Can We Sign A Penalty Taker Please !

[ColinMorrisWalksOnWater]

But he took it properly, the others should learn. Weymouths keeper had a good game and read most of the situations well, Powell should have realised that.

I'm in the Paul Clark camp here, the keeper completely mugged Powell off. Showed him 2/3 of the goal, just before the kick moved back to the centre then dived to the side he's shown Powell the bigger part of the goal. If Powell had put his foot through the ball he'd probably still beaten the keeper, but placing it, went straight for the set up the keeper was hoping for.

Best penalty taker I have ever seen was Ray Stewart at West Ham (unfortunately), closely followed by Alan Moody! (Those of us that were there, how much pressure was there on that penalty @ Vicarage Road?!) Both of those two mentioned were defenders.

Doesn't always have to be a striker taking them, but penalty taking IS a special skill and we need a player PLUS a regular stand-in if the main man is off the pitch.

It's more about the strike on the ball whatever the technique. Stewart put his laces through the ball and took the keeper in the net if he went the right way, but knew how to keep the ball low, so never did a Chris Waddle. Moody was a side footer, but with power as well, and the speed on the ball is the secret for me.

Probably worth 5-8 goals a season depending how much penetration a team has into an opponents penalty area.

Easily worth half a dozen points over a season for a competent penalty taker. Cost us another two yesterday, luckily the season was over for us, but if we were playing for a play off place then could be costly, so it must be sorted.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

At least one of the players we are very interested in is the Club’s penalty taker, and has a very impressive record from the spot.

I wonder who ?

 

[Rayleigh boy]

it is really totally incompetent for a professional football team to have such a disgraceful record from the spot ..

in a game of small margins not getting this right is a total sh+tshow ..

(btw - how can anyone point the finger at Dennis.. .. I don't think he has missed one .. or has he ?)

 

[OldBlueLady]

I'm in the Paul Clark camp here, the keeper completely mugged Powell off. Showed him 2/3 of the goal, just before the kick moved back to the centre then dived to the side he's shown Powell the bigger part of the goal. If Powell had put his foot through the ball he'd probably still beat the keeper, but placing it, went straight for the set up the keeper was hoping for.

Best penalty taker I have ever seen was Ray Stewart at West Ham (unfortunately), closely followed by Alan Moody! (Those of us that were there, how much pressure was there on that penalty @ Vicarage Road?!) Both of those two mentioned were defenders.

Doesn't always have to be a striker taking them, but penalty taking IS a special skill and we need a player PLUS a regular stand-in if the main man is off the pitch.

It's more about the strike on the ball whatever the technique. Stewart put his laces through the ball and took the keeper in the net if he went the right way, but knew how to keep the ball low, so never did a Chris Waddle. Moody was a side footer, but with power as well, and the speed on the ball is the secret for me.

Probably worth 5-8 goals a season depending how much penetration a team has into an opponents penalty area.

Easily worth half a dozen points over a season for a competent penalty taker. Cost us another two yesterday, luckily the season was over for us, but if we were playing for a play off place then could be costly, so it must be sorted.

I remember Alan Moody as our penalty taker for years - be interested to see some stats if anyone has them, on his strike rate. Certainly don't remember him missing many.

Didn't have any problem with Powell taking it yesterday, but clearly was psyched out by the keeper.

Remember the penalties Adam Barrett and Cian Bolger took at Wembley? Two of the more unexpectedly best ones on the day. There's a lot to be said for the old style, hit them hard in the corner ones!

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I'm in the Paul Clark camp here, the keeper completely mugged Powell off. Showed him 2/3 of the goal, just before the kick moved back to the centre then dived to the side he's shown Powell the bigger part of the goal. If Powell had put his foot through the ball he'd probably still beat the keeper, but placing it, went straight for the set up the keeper was hoping for.

Best penalty taker I have ever seen was Ray Stewart at West Ham (unfortunately), closely followed by Alan Moody! (Those of us that were there, how much pressure was there on that penalty @ Vicarage Road?!) Both of those two mentioned were defenders.

Doesn't always have to be a striker taking them, but penalty taking IS a special skill and we need a player PLUS a regular stand-in if the main man is off the pitch.

It's more about the strike on the ball whatever the technique. Stewart put his laces through the ball and took the keeper in the net if he went the right way, but knew how to keep the ball low, so never did a Chris Waddle. Moody was a side footer, but with power as well, and the speed on the ball is the secret for me.

Probably worth 5-8 goals a season depending how much penetration a team has into an opponents penalty area.

Easily worth half a dozen points over a season for a competent penalty taker. Cost us another two yesterday, luckily the season was over for us, but if we were playing for a play off place then could be costly, so it must be sorted.

So much has changed since Moody and Stewart though (the rules, the balls, the size of the keepers they have to get the ball past etc) I’m not sure how translate-able that will be to the modern game.

You mention Waddle but just as big a factor in that penalty shootout loss was having an old school keeper like Shilton who refused to commit until the ball was in the back of the net. Although maybe that’s harsh: probably the last thing you’d want is Shilts betting one way or the other given the gambling debts he racked up…

 

[Chrisb]

I remember Alan Moody as our penalty taker for years - be interested to see some stats if anyone has them, on his strike rate. Certainly don't remember him missing many.

Didn't have any problem with Powell taking it yesterday, but clearly was psyched out by the keeper.

Remember the penalties Adam Barrett and Cian Bolger took at Wembley? Two of the more unexpectedly best ones on the day. There's a lot to be said for the old style, hit them hard in the corner ones!

Definitely. For whatever reason I was 99% sure Powell wouldn't score yesterday - never once thought that when Alan Moody was our penalty taker.

