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Ben Bradley the Tory MP who accused Corbyn of selling secrets has been issued a legal letter:


The four legal demands are that Bradley:
- confirms in writing that the defamatory statement will not be repeated in any form
- tweets an apology and asks followers to retweet it
- makes a donation to a charity of Jeremy Corbyn’s choice in lieu of damages
- and pays Jeremy Corbyn’s legal costs.


The charity is likely to be the food bank in Bradley's constituency.

Update on this - Tory MP Ben Bradley has agreed to all of Corbyn's demands - issue an apology, not repeat the libel, pay Corbyn's legal expenses and make a donation to a homeless charity.

Be surprised if this climb down is reported in the Sun / Mail / Express / Telegraph who are still making similar claims but presumably getting their legal people to keep it just the right side of idle gossip rather than libel.
 
So no proof that Corbyn ever smooched up with the KGB, just the IRA.
 
In the TOrygraph today there is a self congratulatory article about the cartoonist "Matt" and his political cartoon satire over the years, all the major recent political leaders EXCEPT JC had chosen and remarked on ones they though applied to them and caused mirth - my fav was Clegg remarking on him being given a clegg (cat) flap in the No10 door. The rep once from JC's people was" none involving Mr Corbyn was funny".
A tad pompous?
 
In the TOrygraph today there is a self congratulatory article about the cartoonist "Matt" and his political cartoon satire over the years, all the major recent political leaders EXCEPT JC had chosen and remarked on ones they though applied to them and caused mirth - my fav was Clegg remarking on him being given a clegg (cat) flap in the No10 door. The rep once from JC's people was" none involving Mr Corbyn was funny".
A tad pompous?

I'd be more concerned that the Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party has had to make a most grovelling apology and make a substantial donation to a charity after tweeting complete lies about Jeremy Corbyn than him not wishing to entertain a Tory S*itrag like the Telegraph with a comment.
 
In the TOrygraph today there is a self congratulatory article about the cartoonist "Matt" and his political cartoon satire over the years, all the major recent political leaders EXCEPT JC had chosen and remarked on ones they though applied to them and caused mirth - my fav was Clegg remarking on him being given a clegg (cat) flap in the No10 door. The rep once from JC's people was" none involving Mr Corbyn was funny".
A tad pompous?
It's possible that we could end up with another Tory government if the public believe the current onslaught of lies being dished out by the Tory press.


If someone had slandered you every day for a week often on the front page and then at the end of that week asked you if you wanted to say something funny about a cartoon would you really point at one and say 'LOL this one cracks me up'?


No politician has dared to take on large swaths of the press to demand they mend their lying ways - some of the things we put up with in this country are finally going to be dealt with.
 
So no proof that Corbyn ever smooched up with the KGB, just the IRA.

No proof of the IRA either. Just the usual mindless media pap that conveniently confuses Sinn Fein politicians with the IRA, whilst forgetting that both John Major and Tony Blair did the same, and the ultimate result of all of those who did more than "mask Gerry Adams' voice with an actors" was the Good Friday Agreement.

We could of course discuss Thatcher and Pinochet, or is that a bit too inconvenient. Or even the current Government and Saudi Arabia. Or even dig up the Daily Mail's support for Hitler in 1938. You choose......
 
I'd be more concerned that the Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party has had to make a most grovelling apology and make a substantial donation to a charity after tweeting complete lies about Jeremy Corbyn than him not wishing to entertain a Tory S*itrag like the Telegraph with a comment.
Ben Bradley has been a liability so many times and his cave in on this has been absolute. I don't know if this will be a warning to others or whether there will be more legal letters sent out but it really is time for politicians to be made to stop their lying ways.
 
No proof of the IRA either. Just the usual mindless media pap that conveniently confuses Sinn Fein politicians with the IRA, whilst forgetting that both John Major and Tony Blair did the same, and the ultimate result of all of those who did more than "mask Gerry Adams' voice with an actors" was the Good Friday Agreement.

We could of course discuss Thatcher and Pinochet, or is that a bit too inconvenient. Or even the current Government and Saudi Arabia. Or even dig up the Daily Mail's support for Hitler in 1938. You choose......

McGuinness was a brigade commander of the IRA so thats slightly incorrect wouldn't you say.
 
Martin McGuinness.RIP.You mean.


