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The Spain thread


It was irrelevant, as I wasn't initially referring to Barcelona. However, I'll include it into my earlier point if that makes you both happier?

Thousands of residents protesting on the streets of Barcelona & Majorca, opposing the influx of foreigners. That is predjudice & discrimination, the very definition of racism.

Now trawl back through the various immigration threads on this site, and see the usual faces vilifying & condemning right-wing posters for less, yet staying silent on this matter.
 
I'm sure your not.

To believe that Trump decides things on a stupid whim is naïve at best.

Just like every President since JFK he is backed by the worlds most powerful people and every thing he does is working to their plan......If we in Britain now speak up on behalf of the Palestinians or are the voice of reason when they crank up the anti on NK, we will be dismissed as lily livered liberal pansies with no stomach for war. Remember what happened when the French rightly pointed out that there was no real evidence that Saddam had any WOMD, let alone any intention of using them against the West.

Don't think I've ever suggested that.Though I do happen to believe that Twitter is an infantile medium at best.


It was irrelevant, as I wasn't initially referring to Barcelona. However, I'll include it into my earlier point if that makes you both happier?

Thousands of residents protesting on the streets of Barcelona & Majorca, opposing the influx of foreigners. That is predjudice & discrimination, the very definition of racism.

Now trawl back through the various immigration threads on this site, and see the usual faces vilifying & condemning right-wing posters for less, yet staying silent on this matter.

More like hundreds rather than thousands.That's hardly news anyway,it goes back to last summer and before.Though with respect to Barna, it's more to do with the pressure on accomodation in the centre of town -largely through Air b and b short term holiday lets-rather than " predjudice & discrimination " or even "racism"as such.The word you're looking for here is xenophobia, btw .Even in the case of Majorca, much of the private property on the island is owned by foreigners,especially Germans.
 
Don't think I've ever suggested that.Though I do happen to believe that Twitter is an infantile medium at best.

More like hundreds rather than thousands.That's hardly news anyway,it goes back to last summer and before.Though with respect to Barna, it's more to do with the pressure on accomodation in the centre of town -largely through Air b and b short term holiday lets-rather than " predjudice & discrimination " or even "racism" as such.Even in the case of Majorca, much of the private property on the island is owned by foreigners,especially Germans.

Well at least we can agree on that.

The people behind Trump are fooling you all. So why you squabble over tweets or think its a great victory because he cancelled a visit to London. We are still killing innocent women and children and the people who really run the world can plan their next phase without fear of anyone in the Western world lifting a finger to stop it.
 
Well at least we can agree on that.

The people behind Trump are fooling you all. So why you squabble over tweets or think its a great victory because he cancelled a visit to London. We are still killing innocent women and children and the people who really run the world can plan their next phase without fear of anyone in the Western world lifting a finger to stop it.

If this is some sort of conspiracy theory, you might at least make it clear what you mean.
 
If this is some sort of conspiracy theory, you might at least make it clear what you mean.

I'd hazard a guess that RIGSBY means the huge multinational corporations that wield immense and dangerous influence throughout the corridors of power of various Western nations.

The military industrial complex (MIC) of the United States (in particular) and it's associated conglomerates who dictate both national political policy and international foreign policy (Northrup Grummen, Lockhead Martin, Raytheon, GDC etc etc)

The rich and powerful of this world, the Murdochs and Rothschilds to name but two of many, who lobby politicians incessantly to further their own corporate ends.

Trump is just a mere pawn in a game. A game that's been going on since the 1920's, and probably further back than that if you dig deep enough, and will continue unabated for decades to come.

Que the 'loony tune conspiracy theory' comments. Nothing more than I expect but until you do the research comments such as that are meaningless to me and millions of others.
 
I'd hazard a guess that RIGSBY means the huge multinational corporations that wield immense and dangerous influence throughout the corridors of power of various Western nations.

The military industrial complex (MIC) of the United States (in particular) and it's associated conglomerates who dictate both national political policy and international foreign policy (Northrup Grummen, Lockhead Martin, Raytheon, GDC etc etc)

The rich and powerful of this world, the Murdochs and Rothschilds to name but two of many, who lobby politicians incessantly to further their own corporate ends.

Trump is just a mere pawn in a game. A game that's been going on since the 1920's, and probably further back than that if you dig deep enough, and will continue unabated for decades to come.

Que the 'loony tune conspiracy theory' comments. Nothing more than I expect but until you do the research comments such as that are meaningless to me and millions of others.

Thanks Bielzibubz, you have explained it better than me.

The very dangerous total imbalance of power you mention was warned about by President Eisenhower when he was leaving office. A simple search on YouTube will find it. As will JFK's speech on the same subject and secret world wide societies. JFK wanted to end the US involvement in the Vietnam war and stop nuclear support for Israel.....Either one of those could get you killed....President Johnson and his cronies made £billions from the 10 year war.

They no longer take any chances and have both candidates in their back pocket. For example Bush and Kerry were both in the secret Skull and Bones society in Yale.....Sworn to protect each other even for murder. No wonder Kerry never complained after he actually won the 2000 election....Always had a very lucrative job ever since.
 
Thanks Bielzibubz, you have explained it better than me.

The very dangerous total imbalance of power you mention was warned about by President Eisenhower when he was leaving office. A simple search on YouTube will find it. As will JFK's speech on the same subject and secret world wide societies. JFK wanted to end the US involvement in the Vietnam war and stop nuclear support for Israel.....Either one of those could get you killed....President Johnson and his cronies made £billions from the 10 year war.

They no longer take any chances and have both candidates in their back pocket. For example Bush and Kerry were both in the secret Skull and Bones society in Yale.....Sworn to protect each other even for murder. No wonder Kerry never complained after he actually won the 2000 election....Always had a very lucrative job ever since.

The Eisenhower stuff is hardly news.The rest is pure conspiracy theory nonsense.
 
The Eisenhower stuff is hardly news.The rest is pure conspiracy theory nonsense.

It's not theory nonsense if you just actually take the time to research it in detail and not dismiss it out of hand as so many are wont to do. I'm not going to go into detail but TUIB, please, take the time out to broaden your indoctrinated way of thinking. There are reams and reams of printed and well documented information out there printed by perfectly intelligent people with no axes to grind and also countless hours of perfectly legitimate video that will go a long way to explaining the reasons why people like myself and Rigsby think the way we do.

We're not flat Earthers by any means and we're not Area 51 UFO space alien weirdos either. What we are a two of many millions that can see way beneath the political and social mantra that's espoused by out ruling elite and has been for generations.
 
It's not theory nonsense if you just actually take the time to research it in detail and not dismiss it out of hand as so many are wont to do. I'm not going to go into detail but TUIB, please, take the time out to broaden your indoctrinated way of thinking. There are reams and reams of printed and well documented information out there printed by perfectly intelligent people with no axes to grind and also countless hours of perfectly legitimate video that will go a long way to explaining the reasons why people like myself and Rigsby think the way we do.

We're not flat Earthers by any means and we're not Area 51 UFO space alien weirdos either. What we are a two of many millions that can see way beneath the political and social mantra that's espoused by out ruling elite and has been for generations.

Yeah, but Madrid is nice.
 
We're not flat Earthers by any means and we're not Area 51 UFO space alien weirdos either. What we are a two of many millions that can see way beneath the political and social mantra that's espoused by out ruling elite and has been for generations.

This.....

You really only have to ask yourself how it was possible to put men on the moon in the 1960s yet are unable to find a suitable and sustainable alternative to petrol / diesel cars fifty years later. You also then need to ask why PotUS continues to demonise "********" countries, he is still loves the worst of them all, Saudi Arabia. And then to cap it off take a look at the amount of oil flowing from Saudi Arabia to the US and her allies, alongside the number of weapons currently reigning down on Yemen and where they come from.
 
Spain, Greece, Portugal, Bulgaria, Romania, rural south Italy, rural France, all areas/countries where peasant practices regarding taxation, central government, EU standards, and "incomers" are all accepted on a "take it or leave it" and arbitrary fashion if acted upon.
Conspiracy of big multi national? yes it exists, maybe not always as a design in these companies plans but they certainly flex their power and influence for their own ends with a cavalier "let them eat cake" style condescension on mere average folk.
 
The Eisenhower stuff is hardly news.The rest is pure conspiracy theory nonsense.

