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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Surrey Shrimper View Post
    he definitely wants to overturn the decision, most of his constituents would like that too.
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    because he would lose, same goes for Anna Soubry and the like - these people can all have one big policy that they prioritise but they know that without their party name on the election literature they are taking a big gamble with their jobs.
    That's as clear as mud then!
    "But the significant thing is not that they happen, but that, even when they are known about, they provoke no reaction from the left-wing intelligentsia as a whole. The argument that to tell the truth would be "inopportune" or would "play into the hands of" somebody or other is felt to be unanswerable"

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    Quote Originally Posted by callan View Post
    That's as clear as mud then!
    Muddy?

    His constituents largely want to remain in the EU.

    He would probably lose an election as an independent against a Labour candidate.
    LibDems 8% teaches us that pledging to remain doesn't trump other policies or loyalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Surrey Shrimper View Post
    he definitely wants to overturn the decision, most of his constituents would like that too.
    Many of them may well respect the result and Democracy.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44570931

    Airbus threatening to pull out of the UK if there's no Brexit deal.A sign of things to come?
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rigsby View Post
    Many of them may well respect the result and Democracy.
    The issue with respect and democracy is that in terms of leaving the EU these are terms that are not being embraced by the people that count – the government. After two years they still haven’t decided what their interpretation of the result is. How can they negotiate with the EU when they can’t even negotiate an approach amongst the Cabinet. You – as a leave voter are being completely let down by the government. You told them what to do and they have effectively just said ‘we don’t know what you mean’ and that situation remains largely unchanged to date.

    If there was a clear result and a procedure put in place and the process followed and some people wanted to reject that – you could rightly feel aggrieved. But the reality is that there was a result, the government are not clear what that actually means in practical terms or any idea how to put it into place. Can’t blame people for wanting to reject that mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44570931

    Airbus threatening to pull out of the UK if there's no Brexit deal.A sign of things to come?
    and not necessarily because of Brexit but because under this government there is no plan for Brexit so big business want to move somewhere that they actually know the terms of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Surrey Shrimper View Post
    and not necessarily because of Brexit but because under this government there is no plan for Brexit so big business want to move somewhere that they actually know the terms of business.
    Alastair Campbell (remember him?) was on the Daily Politics earlier openly wondering if other big companies would now follow Airbus's lead and go public with their concerns.Co-guest Nigel Farage,perhaps unsuprisingly, didn't have an opinion to offer on that one.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    Alastair Campbell (remember him?) was on the Daily Politics earlier openly wondering if other big companies would now follow Airbus's lead and go public with their concerns.Co-guest Nigel Farage,perhaps unsuprisingly, didn't have an opinion to offer on that one.
    Farage should be livid that his dream is being ****ed up the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    Alastair Campbell (remember him?) was on the Daily Politics earlier openly wondering if other big companies would now follow Airbus's lead and go public with their concerns.Co-guest Nigel Farage,perhaps unsuprisingly, didn't have an opinion to offer on that one.
    This was all covered in the Referendum.

    If you remember, Airbus are only saying that because Cameron and Osborne told them to say that and they didn't want to upset the government.
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    ..................and tit for tat

    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...-cars-11413444

    ........Isn't it good to know, we'll soon be out of all this(?) and free to make out own super trade deals with the good old US of A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Surrey Shrimper View Post
    Farage should be livid that his dream is being ****ed up the wall.
    But we are getting blue passports again so that should cheer him up.
    Lord, in your mercy please give my friend a stroke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benfleet A1 View Post
    But we are getting blue passports again so that should cheer him up.
    Trouble is everyone will be to skint to go on holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benfleet A1 View Post
    But we are getting blue passports again so that should cheer him up.
    Not me,I renewed my burgundy one back in May.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire Blue View Post
    This was all covered in the Referendum.

    If you remember, Airbus are only saying that because Cameron and Osborne told them to say that and they didn't want to upset the government.
    It's been two years since the referendum now.Remember this is no longer project fear.It's "a dawning reality."

    See BMW have also now joined the chorus.https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44582831 Who's next?
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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