Post-Match Thread and Ratings Tranmere Rovers 1 - 2 Southend United

spoons said:

I was there and the whole team were superb, tactics were spot on for the players who worked their socks off. You are as much of a fans any whether you go to away games but to question Browns tactics currently, is to me an injustice. I am not Browns biggest fan but credit was due yesterday, winning a difficult looking fixture, against a team freshened with signings and a good manager in Micky Adams.

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Rattus Norvegicus said:

It would be a shame if Tranmere are relegated because I like Prenton Park. It is a proper football ground - not some middle class, soul less and sanitised stadium. Four decent sides and in the middle of the connurbation that the team represents rather than being stuck out on a retail area with no facilities.

And well done to Tranmere for letting us have all the stand - too often clubs squash us into part of the stand and tell us we can't use the remainder of the space for health and safety reasons. And you could even have a conversation about the game at half-time as the music wasn't too loud.

All in all, a good day out! :thumbsup:

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spoons said:

Williams made mistakes but never shied from looking for the ball and was a presence that Tranmere could not ignore. His job was probably to cover in front of the defence and to assist a tiring midfield. Payne and Corr looked exhausted in the last few minutes but they had worked hard. Corr for a change looked quite good and seemed to relish roughing up their back four.
Is Williams a winger? No, but he needs a lot of work before he makes a full back role too.

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onceknownasrab said:

So let me get this right. Anyone who can wax lyrically about three consecutive wins, against lower opposition, without being totally convincing, is a true supporter. Those that express concerns are idiots or as Jam Man states, '..it really says a lot about that persons outlook on life'.

I am glad for the win and the three points. Well done the lads! But that does not prevent me from erring on the side of caution about how excited I get. We scored two, hurrah, but rarely does that happen and I would like to see a striker score one day as you cannot always rely on the others. Corr played well, double hurrah, but what if he had gone off injured after three minutes or whenever? Who did we have to play his role?

Why does it make me an idiot just because I want to be realistic and question a plethora of midfield signings and zip attackers? Oh yes I know Lee got injured unluckily but even with him here the numbers would be low.

Why can't I hope that we can put a similar number of goals past teams at the wrong end of the table as other teams appear to according to stats? I know it cant be done every time but so far we have failed to do it once.

The win is great and I will always be pleased for a win but like many on here, I have seen our club play for decades, the ups and the downs, and I know if a wheel can come off it will. Scraping by will win some games but because a 'worldy' will often occur or a slip or a poor decision, then I doubt it will win enough games. Thats the nature of football. Our team is good but not good enough to be sure of the defence whilst profligate in attack.

If that says something about my outlook, I hope it says I am realistic.

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davewebbsbrain said:

That's your opinion. It didn't happen so we can NEVER be sure. Players miss from a yard out you know

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Another Surrey Shrimper said:

So we should worry about the fact the second goal was an own goal AND the fact that Corr was ready for a tap in if their player didn't oblige is of no conciliation. An actual goal that actually went in AND theoretical back up if it hadn't gone in (it actually did)..... I think I may recognise you from somewhere....did you used to walk along Oxford Street with a sandwich board saying 'The End Is Nigh'?

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davewebbsbrain said:

I like Williams, big and powerful, just needs work as you say

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onceknownasrab said:

So let me get this right. Anyone who can wax lyrically about three consecutive wins, against lower opposition, without being totally convincing, is a true supporter. Those that express concerns are idiots or as Jam Man states, '..it really says a lot about that persons outlook on life'.

I am glad for the win and the three points. Well done the lads! But that does not prevent me from erring on the side of caution about how excited I get. We scored two, hurrah, but rarely does that happen and I would like to see a striker score one day as you cannot always rely on the others. Corr played well, double hurrah, but what if he had gone off injured after three minutes or whenever? Who did we have to play his role?

Why does it make me an idiot just because I want to be realistic and question a plethora of midfield signings and zip attackers? Oh yes I know Lee got injured unluckily but even with him here the numbers would be low.