After you have managed to google these three words "lost Spanish babies' then go on to youtube.... JFK the speech that killed him is only 5:23 long......Or listen to the longer version if you like....He is actually pleading with the press to help him.

Going back over 140 years the industrial and Banking elite started to control the press in the US. Obviously there was no radio, TV or internet back then but they realised how important it was to control the media. As did the Nazi's with the invention of radio etc. Why do you think the BBC was created and controlled for so long.

Even in the 80's there were around 50 different companies that owned the US media but now everything is owned by just 6 huge, powerful and totally corrupt corporations. You can include Hollywood in that as well.

When you have managed those two simple tasks and learnt how easily you have been conned by the very country you have adopted I'll explain how simple it is for them to achieve it

The only problem is under US military studies the easiest people to control are the ones who even if they are presented with 100% proof they still go into denial for various reasons......Believe it or not this covers around 75% of the population.

As Mark Twain said "Its easer to fool people, rather than get them to admit they have been fooled"
 
Morning Tangled hope you haven't forgot to do your homework on this thread. I mean you can't go around making libellous statements and then hide.....You would lose credibility.
 
So bizarre that one person is held responsible for everything that has ever happened in Spain just because he lives there.

I live in England so I guess I'm at fault for Thatcher, the Spice Girls, the Yorkshire Ripper and Cash In The Attic.
 
So bizarre that one person is held responsible for everything that has ever happened in Spain just because he lives there.

I live in England so I guess I'm at fault for Thatcher, the Spice Girls, the Yorkshire Ripper and Cash In The Attic.

Your not denying the existence of the Yorkshire ripper are you....That's the difference.

By the why you cant claim the credit for Mrs Thatcher. You would have handed the Falklands to a right wing fascist dictator who abducted and tortured any of his own people who were considered left wing or socialist.
 
I'd hazard a guess that RIGSBY means the huge multinational corporations that wield immense and dangerous influence throughout the corridors of power of various Western nations.

The military industrial complex (MIC) of the United States (in particular) and it's associated conglomerates who dictate both national political policy and international foreign policy (Northrup Grummen, Lockhead Martin, Raytheon, GDC etc etc)

The rich and powerful of this world, the Murdochs and Rothschilds to name but two of many, who lobby politicians incessantly to further their own corporate ends.

Trump is just a mere pawn in a game. A game that's been going on since the 1920's, and probably further back than that if you dig deep enough, and will continue unabated for decades to come.

Que the 'loony tune conspiracy theory' comments. Nothing more than I expect but until you do the research comments such as that are meaningless to me and millions of others.

Thanks Bielzibubz, you have explained it better than me.

The very dangerous total imbalance of power you mention was warned about by President Eisenhower when he was leaving office. A simple search on YouTube will find it. As will JFK's speech on the same subject and secret world wide societies. JFK wanted to end the US involvement in the Vietnam war and stop nuclear support for Israel.....Either one of those could get you killed....President Johnson and his cronies made £billions from the 10 year war.

They no longer take any chances and have both candidates in their back pocket. For example Bush and Kerry were both in the secret Skull and Bones society in Yale.....Sworn to protect each other even for murder. No wonder Kerry never complained after he actually won the 2000 election....Always had a very lucrative job ever since.

What's weird is that those bemoaning corporate power voted Leave when the EU stands up to corporations/military industrial complex far more than the UK/US governments and the vote has pushed us ever closer to them.
 
What's weird is that those bemoaning corporate power voted Leave when the EU stands up to corporations/military industrial complex far more than the UK/US governments and the vote has pushed us ever closer to them.

No it doesn't its part of the problem...Hence they have done nothing about the 300,000 missing Spanish babies.

Luckily the majority of us Brits know that. You remainers will of course look back and realise it one day, without ever admitting it of course.
 
No it doesn't its part of the problem...Hence they have done nothing about the 300,000 missing Spanish babies.

Luckily the majority of us Brits know that. You remainers will of course look back and realise it one day, without ever admitting it of course.

I just read a piece on the lost children of Francoism. Interesting. Yes, it's a Spanish issue, not an EU one. And it's complicated. Post-transitional justice is. Read the link. http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1176&context=hsshonors
 
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