Post-Match Thread and Ratings Scunthorpe United 4-0 Southend United

Quick question....how many braved yesterday's debacle...? And fair play to you all :clap:

We are very poor at the moment and have been for a while. Fans generally blame the manager, and the manager blames the players. He also blames the agents because he can't attract the players he wants. I personally believe that too many of our players we have aren't up to this level, but that's not their fault. Brown brings players in and then says they're not good enough! I do however think that a different manager, with better motivational skills, better man management skills and some actual grasp on tactics would get far more out of this group of players.

Benfleet A1 said:

No, but it's getting close.

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I bet against us, something I have never done. Says it all.

bazzashrimper said:

We are bookies favourites to get relegated.

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We should not get relegated. If Brown fails to find some form with us this season our chairman will turn to someone else - and his track record isn't half bad when it comes to appointing managers. There's enough in this squad for the new man to keep us up - my only concern is too much quantity and not enough quality at centre half - hopefully Inniss can offer something there. The chairman will be mindful of managers with solid CVs at this level and who are out of work, such as Kenny Jackett.

I feel for Ted Smith,we are poor, Brown goes on about quality players we dont have players of the kind, for Clark to call our forward a coward just about sums up the team that Brown has brought in, total shambles, Brown screwed up last year after Swindon defeat, Prosser walked, Bolger went, Worral did not want to play for Brown anymore, the amount of back room staff Brown brought in is rediculus for a league one team, he wanted to sign an international striker, total rubbish the last best striker we signed came from Grays Feddie Eastwood, Brown will send us back to league two, Ron Martin wake up before its to late. I could go on ans on !!!!!

greyerfox said:

We hit balls to Mooney in the air and their CB had him in his pocket all day long.!

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This is what so frustrates me. We do this game after game, why???. There just seems to be no tactical plan week after week.
As someone said after the Fleetwood game, they had 2 massive centre backs, yet we still kept pumping it high to Mooney & Cox.
Surely the other players can comprehend this ploy is fruitless, yet they continued to do it???. And if Brown is unable to come up with plan B, during games like this, then I seriously worry about our survival chances this season.

greyerfox said:

Scunny's budget must be less than ours

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no chance. they are being bankrolled by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Swann this fella worth £340m at last count and his wife who has recently sold her 50% share in Wilkinson 'Wilco'. they have ambitious plans for a new stadium and expect to get out of league 1 this season.

Eddy Melito said:

no chance. they are being bankrolled by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Swann this fella worth £340m at last count and his wife who has recently sold her 50% share in Wilkinson 'Wilco'. they have ambitious plans for a new stadium and expect to get out of league 1 this season.

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That has a strangely familiar ring to it.

rhrussell said:

Worrall did not want to play for Brown anymore

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Wrong. Rat boy was sobbing his heart out to anyone who would listen at the sponsors' do about how he hadn't been offered a new contract and would stay if he had. I have a strong suspicion that he might have had something to do with leaking the news about Kavanagh going to Millwall earlier than what was intended too.

Billy Bests boot laces said:

This is what so frustrates me. We do this game after game, why???. There just seems to be no tactical plan week after week.
As someone said after the Fleetwood game, they had 2 massive centre backs, yet we still kept pumping it high to Mooney & Cox.
Surely the other players can comprehend this ploy is fruitless, yet they continued to do it???. And if Brown is unable to come up with plan B, during games like this, then I seriously worry about our survival chances this season.

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If we can all see it...

Eddy Melito said:

no chance. they are being bankrolled by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Swann this fella worth £340m at last count and his wife who has recently sold her 50% share in Wilkinson 'Wilco'. they have ambitious plans for a new stadium and expect to get out of league 1 this season.

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That is big plans, glanford park is less than 30 years old!

OldBlueLady said:

Wrong. Rat boy was sobbing his heart out to anyone who would listen at the sponsors' do about how he hadn't been offered a new contract and would stay if he had. I have a strong suspicion that he might have had something to do with leaking the news about Kavanagh going to Millwall earlier than what was intended too.

