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    Quote Originally Posted by rigsby View Post
    Big deal. He is throwing the mob a bone and they will be smugly satisfied whilst his real agenda continues. Like creating a war with North Korea and backing Israeli expansion in the ME

    Whether he cuts a ribbon in London or not makes no difference to us but will gain him further support from the paranoid Americans who vote for him.



    You still denying the 300,000 "ninos robados" ......There you go that should help your research
    No but he lied about his reasons for not coming to the UK.Typical childish behaviour on his part.

    (I''ll check out the "ninos robados " story tomorrow when I've got a bit more time.

    Btw,I'm not reposonsible for everything that happens in Spain you know).
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    No but he lied about his reasons for not coming to the UK.Typical childish behaviour on his part.

    (I''ll check out the "ninos robados " story tomorrow when I've got a bit more time.

    Btw,I'm not reposonsible for everything that happens in Spain you know).
    I'm sure your not.

    To believe that Trump decides things on a stupid whim is naïve at best.

    Just like every President since JFK he is backed by the worlds most powerful people and every thing he does is working to their plan......If we in Britain now speak up on behalf of the Palestinians or are the voice of reason when they crank up the anti on NK, we will be dismissed as lily livered liberal pansies with no stomach for war. Remember what happened when the French rightly pointed out that there was no real evidence that Saddam had any WOMD, let alone any intention of using them against the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manor15 View Post
    You do realise that there can be more than one thing that people protest about in a city?
    Of course. You do realise the protest i'm referring to was specifically about tourism

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/...rites-11247370

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...touristgohome/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...-protests.html

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/454227...rist-protests/
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    Ron has worked his socks off over many years and had many a sleepless night in his heroic attempt to keep this club afloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    Quite frankly I'm unaware of the protests you're talking about.Got a link?
    See above.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by manor15 View Post
    Yes. And I also realise that there were similar protests in Barcelona as TUIB said, which you claimed were only about independence.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...led-by-tourism

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40960443

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ne...protests-grow/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ona-beach.html
    It was irrelevant, as I wasn't initially referring to Barcelona. However, I'll include it into my earlier point if that makes you both happier?

    Thousands of residents protesting on the streets of Barcelona & Majorca, opposing the influx of foreigners. That is predjudice & discrimination, the very definition of racism.

    Now trawl back through the various immigration threads on this site, and see the usual faces vilifying & condemning right-wing posters for less, yet staying silent on this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rigsby View Post
    I'm sure your not.

    To believe that Trump decides things on a stupid whim is naïve at best.

    Just like every President since JFK he is backed by the worlds most powerful people and every thing he does is working to their plan......If we in Britain now speak up on behalf of the Palestinians or are the voice of reason when they crank up the anti on NK, we will be dismissed as lily livered liberal pansies with no stomach for war. Remember what happened when the French rightly pointed out that there was no real evidence that Saddam had any WOMD, let alone any intention of using them against the West.
    Don't think I've ever suggested that.Though I do happen to believe that Twitter is an infantile medium at best.


    Quote Originally Posted by GBJ View Post
    It was irrelevant, as I wasn't initially referring to Barcelona. However, I'll include it into my earlier point if that makes you both happier?

    Thousands of residents protesting on the streets of Barcelona & Majorca, opposing the influx of foreigners. That is predjudice & discrimination, the very definition of racism.

    Now trawl back through the various immigration threads on this site, and see the usual faces vilifying & condemning right-wing posters for less, yet staying silent on this matter.
    More like hundreds rather than thousands.That's hardly news anyway,it goes back to last summer and before.Though with respect to Barna, it's more to do with the pressure on accomodation in the centre of town -largely through Air b and b short term holiday lets-rather than " predjudice & discrimination " or even "racism"as such.The word you're looking for here is xenophobia, btw .Even in the case of Majorca, much of the private property on the island is owned by foreigners,especially Germans.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    Don't think I've ever suggested that.Though I do happen to believe that Twitter is an infantile medium at best.

    More like hundreds rather than thousands.That's hardly news anyway,it goes back to last summer and before.Though with respect to Barna, it's more to do with the pressure on accomodation in the centre of town -largely through Air b and b short term holiday lets-rather than " predjudice & discrimination " or even "racism" as such.Even in the case of Majorca, much of the private property on the island is owned by foreigners,especially Germans.
    Well at least we can agree on that.

    The people behind Trump are fooling you all. So why you squabble over tweets or think its a great victory because he cancelled a visit to London. We are still killing innocent women and children and the people who really run the world can plan their next phase without fear of anyone in the Western world lifting a finger to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rigsby View Post
    Well at least we can agree on that.

    The people behind Trump are fooling you all. So why you squabble over tweets or think its a great victory because he cancelled a visit to London. We are still killing innocent women and children and the people who really run the world can plan their next phase without fear of anyone in the Western world lifting a finger to stop it.
    If this is some sort of conspiracy theory, you might at least make it clear what you mean.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    If this is some sort of conspiracy theory, you might at least make it clear what you mean.
    I'd hazard a guess that RIGSBY means the huge multinational corporations that wield immense and dangerous influence throughout the corridors of power of various Western nations.

