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He'll be missed.
Out of interest, what would people say were the highlights of his 114 caps?
What games will you remember him for? What international matches did he change?
He showed those Andorrans when we beat them 3-0. Didn't know what had hit them.
In fairness to Gerrard, he'd be the first admit he didn't have a great England career - said as much when he got his 100th cap.
Same can be said for Rooney - he'll no doubt overtake Bobby Charlton to become England's top scorer and he's done nothing to justify it in major tournaments. If Charlton had to play the dross that is Andorra and their ilk he'd been in the 100s.
Same can be said for Rooney - he'll no doubt overtake Bobby Charlton to become England's top scorer and he's done nothing to justify it in major tournaments. If Charlton had to play the dross that is Andorra and their ilk he'd been in the 100s.
Rooney was electric in Euro 2004.
Agreed.
The argument some are making that Gerrard can't be an England 'legend' just because he didn't win a WC or EC doesn't really stand up. I don't think having one of those on your CV is necessary to achieve 'legend' status with a national team. For example, Gary Lineker never won anything with England but I'd class him as a legend given the goals he scored and the many great memories he gave us England fans.
And dire in every other tournament since.
Aye. Gerrard isn't an England legend not because he hasn't won anything, but because he's been distinctly ordinary.
That does him a great disservice considering that he's been injured and rushed back for at least half of them, and playing in an underwhelming and inharmonious side in the rest.
Rooney's a victim of his own talent and reputation. His initial years were so electric, so devastating and so promising that the yard stick to which he's measured has been warped. I think Scholes got it pretty bang on when he said Rooney peaked early, however people still carry a talent projection around and compare Rooney to where they feel he should be at this stage of his career. Yes, his application can be questioned, but not his talent. Rooney deserves the goalscoring record because, simply put, he's the most talented English footballer of his generation, and we've nothing even remotely similar to his level in the pipeline.
Out of interest, what would people say were the highlights of his 114 caps?
What games will you remember him for? What international matches did he change?
He showed those Andorrans when we beat them 3-0. Didn't know what had hit them.
In fairness to Gerrard, he'd be the first admit he didn't have a great England career - said as much when he got his 100th cap.
He'll be missed.
No he won`t :happy:
:nope:He will by discerning fotball fans.:winking:
Agreed.
The argument some are making that Gerrard can't be an England 'legend' just because he didn't win a WC or EC doesn't really stand up. I don't think having one of those on your CV is necessary to achieve 'legend' status with a national team. For example, Gary Lineker never won anything with England but I'd class him as a legend given the goals he scored and the many great memories he gave us England fans.
Exactly it's a stupid theory. We've only won one major tournament so does that mean only the 1966 team can be classed as legends?
What history forgets is that they also lost us the 1970 WC :smile:
:nope:He will by discerning fotball fans.:winking:
But by discerning football fans he won`t :winking: