Happy Hallowe'en

[Napster]

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At midnight last night in Churchill's they played Thriller By Wacko Jacko. What song would you choose to signify this great day...?

[steveh1510]

So good you had to post it twice?

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ Oct. 31 2003,09:39)]So good you had to post it twice?
Didn't mean to. Something came up called flood control, or something.

[shrimpboy]

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Westcliff Shrimper]

Unfortunately I refuse to take part as the whole concept of All Hallow's Eve has been long, long lost to the encroachment of commercialism and, even worse, Americanism.

Forget the Roman Catholic pause for thought and contemplation before All Saints Day (November 1). This is the day of Samhain on which the ancient Celts not only used to celebrate the year's harvest, but also honoured their dead. In order to appease the wandering spirits they believed roamed at night, the Celtic priests made fires in which they burned sacrifices, made charms, and cast spells. Portions of the Celtic holiday of the dead eventually passed into Christian culture after the Romans conquered the Celts and tried to bring the Celts into the "Christian fold." It eventually became apparent to the church leaders that the Celts, in spite of their conformation to some aspects of Christian culture, were stubbornly sticking with elements of their old religion. So, in the 7th Century AD, the church moved its All Saints' Day, a holiday for honouring early Christian martyrs, from a day in May to November 1, thus associating it with the old Druid death rituals of October 31. By the 10th Century AD, the Catholic Church had added a new holiday, All Souls' Day (November 2), a day set aside to honour all of the dead, not just the early Christian Saints. And the feast of Samhain was lost ...

WS

[McScriven]

These day's it's nothing short of excepted begging.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (McScriven @ Oct. 31 2003,12:32)]These day's it's nothing short of excepted begging.
good point, slightly let down by the wrong words.

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Westcliff Shrimper @ Oct. 31 2003,12:06)]Unfortunately I refuse to take part as the whole concept of All Hallow's Eve has been long, long lost to the encroachment of commercialism and, even worse, Americanism.

Forget the Roman Catholic pause for thought and contemplation before All Saints Day (November 1). This is the day of Samhain on which the ancient Celts not only used to celebrate the year's harvest, but also honoured their dead. In order to appease the wandering spirits they believed roamed at night, the Celtic priests made fires in which they burned sacrifices, made charms, and cast spells. Portions of the Celtic holiday of the dead eventually passed into Christian culture after the Romans conquered the Celts and tried to bring the Celts into the "Christian fold." It eventually became apparent to the church leaders that the Celts, in spite of their conformation to some aspects of Christian culture, were stubbornly sticking with elements of their old religion. So, in the 7th Century AD, the church moved its All Saints' Day, a holiday for honouring early Christian martyrs, from a day in May to November 1, thus associating it with the old Druid death rituals of October 31. By the 10th Century AD, the Catholic Church had added a new holiday, All Souls' Day (November 2), a day set aside to honour all of the dead, not just the early Christian Saints. And the feast of Samhain was lost ...

WS
The feast of Samhain has never really gone away, WS.

Samhain or Samhuinn- 31 October, Eve of 1 November, is the beginning of the Celtic year, the beginning of the season of cold, dearth and darkness. The Celts divided the year into two seasons- light and dark- Mayday (Beltane) was the start of one season, Samhain the other. Samhain means in Scottish Gaelic, the end of summer.

A lot of Celts (especially in the Scottish Highlands) still practise rituals in Celtic folklore mythologies.

[carter_true_blue]

Happy halloween people probley don't mean nothing to anyone now as we older.

I'm going to site out side my house with eggs and throw em at people http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Westcliff Shrimper]

I know. But the whole concept has been drowned by idealistic Christian beliefs that were "forced" upon those who believed in the cycle of Beltane and Samhain. Those who managed to maintain some link with their historical original Celtic past (the Welsh, Scottish, Cornish, etc) do indeed strive to keep the traditions alive. And good on them ...

WS

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Westcliff Shrimper @ Oct. 31 2003,12:43)]I know. But the whole concept has been drowned by idealistic Christian beliefs that were "forced" upon those who believed in the cycle of Beltane and Samhain. Those who managed to maintain some link with their historical original Celtic past (the Welsh, Scottish, Cornish, etc) do indeed strive to keep the traditions alive. And good on them ...

WS
And the French, as well, the Bretons are Celts. Ooh, and some parts of Novia Scotia in Canada.

I blame the Yanks- when there's a Hollywood blockbuster with a crofter as its hero, then maybe more effort will be put into keeping some traditions alive...

[Westcliff Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Oct. 31 2003,12:47)]
Quote[/b] (Westcliff Shrimper @ Oct. 31 2003,12:43)]I know. But the whole concept has been drowned by idealistic Christian beliefs that were "forced" upon those who believed in the cycle of Beltane and Samhain. Those who managed to maintain some link with their historical original Celtic past (the Welsh, Scottish, Cornish, etc) do indeed strive to keep the traditions alive. And good on them ...

WS
And the French, as well, the Bretons are Celts. Ooh, and some parts of Novia Scotia in Canada.
The Celts are also believed to be related somewhat to the Ancient Egyptians, who had equivalents of Beltane and Samhain. Take a look at the druidic head-dress ... it makes some sense ...

WS