"McGuinness acknowledged that he was a former IRA member, but stated that he left the IRA in 1974." In other words when he was 23/24 years old.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_McGuinness

The British army use to listen in on McGuiness. Even in the 80's and 90's he was still ordering murders. He was the man who opened up and fired the first shots on Blood Sunday. He fired over the heads of his own Catholic people on a march. He knew exactly what would happen and that's exactly what he wanted.

Corbyn was never going to Ireland for peace in the 80's, he like Dianne Abbott thought the IRA would win and that's what he supported. Like many a spoilt privately educated child from that era he needed a cause to give him self some street cred. What better to go drinking and signing rebel songs with McGuinness, Adams and their bodyguards who used to do some murdering in their days off.

Now days McGuinness would be arrested on terrorism charges, unfortunately back then way to many traitors to out country allowed him freedom because "He's not doing the killing".

In the mean time the likes of McGuiness could terrorise their own community. Even the smallest local business had to pay protection money, to build anything without it being firebombed meant you had to make a large donation 'for the cause'

The IRA abducted, tortured and murdered a Catholic mother for the crime of holding a young British squaddies hand as he died in the street. These are the sort of people that Corbyn like to hang around with and give support in Westminster.

The fact that any of our politicians try to claim credit for peace in NI is because they know you won't get told the truth. The funding from the USA had dried up. The IRA, sein fien and above all McGuinness were running scared. Why because they were totally compromised and were being gunned down by the SAS.

The IRA had a team called the 'Nutting Squad' who would torture and murder anyone they thought was an informant or 'tout'. They killed so many people that in the end McGuinness thought he was next and that's why we have peace in NI

Here's a nice link for you as you won't believe anyone else. www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/may/12/northernireland.northernireland1
 
Everyone knows about the terrorism on the nationalist side and the unionist side. I don't believe any MPs from the English parties encouraged this but many MPs were in discussions with their representatives and that is what led to the Good Friday Agreement and the closest there has been to peace Ireland. The current impact of Irish politics on UK right now is that the DUP who refused to sign the GFA are propping up the UK government and that we now have 3 Tory and 1 Labour MPs talking down the GFA as it is a complication to leaving the EU.
 
Everyone knows about the terrorism on the nationalist side and the unionist side. I don't believe any MPs from the English parties encouraged this but many MPs were in discussions with their representatives and that is what led to the Good Friday Agreement and the closest there has been to peace Ireland. The current impact of Irish politics on UK right now is that the DUP who refused to sign the GFA are propping up the UK government and that we now have 3 Tory and 1 Labour MPs talking down the GFA as it is a complication to leaving the EU.

Lets see what Dianne Abbott said about the IRA.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40076195

She also wanted to disband MI5.....Corbyn wanted her as Home secretary
 
Lets see what Dianne Abbott said about the IRA.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40076195

She also wanted to disband MI5.....Corbyn wanted her as Home secretary

Do you just post up links and hope no one reads them and they just believe your synopsis?


Last link was about an IRA informant and had nothing to do with Corbyn or even McGuinness who you had been discussing. Interesting enough article but nothing to do with this thread.


On this one there is no quote from Abbott saying she supports IRA terrorism, just that she has changed her mind on the IRA / Irish Republicanism. 30+ years have passed and 30 years have also passed since she wanted MI5 scrapped so that a reformed version could replace it.


Amber Rudd is also quoted in the article where she claimed more people would be killed by terrorism if Labour was elected which is a very strange thing to say as it's the Tories who have paid a billion pounds to the one UK party who oppose the Good Friday Agreement which ended Irish terrorism and it's the Tories who sell arms to the Saudis to murder the people of Yemen.


Terrorism is currently not a safe topic of discussion for the Tories but as the economy is past its sell by date for them due to trebling of national debt they haven't really got any safe subjects left. This is why they have kept the Czech spy libel alive despite the Czech's saying there is no incriminating file and there being no Stasi file and a Tory vice chairman having to retract and apologise to Corbyn and pay his legal costs. There are no safe subjects for this Tory government so they have to fudge, smear and libel.
 
Do you just post up links and hope no one reads them and they just believe your synopsis?


Last link was about an IRA informant and had nothing to do with Corbyn or even McGuinness who you had been discussing. Interesting enough article but nothing to do with this thread.


