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fbm · Sep 23, 2015

From a friend of mine

"For all my SUFC supporter friends to make you aware Cabinet debated a report yesterday on the withdrawal of the CP order on Roots Hall / Fossetts Farm, as current CP order is now Null & Void. Owner has been given several opportunities to address concerns & has failed to bring any movement on the table. Requirements are: Clear statements of plans around excess land from the re-scoped Sainsbury's deal; clearing outstanding debts to SBC; providing indemnity insurance against losses from legal risk: signing the 109 agreement (now superceded by the CIL).The ball is firmly with SUFC. Understand that it will be discussed again at Cabinet's November meeting."

LennySUFC · Sep 23, 2015

Save our Souls Barry Corr meeting? Afraid it's too late for that!

Rattus Norvegicus · Sep 23, 2015

fbm said:
From a friend of mine

"For all my SUFC supporter friends to make you aware Cabinet debated a report yesterday on the withdrawal of the CP order on Roots Hall / Fossetts Farm, as current CP order is now Null & Void. Owner has been given several opportunities to address concerns & has failed to bring any movement on the table. Requirements are: Clear statements of plans around excess land from the re-scoped Sainsbury's deal; clearing outstanding debts to SBC; providing indemnity insurance against losses from legal risk: signing the 109 agreement (now superceded by the CIL).The ball is firmly with SUFC. Understand that it will be discussed again at Cabinet's November meeting."

Thanks for that - I wait for someone with more knowledge of these things to translate this into plain english but it doesn't sound good. Having said that Ron seems quite happy to push things to the limit/deadline and who knows what is being said privately/behind closed doors.

Somerset Ex-TTB · Sep 23, 2015

To me sounds like the club have done bugger all, and the fans and the council have been strung along for the last 3 years.

ooh-andy-ansah · Sep 23, 2015

Ex-Trust Treasurer Bloke said:
To me sounds like the club have done bugger all, and the fans and the council have been strung along for the last 3 years.

I think that's a pretty fair and accurate assessment !!!

Rattus Norvegicus · Sep 23, 2015

Ex-Trust Treasurer Bloke said:
To me sounds like the club have done bugger all, and the fans and the council have been strung along for the last 3 years.

I think you might have under estimated the number of years that we have been "strung along" .................. :omg:

Sherif H · Sep 23, 2015

Translates into us being further away than ever in the last 10 years to FF coming to fruition.
Redevelopment of Roots Hall is now something which should be explored with some vigour as there is scope to deliver what we need on the current site.

Somerset Ex-TTB · Sep 23, 2015

Rattus Norvegicus said:
I think you might have under estimated the number of years that we have been "strung along" .................. :omg:

I forgot the zero

Jam_Man · Sep 23, 2015

Sherif H said:
Translates into us being further away than ever in the last 10 years to FF coming to fruition.
Redevelopment of Roots Hall is now something which should be explored with some vigour as there is scope to deliver what we need on the current site.

How do we achieve that when selling Roots Hall was to pay for the work?

We have accumulated over 10 million in debts through the so far failed Fossett Farm project, that also needs to be cleared which again cant be without selling Roots Hall.

Smiffy · Sep 23, 2015

What Sherif said.

Nice to know we are in debt with SBC to add to a long list of others.

To be honest if SBC agree in November to pull the plug on it, I would not blame them and you know what part of me hopes they do. As John Main said back in Aug 2001 "FF is not financially viable and the clubs future remains at RH"

Ron has had 15 years to deliver and has failed. Time is up. Next.....

Smiffy · Sep 23, 2015

Jam_Man said:
How do we achieve that when selling Roots Hall was to pay for the work?

We have accumulated over 10 million in debts through the so far failed Fossett Farm project, that also needs to be cleared which again cant be without selling Roots Hall.

A combined housing/community stadium type agreement looks our best bet at the moment.

Depor_Shrimper · Sep 23, 2015

And then there is this . . . http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13778529.2_000_seat_cinema_announced_for_Southend/

Smiffy · Sep 23, 2015

Depor_Shrimper said:
And then there is this . . . http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13778529.2_000_seat_cinema_announced_for_Southend/

Great. So Cineworld have reached an agreement to build a Cinema on the "Proposed" retail park at FF.

They will have a long wait... :hilarious:

RHB · Sep 23, 2015

Depor_Shrimper said:
And then there is this . . . http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13778529.2_000_seat_cinema_announced_for_Southend/

Now this one is interesting. Big players like CineWorld don't announce this sort of thing unless there is a reasonable certainty that it will happen, and within reasonable time scales. I know Ron's an expert bullshitter, but I doubt he would be able to hoodwink this lot.

Rattus Norvegicus · Sep 23, 2015

Depor_Shrimper said:
And then there is this . . . http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13778529.2_000_seat_cinema_announced_for_Southend/

Interesting update.

And ten restaurants ........... hhmmmm - I suspect they will all be franchised chains where the food is brought in from across the country and the atmosphere and fare is homogonised rather than being local. That seems to be the way of "retail parks" that are the same all across England.

Crawliano · Sep 23, 2015

Rootshallbloke said:
Now this one is interesting. Big players like CineWorld don't announce this sort of thing unless there is a reasonable certainty that it will happen, and within reasonable time scales. I know Ron's an expert bullshitter, but I doubt he would be able to hoodwink this lot.

I find myself agreeing with this. Cineworld wouldn't announce something like this if there wasn't a high degree of certainty. As soon as the car park idea was looking shaky I was wondering when Fossetts would be mentioned. Basically Southend is going to get Festival Leisure Park (East) and the ground is going to be at the back of it (at some point long after I'm dust I'd imagine)

Firestorm · Sep 23, 2015

That's the lot who pulled out of the Seaway development a couple of months ago

Crawliano · Sep 23, 2015

Rattus Norvegicus said:
Interesting update.

And ten restaurants ........... hhmmmm - I suspect they will all be franchised chains where the food is brought in from across the country and the atmosphere and fare is homogonised rather than being local. That seems to be the way of "retail parks" that are the same all across England.

One must lap up a cheeky nandos though.

Cricko · Sep 23, 2015

Rootshallbloke said:
Now this one is interesting. Big players like CineWorld don't announce this sort of thing unless there is a reasonable certainty that it will happen, and within reasonable time scales. I know Ron's an expert bullshitter, but I doubt he would be able to hoodwink this lot.

Very, it's not as if Sainsburys once announced they were building a huge store on RH.:winking:

Liam AAS · Sep 23, 2015

Rattus Norvegicus said:
Interesting update.

And ten restaurants ........... hhmmmm - I suspect they will all be franchised chains where the food is brought in from across the country and the atmosphere and fare is homogonised rather than being local. That seems to be the way of "retail parks" that are the same all across England.

I look forward to trying the soup of the day at Frankie & Benny's

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