Why can't I hope that we can put a similar number of goals past teams at the wrong end of the table as other teams appear to according to stats? I know it cant be done every time but so far we have failed to do it once.

The win is great and I will always be pleased for a win but like many on here, I have seen our club play for decades, the ups and the downs, and I know if a wheel can come off it will. Scraping by will win some games but because a 'worldy' will often occur or a slip or a poor decision, then I doubt it will win enough games. Thats the nature of football. Our team is good but not good enough to be sure of the defence whilst profligate in attack.

If that says something about my outlook, I hope it says I am realistic.

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dannypav said:

If after 18 games we really are as bad as some would have us believe , do you think we would be sitting where we are ?
We are fast approaching half way and this should have given the so called 'superior teams' ample time to be way ahead of us , but they're not.
We are far from the finished article , but then neither are anyone else in this Division.
I despair at the pessimism of some on here.

Btw , I know Hursts ball to Worrall was a 'worldy' for the 2nd goal but I thought Corr played a great one for the first goal also.[/



Phil's Roots Hall record is decidedly average which explains the pessimism by others and myself.

The 35 league games at the Hall have produced 15 wins 12 draws and 8 defeats scoring a mere 39 goals!

105 points were available yet we managed 57!

I have attended around 25 of those games and IMO we have been awful in far too many.

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davewebbsbrain said:

That's your opinion. It didn't happen so we can NEVER be sure. Players miss from a yard out you know

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wakes123 said:

How did White do at LB? I wonder what Phil will do with the defence for the Northampton game, we have a lot of options now...don't change a winning team? or play everyone in their more natural positions?

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mrsblue said:

dannypav said:

If after 18 games we really are as bad as some would have us believe , do you think we would be sitting where we are ?
We are fast approaching half way and this should have given the so called 'superior teams' ample time to be way ahead of us , but they're not.
We are far from the finished article , but then neither are anyone else in this Division.
I despair at the pessimism of some on here.

Btw , I know Hursts ball to Worrall was a 'worldy' for the 2nd goal but I thought Corr played a great one for the first goal also.[/



Phil's Roots Hall record is decidedly average which explains the pessimism by others and myself.

The 35 league games at the Hall have produced 15 wins 12 draws and 8 defeats scoring a mere 39 goals!

105 points were available yet we managed 57!

I have attended around 25 of those games and IMO we have been awful in far too many.

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Sturrock has same stats in that away form was better than home, means that a lot of people don't get to see the good games. In terms of success of the team though half of the games are away and they have the same amount of points available as the home games.

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davewebbsbrain said:

Is there any need to get personal?

You can NEVER say Corr would have scored it, unless you can travel to a parallel world where the defender didn't put into his own net.

If you read all my posts on this thread, you will see I have said we are looking more attack minded with Worrall and Payne in the team. That is a positive comment. Stop looking to pull me apart because you are being personal in everything I post.

There are quite a few posters with the same view as me that have posted on this thread. Why is that? Nothing to do with the Ched Evans thread by any chance? You targeted me on there too because I didn't have the same opinion as you. You have made SZ personal and that is a shame

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Another Surrey Shrimper said:

Laughable - you have hounded me plenty of times, I'm surprised if you don't recall that. This was hardly personal it was an OTT spoof characterisation - just a cheap gag, no one really thinks I saw you on Oxford Street.

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Rattus Norvegicus said:

White was good, Bolger was good (except for the foul in the penalty box) and Thommo had a good game. I'm not a fan of Prosser so will leave others to comment.

Do you change the defence? A very good question. I think there is a better back 4 combination from the players we have and Northampton have scored quite a lot of goals this season ........... I suspect that sort of decision is what Brown gets paid for.

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davewebbsbrain said:

So even though I've been positive on this thread, you choose to ignore that and say I'm being negative...very odd behaviour. I don't see you remarking on those posts that are actually negative ones from other posters on here.

So where are these plenty of times I have hounded you?

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