londonblue
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I'm aware of the implications here, but this man was not even remotely on the same scale as Savile. He seems to have been "only" a voyeur, and clearly a lonely man with his sad, sordid secret. Did he take the coward's way out? Well, yes, I guess he did. I feel sorry for the victims and their families and also for his own family, who must be in shock themselves. A very, very sad state of affairs.
Exactly the same scale. You don't get different degrees of nonces. A nonce is a nonce
No, he has not been accused of touching a boy in a sexual manner or of any of the many sordid crimes attributed to Savile. Not even remotely close. Are you saying that one murderer is the same as any other murderer regardless of the severity of the crime? That Lee Hughes is the same as Peter Sutcliffe? I rather think sentences passed might indicate that this isn't the case. There are always scales of severity in any crime.
No, he has not been accused of touching a boy in a sexual manner or of any of the many sordid crimes attributed to Savile. Not even remotely close. Are you saying that one murderer is the same as any other murderer regardless of the severity of the crime? That Lee Hughes is the same as Peter Sutcliffe? I rather think sentences passed might indicate that this isn't the case. There are always scales of severity in any crime.
It's you who is saying they're not on the same scale.
It's a horrendous crime that he was found to have committed. Especially because they can't identify the (number of) victims.
Unlike saville, he was a teacher and therefore trusted a huge amount. He's be found to have completely breached that trust.
Would they both end up on the sex offenders register? Would either of them be able to work with kids again? I rest my case
Stop winding up OBL.
Go and watch the BrassEye special instead.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/brass-eye/on-demand
That's about the only similarity then, the amount of trust shown in them both. I just want to make clear that I am NOT defending him at all, what he did was obviously wrong and if he was alive then he would, I imagine, be facing a custodial sentence, but I don't think it WOULD be comparable to those who actually have been found guilty of physical relations with minors.Unlike saville, he was a teacher and therefore trusted a huge amount. He's be found to have completely breached that trust.
That's about the only similarity then, the amount of trust shown in them both. I just want to make clear that I am NOT defending him at all, what he did was obviously wrong and if he was alive then he would, I imagine, be facing a custodial sentence, but I don't think it WOULD be comparable to those who actually have been found guilty of physical relations with minors.
That's about the only similarity then, the amount of trust shown in them both. I just want to make clear that I am NOT defending him at all, what he did was obviously wrong and if he was alive then he would, I imagine, be facing a custodial sentence, but I don't think it WOULD be comparable to those who actually have been found guilty of physical relations with minors.
Some uncomfortable questions for Essex Police here. It would seem that they had info on him over two years ago but took a long time to get on the case. I wonder how many more poor kids were compromised during that time?
I knew there would be a someone who would talk sense and a posse of people who just want to go armed with pitchforks.
OBL is absolutely right here.
Nonce, yes. Embarrassment to his employers, yes. Savile-esque (as yet), no.
Should have his remains fed to the pigs though, the pigs slaughtered and then cooked up into paedo bacon and fed to other paedos.
I knew there would be a someone who would talk sense and a posse of people who just want to go armed with pitchforks.
OBL is absolutely right here.
Nonce, yes. Embarrassment to his employers, yes. Savile-esque (as yet), no.
Should have his remains fed to the pigs though, the pigs slaughtered and then cooked up into paedo bacon and fed to other paedos.