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You really don't like him do you.

Try putting your claws away.

We miss him dreadfully and his contract should have been sorted with Payne's.

Where do you stand on the current fiasco with Lenny?

OldBlueLady said:

Wrong. Rat boy was sobbing his heart out to anyone who would listen at the sponsors' do about how he hadn't been offered a new contract and would stay if he had. I have a strong suspicion that he might have had something to do with leaking the news about Kavanagh going to Millwall earlier than what was intended too.

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Rat boy? What's that name in aid of?

OldBlueLady said:

Wrong. Rat boy was sobbing his heart out to anyone who would listen at the sponsors' do about how he hadn't been offered a new contract and would stay if he had. I have a strong suspicion that he might have had something to do with leaking the news about Kavanagh going to Millwall earlier than what was intended too.

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Not wrong at all. Worrall was offered a new contract criminally late, but he WAS offered one, and if he wanted to stay as much as stories of him "sobbing" about not being offered one suggest then he'd have swallowed his pride and signed it. His poor relationship with Brown and Brown's relatively poor treatment of him especially in the second half of the season played a huge role in his ultimate decision to see his contract out and walk.


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I got the impression the club handled Worrall's situation regarding his son extremely sensitively at the time, including PB himself.

On the playing side, there were issues between the two, it appeared.

*duplicated*

mfurok said:

You really don't like him do you.

Try putting your claws away.

We miss him dreadfully and his contract should have been sorted with Payne's.

Where do you stand on the current fiasco with Lenny?

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No, you're wrong, he was one of my favourite players but his behaviour at the end of the season, particularly being the only player not to turn up for the Trust end of season awards and his behaviour at that sponsors' do really annoyed me. I don't appreciate being taken for a fool.

I don't know why he wasn't offered a contract earlier, maybe his off the field behaviour was a factor in that.

As for Leonard, I've said elsewhere, he's being asked to do too much on the pitch....constantly dropping into whichever defensive position has been vacated by someone getting caught up the pitch, as well as trying to pick passes and the occasional foray forward. He is vital to our side, our best asset. His contract needs sorting asap.

Blues4LifeDan said:

Rat boy? What's that name in aid of?

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It was his nickname amongst the players.

JamesTheSuperBlue said:

Not wrong at all. Worrall was offered a new contract criminally late, but he WAS offered one, and if he wanted to stay as much as stories of him "sobbing" about not being offered one suggest then he'd have swallowed his pride and signed it. His poor relationship with Brown and Brown's relatively poor treatment of him especially in the second half of the season played a huge role in his ultimate decision to see his contract out and walk.

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It was wrong though. Maybe he wasn't actually "sobbing", but he was very despondent and had tears in his eyes. I saw and heard him with my own eyes and ears. Not hearsay, not from Tilly's golf partner's milkman's neighbour' sister.

We know there had been issues with his behaviour but he was cut quite a lot of slack because of the personal tragedy concerning his baby. Pure speculation, but maybe he was given a set of conditions that he was asked to meet regarding his reliability, and maybe he didn't and that was why he wasn't offered a new contract early.

I was gutted he went but there was undoubtedly a side to him that Brown found difficult to deal with.

SUFCStu said:

Brown: "In the second half there were one or two out there who didn't care."

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This statement I find very worrying.

Ok OBL, didnt know that was his nickname. I do think when such a horrendous thing happens in your private life it doesn't just go away after a few months. It can affect you for a long time, probably forever. It also makes you do things differently in your day to day life. Whatever happened between him and the club, it isn't just plain black and white and therefore, we as fans, shouldn't take sides either way. We aren't in charge of the true facts from either side. The only facts we do know, is he moved to a club with a better chance for promotion, plays for a manager who plays a simple attacking 4-4-2, which suits him. More importantly, sometimes a fresh start after such a horrible time in your home life is all you need.

Rootshallbloke said:

That has a strangely familiar ring to it.

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But unlike us it's more likely to happen!