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Survey on attitudes to female referees

If people are focusing on the sex of the referee rather than the competence of the referee, then they are the ones with the problem. More female referees and fewer people like that in the game please.

Nice thoughts but that won't stop problems. If you want women to succeed in a mans world then you have to predict what problems they are going to face and do something about it in advance. I don't think professional football is likely to be capable of doing that.
 
Sian Massey-Ellis is one of the best linos in the Premier League so she's already shown that female officials can do the job if they're good enough, the only person that I know that complained about her was Andy Grey after she disallowed a goal, and the replays showed she'd got the call right anyway so he looked like an idiot. Bibiana Steinhausus is a referee in the German Bundesliga as well and she seems to be doing a good job without people getting on her back.
 
Nice thoughts but that won't stop problems. If you want women to succeed in a mans world then you have to predict what problems they are going to face and do something about it in advance. I don't think professional football is likely to be capable of doing that.

What ‘problems’ ???
 
What ‘problems’ ???

The attitude towards referees full stop. The behaviour of the players on the pitch, security having to escort them off the pitch. Mangers winging in interviews and then the likes of MOTD making any decision the first talking point for the pundits.

Very few ex players take up refereeing and is any wonder local leagues struggle to attract them because the abuse starts with parents setting shocking examples to young children. Certainly not something I would ever considered doing. I've given plenty of young girls/women encouragement in sport but would never recommend being a football ref.

So on that note it should not have to be only for the most thick skinned of women. If we end up with a token few here and there that is not a success.
 
Similar situations apply to both men and women, so whats the specific problem for women asides ?? Just because you don’t recommend it is totally irrelevant. As for ‘thick skinned’ women comment, what utter twaddle !
 
The attitude towards referees full stop. The behaviour of the players on the pitch, security having to escort them off the pitch. Mangers winging in interviews and then the likes of MOTD making any decision the first talking point for the pundits.

Very few ex players take up refereeing and is any wonder local leagues struggle to attract them because the abuse starts with parents setting shocking examples to young children. Certainly not something I would ever considered doing. I've given plenty of young girls/women encouragement in sport but would never recommend being a football ref.

So on that note it should not have to be only for the most thick skinned of women. If we end up with a token few here and there that is not a success.

I know plenty of women that handle abuse far better than men, plenty of women shrug abuse off and just write it off as one idiot whilst some men (not all) get aggressive and will rant about it for ages, completely oblivious to how it proves how much the insult got under their skin.
 
The attitude towards referees full stop. The behaviour of the players on the pitch, security having to escort them off the pitch. Mangers winging in interviews and then the likes of MOTD making any decision the first talking point for the pundits.

Very few ex players take up refereeing and is any wonder local leagues struggle to attract them because the abuse starts with parents setting shocking examples to young children. Certainly not something I would ever considered doing. I've given plenty of young girls/women encouragement in sport but would never recommend being a football ref.

So on that note it should not have to be only for the most thick skinned of women. If we end up with a token few here and there that is not a success.
So the solution to (mainly) male behaviour/abuse is that women should be denied a career path that they may wish to pursue?

Players and fans will be abusive to refs irrespective of their gender, so let's try and sort that out, rather than tacitly accepting it.

Women work in our emergency services, prisons, armed forces, nightclub security, personal protection, politics, schools etc. Some tough jobs that are under-paid and where people are subjected to daily abuse and potential violence. I think there are a lot of women in the world who could handle being a professional football referee.
 
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So the solution to (mainly) male behaviour/abuse is that women should be denied a career path that they may wish to pursue?

Players and fans will be abusive to refs irrespective of their gender, so let's try and sort that out, rather than tacitly accepting it.

Women work in our emergency services, prisons, armed forces, nightclub security, personal protection, politics, schools etc. Some tough jobs that are under-paid and where people are subjected to daily abuse and potential violence. I think there are a lots of women in the world who could handle being a professional football referee.

A lot of jobs you mention, women have a higher turn over rate than men. Abuse is often the reason they leave and no its certainly not just men who do the abusing or have a negative attitude. The only time I was punched while in uniform was by a women. Far more women have said to me they don't think females should be fire fighters than men. Plenty of mums aren't shy on the touch lines of kids football and I've even had to stop a kids quick cricket match for mixed 10 year olds to speak to parents.

One of the reasons females had such a high leaving rate in the early days of the LFB was down to the people in charge insisting there is no difference between males and females. They were never given their own changing facilities etc. It was only when £10m was found to improve changing facilities etc that things improved. Incredible that was 20 years after they first were allowed to join. They also gave far more thought about where they placed females and what support they would need amongst each other.

Football as an industry is certainly very male and compared to any other profession is run to embarrassingly poor standards. So for that reason I don't think they will ever take on board the lessons painfully learnt with females entering other mans world industries.

One thing is for certain you can't just say there you go girls.....get on with it.

And your right the world needs to show more respect to people doing certain jobs or volunteering for local sport.
 
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Funny enough once upon a time, knuckle heads said you would never get a decent female jockey, how wrong they are nowadays, so hope for women who try to break into such a macho sport( as perceived by some)

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