Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United 1-1 Bury

davewebbsbrain said:

Well obviously. My point was that Brown doesn't know what he is doing and a neutral fan picked up on this after one game. No idea why you highlighted it and picked up on it

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fbm said:

Interestng on Sky tonight when Gary Neville was analysing Chelsea's possession in the 2 games v both Manchester sides. The top and highly complex stats showed that after going 1-0 up in both games, there was a shift in the players mental attitude and they naturally dropped a bit deeper. He made the point that this couldn't be a directive from the manager, it was the players themselves switching off. Maybe it isn't Brown's choice; maybe the players just think it's something they should do to preserve the lead. It's all well and good us sitting here casting judgement and opinion, we aren't the ones involved and the players want their win bonuses as well as Brown wanting a job. They won't be doing it on purpose!

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Yorkshire Blue said:

Do you really think that the players change to a defensive formation on a substitution by themselves?

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fbm said:

Interestng on Sky tonight when Gary Neville was analysing Chelsea's possession in the 2 games v both Manchester sides. The top and highly complex stats showed that after going 1-0 up in both games, there was a shift in the players mental attitude and they naturally dropped a bit deeper. He made the point that this couldn't be a directive from the manager, it was the players themselves switching off. Maybe it isn't Brown's choice; maybe the players just think it's something they should do to preserve the lead. It's all well and good us sitting here casting judgement and opinion, we aren't the ones involved and the players want their win bonuses as well as Brown wanting a job. They won't be doing it on purpose!

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Jam_Man said:

There's also the fact that a team comes to Roots Hall and sits back to nick something, we score so they then have no option to attack more which pushes us back.

It doesnt have to be a tactical decision made by us that makes us "sit back" but one made by the opponents who also have some say in what happens on the pitch.

Changing formation is obviously something Brown decides on, but other games its often a result of the opposition just having to attack more.

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Beefy said:

First chance I've had to come on here since the game. Urgh. Very disappointing. Really couldn't have begrudged Bury the three points had they nicked it as they were by far the more inventive of the two sides. I thought we looked fairly devoid of ideas.

I was glad to see two strikers and couldn't fault either of them for their workrate. It was the first time I'd seen Barnard this season and I certainly couldn't knock his workrate. I think we need to stick with two up top. Whether it is these two or one + Shaq (my preference) we need to give the strikers the best chance to score and you do that by playing two of them and letting them build an understanding.

I'm sure it has been spoken about at length but that was the worst penalty decision I can ever remember seeing. I've never heard three sides of a ground and 11 players round on a referee like that and that said it all.

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