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Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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Another Surrey Shrimper said:
If I talk about making the same mistakes what would make you think that I'm taking about the three elections they won rather than the two more recent ones they lost?
Mistakes tend not to be associated with things you win.
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But those losses had nothing to do with where Labour pitched themselves. The three they won certainly did. To me that wasn't a mistake.
 
Tangled up in Blue said:
Tony Blair was certainly a mistake.
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Blair / Brown government did a lot of good - minimum wage, civil partnerships, sure start, banning hunting with dogs, equal age of consent, smoking ban - off the top of my head. And some bad - academy schools, PFI, the start of tuition fees (albeit at a much lower level) - I imagine you and I would agree on those.
Iraq - I personally do not have an issue with invading Iraq to rid them of a murdering dictator. I agree that what came next was a monumental **** up.

I canvassed for Blair, I canvassed for Milliband, I will canvas for Corbyn.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
Blair / Brown government did a lot of good - minimum wage, civil partnerships, sure start, banning hunting with dogs, equal age of consent, smoking ban - off the top of my head. And some bad - academy schools, PFI, the start of tuition fees (albeit at a much lower level) - I imagine you and I would agree on those.
Iraq - I personally do not have an issue with invading Iraq to rid them of a murdering dictator. I agree that what came next was a monumental **** up.

I canvassed for Blair, I canvassed for Milliband, I will canvas for Corbyn.
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PFI kicked off on John Major's watch. A bloody hateful scheme that I had the misfortune to be on the end of twice when it first came in. I have yet to see it work successfully anywhere in Public Services.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
Blair / Brown government did a lot of good - minimum wage, civil partnerships, sure start, banning hunting with dogs, equal age of consent, smoking ban - off the top of my head. And some bad - academy schools, PFI, the start of tuition fees (albeit at a much lower level) - I imagine you and I would agree on those.
Iraq - I personally do not have an issue with invading Iraq to rid them of a murdering dictator. I agree that what came next was a monumental **** up.

I canvassed for Blair, I canvassed for Milliband, I will canvas for Corbyn.
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So you have no problem with invading a country that was not threat militarily or from terrorists because the American neo conservatives wanted to.

Thousands of women and children killed and the death toll keeps rising. It will soon be past the 1,000,000 mark. You must be so proud.

Its quite simple.... No illegal war = No **** up.

How about Robert Mugabe, shouldn't he be on your moral liberal invasion list or is Zimbabwe a little to 'black Africa' for white mans war.
 
Uncle Leo said:
Indeed. Although of course that was 'their' ground way back in the day. Harold MacMillan's old seat.
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That would have been a very different Britain, I always think that elections are won and lost on which party offers the most hope....and it would be easy to bash Corbyn at this point...as he appears to only appeal to a small section of society / voters.

Is it possible that the Tories are offering more hope than Labour and thus have a wider appeal?
 
The misreporting of this story has been (expectedly) awful. He's not called for a ban on afterwork drinks.
 
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So he didn't say this then, no? "early evening socialisation benefits men who don't feel the need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got"

Oh wait, yes he actually did.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/corby...-work-drinks-for-quite-sexist-reason-6105449/

Sorry, call me blinkered n all that but I can't see what's been misreported there.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
Blair / Brown government did a lot of good - minimum wage, civil partnerships, sure start, banning hunting with dogs, equal age of consent, smoking ban - off the top of my head. And some bad - academy schools, PFI, the start of tuition fees (albeit at a much lower level) - I imagine you and I would agree on those.
Iraq - I personally do not have an issue with invading Iraq to rid them of a murdering dictator. I agree that what came next was a monumental **** up.

I canvassed for Blair, I canvassed for Milliband, I will canvas for Corbyn.
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I admire your loyalty to the Labour party.

However,Iraq will go down on Blair's headstone.

Like you, I certainly wouldn't call the start of tuition fees, (which went against an election pledge), a good thing, either.

Some would argue, (not necessarily me), that the uncontrolled immigratrion which started on his watch should be on your bad list too.
 
Uncle Leo said:
Still, loads of people going to rallies.

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Bradshaw is being a **** with this - why would people vote for a party who are in the middle of a 3 month leadership debate? Undermine the leader and effectively the party, reject whole swathes of new members for spurious reasons and then act like it is not the fault of the NEC when Councillors start losing seats. Classic case of divide and not rule.
 
rigsby said:
So you have no problem with invading a country that was not threat militarily or from terrorists because the American neo conservatives wanted to.

Thousands of women and children killed and the death toll keeps rising. It will soon be past the 1,000,000 mark. You must be so proud.

Its quite simple.... No illegal war = No **** up.

How about Robert Mugabe, shouldn't he be on your moral liberal invasion list or is Zimbabwe a little to 'black Africa' for white mans war.
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Yes Zimbabwe is on my list. Stop trying to twist my moral code it is so tedious - I can speak for myself so no need to preempt what I will say.
 
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Another Surrey Shrimper said:
Yes Zimbabwe is on my list. Stop trying to twist my morale code is so tedious - I can speak for myself so no need to preempt what I will say.
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Nicely avoiding the Iraq question, normal service resumed.

Illegally invading countries to cause a 1,000,000 deaths and how many rapes of children alone. No I certainly don't want to twist your 'morale code'
 
rigsby said:
Nicely avoiding the Iraq question, normal service resumed.

Illegally invading countries to cause a 1,000,000 deaths and how many rapes of children alone. No I certainly don't want to twist your 'morale code'
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just avoiding you ideally as you don't read what people write

(though I am going to go back and correct my spelling!)
 
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