Budget destroyed....why?

buffalowolf said:

Our season has started just as last seasons did , its no fault of PBs ,it comes down to the fact that we have so many injuries so early in the season.Im sure once we are able to field a full strength team ,the results will come our way,at present all PB can do is hopefully plug those gaps especially in defence as best he can.Apparently Bwono played well on tuesday night reading the threads here,well that to begin with is a bonus,im sure Klass,Yearwood , Ba and Kyptonite will also learn and become good players for the club as they get more experience.Lets all get behind the club not put it down,we are after all called supporters so lets SUPPORT.

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mrsblue said:

Who makes these signing...Ron or Phil?....any football person knows you ain't doing much with a team of old players,The Gills league game had an average age of THIRTY...what a joke.

I don't understand the reasons.

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united we stand said:

. You do know Brazil won the World Cup with a team with an average age of over 30- is that "ain't doing not much". You like to make everything in football black and white / right or wrong - it isn't like that.
buying players is like buying a house and doing it up, you know what you want, and what you can actually afford, and you have to make compromises.

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Yorkshire Blue said:

If houses are the analogy then I'd want my manager to build a house, not buy one. When we pay for his salary we should be paying for the expertise of an experienced builder rather than the silver-tongued salesmanship of an estate agent.

Create it from the back up. Build it on solid foundations that would last.

Instead we've purchased buildings that are falling down. When cracks appear we don't address the underlying issues but just attempt to plaster over it and hope no-one notices by buying another soon to be condemned building that has been recently repainted.

It's just short term fix after short term fix.

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fbm said:

To be fair, modern day fans won't let anyone build anything unless they get it right first time.

The fan now pays too much money for their football and demands instant, or practically instant, success.

Managers don't have the luxury of knowing they have 2 or 3 seasons to bed a team in. Ron is brilliant when it comes to manager loyalty, but the fans are less forgiving. Mark my words - if we have a bad run now through September, most of the crowd will be calling for PB's head.

And to be fair, with signings like Ferdinand (who gave us a pretty good season last year), Turner, White and Kiernan, I would have thought that was a solid defensive foundation. The fact that they are all injured PLUS Coker is out for the long term and Demitriou is away on International duty isn't anyone's fault.

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Yorkshire Blue said:

Ferdinand, White and Turner are a foundation for a year at most. Kiernan's at least a player who could still be playing for us in two or three years' time (or earn us a transfer fee).

We can build with Kiernan, but the other three are only going to be temporary fixes. Having experience can be good but there's no balance between youth and experience as it's leaning far too far towards experience.

A good manager should be able to improve young players, not be reliant on players already coached up.

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Yorkshire Blue said:

Ferdinand, White and Turner are a foundation for a year at most. Kiernan's at least a player who could still be playing for us in two or three years' time (or earn us a transfer fee).

We can build with Kiernan, but the other three are only going to be temporary fixes. Having experience can be good but there's no balance between youth and experience as it's leaning far too far towards experience.

A good manager should be able to improve young players, not be reliant on players already coached up.

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fbm said:

To be fair, modern day fans won't let anyone build anything unless they get it right first time.

The fan now pays too much money for their football and demands instant, or practically instant, success.

Managers don't have the luxury of knowing they have 2 or 3 seasons to bed a team in. Ron is brilliant when it comes to manager loyalty, but the fans are less forgiving. Mark my words - if we have a bad run now through September, most of the crowd will be calling for PB's head.

And to be fair, with signings like Ferdinand (who gave us a pretty good season last year), Turner, White and Kiernan, I would have thought that was a solid defensive foundation. The fact that they are all injured PLUS Coker is out for the long term and Demitriou is away on International duty isn't anyone's fault.

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ms brush said:

I still don't see how anyone outside the management team at the club knows for definate that the budget has been destroyed...? Any more than anyone can look at the scruffy individual turning up at a car dealers, assume they don't have a pot to pee in and then he/ she pays cash for a brand new top of the range car - or the designer clad individual who lives the life, yet frequently raids the kids piggy bank to pay a £2 parking fee... there is far too much speculation, assumption and judgemental crap going on in this thread for my liking! :nope:

Bottom line is, we have a really decent squad, with a wealth of talent and experience, so despite my many misgivings about PB he has done a fantastic job of attracting some really good players to sign for us, and some of these players are very likely to be earning far less than the figures being paraded as fact. Some of these players are only going to be around for a year, and some for several years, but isn't that football? And even if the reports are true, does it really matter if the club has agreed expensive terms with a player and this is affordable? We have a bit of an injury crisis right now, which doesn't help, and we haven't had the best of starts to the season. But if we don't sign anyone today, in the bigger scheme of things that doesn't mean we can't afford to bring anyone else is, or that have destroyed the budget, or that no one wants to play for us.... it will just mean we haven't signed anyone!!

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ms brush said:

I still don't see how anyone outside the management team at the club knows for definate that the budget has been destroyed...? Any more than anyone can look at the scruffy individual turning up at a car dealers, assume they don't have a pot to pee in and then he/ she pays cash for a brand new top of the range car - or the designer clad individual who lives the life, yet frequently raids the kids piggy bank to pay a £2 parking fee... there is far too much speculation, assumption and judgemental crap going on in this thread for my liking! :nope:

Bottom line is, we have a really decent squad, with a wealth of talent and experience, so despite my many misgivings about PB he has done a fantastic job of attracting some really good players to sign for us, and some of these players are very likely to be earning far less than the figures being paraded as fact. Some of these players are only going to be around for a year, and some for several years, but isn't that football? And even if the reports are true, does it really matter if the club has agreed expensive terms with a player and this is affordable? We have a bit of an injury crisis right now, which doesn't help, and we haven't had the best of starts to the season. But if we don't sign anyone today, in the bigger scheme of things that doesn't mean we can't afford to bring anyone else is, or that have destroyed the budget, or that no one wants to play for us.... it will just mean we haven't signed anyone!!

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Tampa Blue said:

From Chris P on Twitter:

Brown says Harry Kyprianou and Dan Matsuzaka are in his thoughts. Also thinks Michael Timlin could play centre-back.

Brown said it was still too early to know how badly Anton Ferdinand and John White were injured. Says they're 50/50 for Saturday.

Brown: "We could have the under 18 defence playing on Saturday."

Brown: "I am looking at defenders now but I'm fully aware of the fact I've spent a large chunk of the budget in that area already."

An honest assessment from PB re the budget.

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ms brush said:

I still don't see how anyone outside the management team at the club knows for definate that the budget has been destroyed...? Any more than anyone can look at the scruffy individual turning up at a car dealers, assume they don't have a pot to pee in and then he/ she pays cash for a brand new top of the range car - or the designer clad individual who lives the life, yet frequently raids the kids piggy bank to pay a £2 parking fee... there is far too much speculation, assumption and judgemental crap going on in this thread for my liking! :nope:

Bottom line is, we have a really decent squad, with a wealth of talent and experience, so despite my many misgivings about PB he has done a fantastic job of attracting some really good players to sign for us, and some of these players are very likely to be earning far less than the figures being paraded as fact. Some of these players are only going to be around for a year, and some for several years, but isn't that football? And even if the reports are true, does it really matter if the club has agreed expensive terms with a player and this is affordable? We have a bit of an injury crisis right now, which doesn't help, and we haven't had the best of starts to the season. But if we don't sign anyone today, in the bigger scheme of things that doesn't mean we can't afford to bring anyone else is, or that have destroyed the budget, or that no one wants to play for us.... it will just mean we haven't signed anyone!!

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mrsblue said:

crazyworldofsufc

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