Form Question

[* ORM *]

My star solid forward scored a hat-trick on his debut and was MVP for his first four games. Virtually every week since I bought him his form has taken a battering and this week he is down another two.

I'm playing 4-5-1 pressing away and variable tactics at home depending on the opposition whilst training defenders. Are these selections connected with the loss of form of a forward ? I've also dropped the forward this Sunday - good idea or should I re-instate him ?

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Feb. 18 2005,11:02)]I'm playing 4-5-1 pressing
Are you Atkins in disguise...

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HT Form is, so far as I know, done on some complicated HT logarithm that I don't believe is connected with being picked.

If his form is cack, put him in the reserves.

Formation should really only be dictated by whatever you're training. I train strikers, so play 3-4-3. If you're training playmaking, your options are 3-5-2 or 4-5-1. If you're short of decent forwards, play the latter; if you're short of decent defenders, play the former.

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[Shrimpersarmy]

Another question; My players TSI is sliding, some of them make a small rise, but my star midfielder's TSI went down 310 this week from 2060. Many of my other better plays make drops in TSI, although not quite as drastic as this. My coach is reasonably good, so why is this happening and how can i put it right?

Cheers for any help

[Matt the Shrimp]

When form dips, so does TSI. *My goalie is a classic case in point. *During last season, his TSI went as high as 6050, and as low as 3500.

I blame it on the fact that he's Spanish... they're just a bit bloomin' unstable...

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The only players with whom you're going to get big & consistent TSI rises are those whose speciality you're training. Case in point - my young strikers... Gandara - signed last year, TSI of 1000. TSI now - 5,200. Same for Bernardino - TSI up from 1,010 to 4,560.

Finally, players' TSI will dip as they age above 30 yrs old... but that won't necessarily mean that they'll be worse players. Look at my winger, Woo Wai-Son. TSI of 870 when signed... now it's 560. But he's still a 2.5* winger when played Towards Middle, and a 3-3.5* winger when played Normal or offensively.

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[Shrimpersarmy]

So it's likely to go up at some point as well when the players form improves? Most of my players have poor or weak form at the moment so training General this week

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Shrimpersarmy @ Feb. 18 2005,11:36)]so training General this week
Aargh! No, no, no, no, no.

Pick something, and train it. And don't change it - except, maybe, for a spot of close-season stamina or passing training.

Defending, Cross-passing (wingers), Playmaking or Scoring.

Whatever you're training will determine your formation. And then stick with it.

Anything else is a waste of time!

Matt

[Shrimpersarmy]

Haha you can stop tearing your hair out now http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Thanks for the advice.

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Feb. 18 2005,11:19)]Formation should really only be dictated by whatever you're training. *I train strikers, so play 3-4-3. *If you're training playmaking, your options are 3-5-2 or 4-5-1. *If you're short of decent forwards, play the latter; if you're short of decent defenders, play the former.
4-5-1 training defenders hasn't done too badly for me so far http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Am trying to get 5-4-1 experience up in friendlies though not next week.

Forward is duly relegated to reserves but just like Tes I know the quality is there and it will come back to shine some time later this season.

[Bucks_blue]

Is training stamina the only way for it to increase. Or does it go up the more a player plays?

I have some players with seriously bad stamina ratings and I want them to improve but don't want to switch training or risk the drop in form that comes with training stamina.

[Bob Cratchitt]

Stamina training is the only way to increase it!!

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Feb. 18 2005,11:51)]4-5-1 training defenders hasn't done too badly for me so far http://www.shrimperzone.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Am trying to get 5-4-1 experience up in friendlies though not next week.

Forward is duly relegated to reserves but just like Tes I know the quality is there and it will come back to shine some time later this season.
Without wishing to sound too dismissive of a Level VI side, your league placing isn't so crucial this season.

What I mean is that you'd be far better off, I should have thought, playing 5-4-1 immediately in friendlies and league matches in order to max out on training spots. The fact that your experience in 5-4-1 isn't too hot at the moment shouldn't put you off. OK, so your lack of experience with that formation might be a problem initially. But that will only affect you in 3 or 4 matches.

And that's 3 or 4 matches for the sake of a few hundred grand... i.e. the sale price of that extra defender.

I imagine Mr. B - as our leading defender trainer in SZ - would agree...?

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Matt

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Feb. 18 2005,12:53)]Without wishing to sound too dismissive of a Level VI side, your league placing isn't so crucial this season.

What I mean is that you'd be far better off, I should have thought, playing 5-4-1 immediately in friendlies and league matches in order to max out on training spots. *

I imagine Mr. B - as our leading defender trainer in SZ - would agree...?
Agreed, and I've posted earlier that I'm just aiming for top 3 this season.

I'll wait for Mr B's response anyway but I think I'll stick to 4-5-1 for the time being in the league with 5-4-1 in friendlies to bring the experience up before trying it out against a no-hoper in our division.

OK I lose at least 1 training spot per week for a while but I'm happy enough with the trade off that I appear to be getting with supporters, sponsors, TS and confidence.

[Matt the Shrimp]

Fair do's... you're the boss, after all!

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[MrB]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Feb. 18 2005,13:06)]I'll wait for Mr B's response anyway but I think I'll stick to 4-5-1 for the time being in the league with 5-4-1 in friendlies to bring the experience up before trying it out against a no-hoper in our division.
If you've no aspirations for promotion then you're throwing money down the toilet by not playing 5-4-1. If you're worried about not scoring goals you could play 5-3-2 AIM with no wingers, it got me promoted.

Basically, that missing training slot is the difference between turning a passable defender into an excellent. That's about £250k. Can you afford to miss out on that much cash just to keep formation experience up? Certainly won't be made up for by sponsors and supporters. You could easily get 4-5-1 up to solid just by playing it in the off season.