On this one there is no quote from Abbott saying she supports IRA terrorism, just that she has changed her mind on the IRA / Irish Republicanism. 30+ years have passed and 30 years have also passed since she wanted MI5 scrapped so that a reformed version could replace it.


Amber Rudd is also quoted in the article where she claimed more people would be killed by terrorism if Labour was elected which is a very strange thing to say as it's the Tories who have paid a billion pounds to the one UK party who oppose the Good Friday Agreement which ended Irish terrorism and it's the Tories who sell arms to the Saudis to murder the people of Yemen.


Terrorism is currently not a safe topic of discussion for the Tories but as the economy is past its sell by date for them due to trebling of national debt they haven't really got any safe subjects left. This is why they have kept the Czech spy libel alive despite the Czech's saying there is no incriminating file and there being no Stasi file and a Tory vice chairman having to retract and apologise to Corbyn and pay his legal costs. There are no safe subjects for this Tory government so they have to fudge, smear and libel.

Yes she did absolute fact...."Every defat of the British state is a victory for all of us" That's why she tries to avoid it with nonsense about hair styles. It was people like her that allowed the troubles to continue and to many innocent people had to be needlessly murdered before effective action brought the peace.

We know for an absolute fact Corbyn lied about his meeting with the IRA, until incriminating photos emerged. So just because there is no incriminating Stasi file doesn't mean there are no questions to answer.

Rather like another Labour leader Blair who strongly denies crawling around Trumps son-in-law to become a 'Middle East Peace Envoy'. Now we have a witness who was in the room calling Blair a total liar he's even mentioned it in a book.
 
IF there are more spy style JC tales out there then I would guess the lid will be kept on them until into the next GE campaign and then them (the stories) to be released with the Tories using them as a trump card for a win.
Labour, and JC need to examine their past and be sure they are clean and clear.
 
Yes she did absolute fact...."Every defat of the British state is a victory for all of us" That's why she tries to avoid it with nonsense about hair styles. It was people like her that allowed the troubles to continue and to many innocent people had to be needlessly murdered before effective action brought the peace.

We know for an absolute fact Corbyn lied about his meeting with the IRA, until incriminating photos emerged. So just because there is no incriminating Stasi file doesn't mean there are no questions to answer.

Rather like another Labour leader Blair who strongly denies crawling around Trumps son-in-law to become a 'Middle East Peace Envoy'. Now we have a witness who was in the room calling Blair a total liar he's even mentioned it in a book.
Link to the Abbott quote please. If it's from the last link then you have misquoted.

Link to the info to show 'we now know for an absolute fact...' please.


Blair - haven't really got the time to defend or condemn him, he is a man from another era.
 
IF there are more spy style JC tales out there then I would guess the lid will be kept on them until into the next GE campaign and then them (the stories) to be released with the Tories using them as a trump card for a win.
Labour, and JC need to examine their past and be sure they are clean and clear.
sure the right wing press use slurs when they need to effect the way we vote - and they are choosing to use them now because we are constantly on the verge of this government collapsing. The Czech thing has been totally played out and the 'spy's' own words have been laughable when he said Corbyn told them what Thatcher had for breakfast and that the Czech's bankrolled Live Aid. That is the Sun's star witness! That verses the Czech authorities and espionage experts who say the file on Corbyn was the lowest grade 'of interest but not willing/not of use'.
Then you have calls for Corbyn to release his Stasi file - except that the files are available if MI5 want them but the Germans say no file on Corbyn exists (and they have no reason to lie and would easily be found out). Add of course the Tory MP who has retracted comments saying Corbyn sold secrets and paid Corbyn's legal bills. So when the accusations have been made and disproved and we all know that the Sun / Mail / Express lie to sell papers - why are you so willing to believe the lie rather than the evidence?
 
IF there are more spy style JC tales out there then I would guess the lid will be kept on them until into the next GE campaign and then them (the stories) to be released with the Tories using them as a trump card for a win.
Labour, and JC need to examine their past and be sure they are clean and clear.

Every time a spy story about JC and his links with terrorists etc has come in the UK press, he and his staff have been able to bat it away easily,as they will again,if any such stories come up in future.

As for Martin McGuinness,he'll go down in history for his role in the Good Friday peace process rather than his previous IRA membership.
 
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