    The military industrial complex (MIC) of the United States (in particular) and it's associated conglomerates who dictate both national political policy and international foreign policy (Northrup Grummen, Lockhead Martin, Raytheon, GDC etc etc)

    The rich and powerful of this world, the Murdochs and Rothschilds to name but two of many, who lobby politicians incessantly to further their own corporate ends.

    Trump is just a mere pawn in a game. A game that's been going on since the 1920's, and probably further back than that if you dig deep enough, and will continue unabated for decades to come.

    Que the 'loony tune conspiracy theory' comments. Nothing more than I expect but until you do the research comments such as that are meaningless to me and millions of others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bielzibubz View Post
    I'd hazard a guess that RIGSBY means the huge multinational corporations that wield immense and dangerous influence throughout the corridors of power of various Western nations.

    The military industrial complex (MIC) of the United States (in particular) and it's associated conglomerates who dictate both national political policy and international foreign policy (Northrup Grummen, Lockhead Martin, Raytheon, GDC etc etc)

    The rich and powerful of this world, the Murdochs and Rothschilds to name but two of many, who lobby politicians incessantly to further their own corporate ends.

    Trump is just a mere pawn in a game. A game that's been going on since the 1920's, and probably further back than that if you dig deep enough, and will continue unabated for decades to come.

    Que the 'loony tune conspiracy theory' comments. Nothing more than I expect but until you do the research comments such as that are meaningless to me and millions of others.
    Thanks Bielzibubz, you have explained it better than me.

    The very dangerous total imbalance of power you mention was warned about by President Eisenhower when he was leaving office. A simple search on YouTube will find it. As will JFK's speech on the same subject and secret world wide societies. JFK wanted to end the US involvement in the Vietnam war and stop nuclear support for Israel.....Either one of those could get you killed....President Johnson and his cronies made £billions from the 10 year war.

    They no longer take any chances and have both candidates in their back pocket. For example Bush and Kerry were both in the secret Skull and Bones society in Yale.....Sworn to protect each other even for murder. No wonder Kerry never complained after he actually won the 2000 election....Always had a very lucrative job ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rigsby View Post
    Thanks Bielzibubz, you have explained it better than me.

    The very dangerous total imbalance of power you mention was warned about by President Eisenhower when he was leaving office. A simple search on YouTube will find it. As will JFK's speech on the same subject and secret world wide societies. JFK wanted to end the US involvement in the Vietnam war and stop nuclear support for Israel.....Either one of those could get you killed....President Johnson and his cronies made £billions from the 10 year war.

    They no longer take any chances and have both candidates in their back pocket. For example Bush and Kerry were both in the secret Skull and Bones society in Yale.....Sworn to protect each other even for murder. No wonder Kerry never complained after he actually won the 2000 election....Always had a very lucrative job ever since.
    The Eisenhower stuff is hardly news.The rest is pure conspiracy theory nonsense.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangled up in Blue View Post
    The Eisenhower stuff is hardly news.The rest is pure conspiracy theory nonsense.
    It's not theory nonsense if you just actually take the time to research it in detail and not dismiss it out of hand as so many are wont to do. I'm not going to go into detail but TUIB, please, take the time out to broaden your indoctrinated way of thinking. There are reams and reams of printed and well documented information out there printed by perfectly intelligent people with no axes to grind and also countless hours of perfectly legitimate video that will go a long way to explaining the reasons why people like myself and Rigsby think the way we do.

    We're not flat Earthers by any means and we're not Area 51 UFO space alien weirdos either. What we are a two of many millions that can see way beneath the political and social mantra that's espoused by out ruling elite and has been for generations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bielzibubz View Post
    It's not theory nonsense if you just actually take the time to research it in detail and not dismiss it out of hand as so many are wont to do. I'm not going to go into detail but TUIB, please, take the time out to broaden your indoctrinated way of thinking. There are reams and reams of printed and well documented information out there printed by perfectly intelligent people with no axes to grind and also countless hours of perfectly legitimate video that will go a long way to explaining the reasons why people like myself and Rigsby think the way we do.

    We're not flat Earthers by any means and we're not Area 51 UFO space alien weirdos either. What we are a two of many millions that can see way beneath the political and social mantra that's espoused by out ruling elite and has been for generations.
    Yeah, but Madrid is nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benfleet A1 View Post
    Yeah, but Madrid is nice.
    Not as nice as Barcelona.
    "The British government is free to make a decision about its participation in the World Cup," he said.

    But nobody has the right to insult the Russian people - who defeated Nazism and lost more than 25 million people - by comparing our country to Nazi Germany.

    That goes beyond common sense."

    Alexander Yakovencko.Russian Ambassador to the UK:

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