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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41258026

    See the Maybot's snap general election cost a cool 140 million quid+.

    Money well spent,obviously.
    plus the billion extra for Northern Ireland that didn't feature in the manifesto. Today the DUP voted with Labour to defeat the government on the pay cap. Which begs the question 'what exactly are DUP expected to do to get the 1 billion?' if they are free to vote against the government it sounds like a very poor deal (especially as the funds are to come from 'a growing economy').

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    "People voting Conservative in the election had a greater level of political knowledge than Labour voters."

    "Even after we take account of a whole host of other things, like age and income, people with low political knowledge who used the internet to get their election news tended to like Jeremy Corbyn and dislike Theresa May."

    I don't suppose anyone is really surprised by any of this are they?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41349409
    There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those that don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    "People voting Conservative in the election had a greater level of political knowledge than Labour voters."

    "Even after we take account of a whole host of other things, like age and income, people with low political knowledge who used the internet to get their election news tended to like Jeremy Corbyn and dislike Theresa May."

    I don't suppose anyone is really surprised by any of this are they?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41349409
    I would also say not only political knowledge but also a greater understanding and acceptance of actually how western capitalist economies work and prosper and what they need to continue to do so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bielzibubz View Post
    I would also say not only political knowledge but also a greater understanding and acceptance of actually how western capitalist economies work and prosper and what they need to continue to do so.
    food banks, falling wages verses cost of living, house prices so high that those under 30 have very little chance of ever being home owners other than via inheritance, transport from the commuter belt South of London that is completely unreliable and throughout the country its overpriced and overcrowded, NHS meltdown due again as the winter draws closer, tax avoiding companies being allowed to take over from established companies that support our economy, DWP punishments against the vulnerable and UN pronouncements against our government's treatment of the disabled, school shortages being propped up by schools set up with no requirement of educational experience, the 'bonfire of health and safety laws' leading to fires in tower blocks, massive reduction in police and fire brigade numbers at the time where we are on terror alert, I mean this is just every day normal people stuff, this isn't thinking about the big ticket items - trade, foreign affairs, investment, currency value, national credit rating, blah blah

    I guess this is the reward for having ' a greater understanding and acceptance of actually how western capitalist economies work and prosper'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Surrey Shrimper View Post
    food banks, falling wages verses cost of living, house prices so high that those under 30 have very little chance of ever being home owners other than via inheritance, transport from the commuter belt South of London that is completely unreliable and throughout the country its overpriced and overcrowded, NHS meltdown due again as the winter draws closer, tax avoiding companies being allowed to take over from established companies that support our economy, DWP punishments against the vulnerable and UN pronouncements against our government's treatment of the disabled, school shortages being propped up by schools set up with no requirement of educational experience, the 'bonfire of health and safety laws' leading to fires in tower blocks, massive reduction in police and fire brigade numbers at the time where we are on terror alert, I mean this is just every day normal people stuff, this isn't thinking about the big ticket items - trade, foreign affairs, investment, currency value, national credit rating, blah blah

    I guess this is the reward for having ' a greater understanding and acceptance of actually how western capitalist economies work and prosper'
    I'm not arguing with any of that ASS. Life is unfair and it stinks at times but what I'm talking about is who and what actually pulls the strings and dictates policy in a capitalist and consumerist economy such as our own. The problems this country faces mean absolutely nothing to those that have vested interests in maintaining the status quo, that's where the real power lies.

    There's a reason we haven't had a true to it's roots Labour government in this country since the 70's and that isn't likely to change any time soon. Far too many people have far too much to lose to let that happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bielzibubz View Post
    I'm not arguing with any of that ASS. Life is unfair and it stinks at times but what I'm talking about is who and what actually pulls the strings and dictates policy in a capitalist and consumerist economy such as our own. The problems this country faces mean absolutely nothing to those that have vested interests in maintaining the status quo, that's where the real power lies.

    There's a reason we haven't had a true to it's roots Labour government in this country since the 70's and that isn't likely to change any time soon. Far too many people have far too much to lose to let that happen.
    that is / was a valid thought process and led to Blair - and I think the Blair government did a lot of good - where Labour were encouraged to tack right in order to be electable. The scene is now being set for a Labour government that doesn't need to be watered down. When presented to the public on a policy by policy basis the public are embracing a left wing agenda. No guarantees at this point but its looking like pandering to the status quo is not something that has to be done (and the fear expressed by the Telegraph yesterday about the momentum that Labour have indicates they believe this to be the case)

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