07)]Aaahh, 5-2 v Bolton... I can still picture John Nielsens rasping effort. Johnny Nielsen, what a player he was!!
That bloke was a legend. Anyone know what he's up to?!

Kev

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Javea Shrimper

24-01-2004, 09:46 AM

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Jan. 23 2004,10:24)]
Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ Jan. 22 2004,09:51)]Steve Phillips
What? The man who kept us up with his goals?

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Yes. The very same. Why?

WS

The Eternal Optimist

24-01-2004, 05:17 PM

Quote[/b] (The General @ Jan. 23 2004,16:50)]
Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Jan. 23 2004,10:07)]Aaahh, 5-2 v Bolton... I can still picture John Nielsens rasping effort. Johnny Nielsen, what a player he was!!
That bloke was a legend. Anyone know what he's up to?!

Kev

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I reckon he has let his hair grow and became a danish porn star.

30-01-2004, 10:04 PM

Paul Roberts. Total cr*p. Best thing he ever did was to leave. Twice!!

HUMBLEPIE

02-02-2004, 01:34 PM

Quote[/b] (Guest @ Jan. 30 2004,22:04)]Paul Roberts. *Total cr*p. Best thing he ever did was to leave. Twice!!
didn't he leave after helping us gain promotion from the old 4th division in 1987 and if this current bunch showed 50% of the commitment he showed we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

TheLittleGazette

09-02-2004, 11:28 PM

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Jan. 21 2004,15:07)]I liked Sada N'Diaye, for the pure fact it was different to say that we had a Senegalese International up front. I don't think i ever saw him play though. Was he as bad as some of you have said before?
But...made possibly one of the best debuts for an SUFC player - he was amazing at Plymouth, scored and sealed our first away win for what seemed about fifty years. Made the Sky 'Team of the week'

I remember the following Tuesdat we played at Wrexham - he started brilliantly again but when Wrexham noticed he was a danger they kept kicking him and that was that I'm afraid!

Rumour also has it that 'Pepe' once cried in the dressing room at Craven Cottage because it was 'too cold' for him!