 

[Crowstone Crevette]

I remember Alan Moody as our penalty taker for years - be interested to see some stats if anyone has them, on his strike rate. Certainly don't remember him missing many.

Didn't have any problem with Powell taking it yesterday, but clearly was psyched out by the keeper.

Remember the penalties Adam Barrett and Cian Bolger took at Wembley? Two of the more unexpectedly best ones on the day. There's a lot to be said for the old style, hit them hard in the corner ones!

If memory serves me correctly he missed one against Col U. at The Hall and never took another penalty again.

I remember Dave Cusack took them regularly for us he used to nearly rip the net off the back of th goal.

 

[Andy_S]

What’s Michael Cheek like at penalties then?

 

[LBBlue]

I remember Alan Moody as our penalty taker for years - be interested to see some stats if anyone has them, on his strike rate. Certainly don't remember him missing many.

Didn't have any problem with Powell taking it yesterday, but clearly was psyched out by the keeper.

Remember the penalties Adam Barrett and Cian Bolger took at Wembley? Two of the more unexpectedly best ones on the day. There's a lot to be said for the old style, hit them hard in the corner ones!

https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2017/august/moody-blues/

24 penalties according to this.

I think he stopped after he missed one….

 

[Special Blue]

I'd let Steeeeve take it!
Bet he could take a good pen!

 

[Crowstone Crevette]

https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2017/august/moody-blues/

24 penalties according to this.

I think he stopped after he missed one….

I refer the Honorable Gentlemen to the answer i gave some moments ago.







(see #27)

 

[Tommy2holes]

If have 3 designated penalty takers and an order to these players ie first, second and third dependant on who is on the pitch at the time.

I'd then get those 3 designated players to practice penalties at the end of every training session, and being unable to leave until they score 3 in a row.

We have to make taking and scoring second nature.

 

[Piledriver]

If memory serves me correctly he missed one against Col U. at The Hall and never took another penalty again.

I remember Dave Cusack took them regularly for us he used to nearly rip the net off the back of th goal.

Dave Cusack missed one at the south Bank end! With The noise of ball hitting the advertising board echoing around the ground , the ref spotted a player encroachment, a re take and a goal for Big Dave!!

 

[RobM]

Dave Cusack missed one at the south Bank end! With The noise of ball hitting the advertising board echoing around the ground , the ref spotted a player encroachment, a re take and a goal for Big Dave!!

V. Plymouth as I recall, on TV too. Or am I just totally wrong?

 

[sufc_statto]

Alan Moody's penalty record

Taken: 28, Scored 24.

11/10/74	H	Tranmere Rovers	Div 3	Scored
05/04/75	A	Hereford Utd	Div 3	Missed - hit bar
27/09/75	H	Shrewsbury Town	Div 3	Scored
20/10/75	H	Halifax Town	Div 3	Scored
13/12/75	H	Dover	FAC	Scored
26/01/76	H	Hereford Utd	Div 3	Scored
13/04/76	A	Gillingham	Div 3	Missed - hit post
17/04/76	A	Colchester Utd	Div 3	Scored
19/04/76	H	Chesterfield	Div 3	Scored
23/04/76	H	Chester	Div 3	Scored
27/04/76	A	Wrexham	Div 3	Scored
10/09/76	H	Halifax Town	Div 4	Scored
18/09/76	A	Hartlepool	Div 4	Scored
29/10/76	H	Newport County	Div 4	Scored
01/01/77	H	Aldershot	Div 4	Scored
25/03/77	H	Rochdale	Div 4	Scored
29/04/77	H	Southport	Div 4	Scored
03/09/77	A	AFC Bournemouth	Div 4	Scored
27/09/77	A	Doncaster Rovers	Div 4	Missed - saved
14/10/77	H	Hartlepool Utd	Div 4	Scored
19/12/77	H	AP Leamington	FAC	Scored
02/01/78	H	Grimsby Town	Div 4	Scored
03/04/78	H	Doncaster Rovers	Div 4	Scored
15/04/78	A	Watford	Div 4	Scored
23/10/78	H	Hull City	Div 3	Scored
23/12/78	H	Brentford	Div 3	Scored
02/02/79	H	Chesterfield	Div 3	Scored
02/03/79	H	Colchester Utd	Div 3	Missed - wide

 

[Piledriver]

V. Plymouth as I recall, on TV too. Or am I just totally wrong?

You could well be right, but I don't remember the tv cameras , I do know the blues always seemed not to play their best football for the telly, real stage fright guaranteed everytime...

 

[RobM]

You could well be right, but I don't remember the tv cameras , I do know the blues always seemed not to play their best football for the telly, real stage fright guaranteed everytime...

I think it was a highlight slot with Dave Smith commenting from the dug out.

 

[Shepshead]

What’s Michael Cheek like at penalties then?

He takes them all for Bromley!

 

[Shrimpergonzo]

He takes them all for Bromley!

Scored 13 and missed 2 in his career according to this: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-cheek/elfmetertore/spieler/375095/wettbewerb_id/CNAT

 

[rigsby]

I'm told Ray Stewart missed 10 from 86, though I don't remember him missing many for West Ham. I Was talking to my step dad about him the other day. Everyone remembers him for smashing them but he could take any type of pen and under pressure.

On Youtube if you look up West Ham Villa FAC 6th round 1980. Stewart scores a last minute pen with Paul Brush and Alvin not looking.

Worth watching the 30 mins Big Match highlights for some good old cup footy and you might appreciate Trevor Brooking a bit more. At the end they have an interview with John Lyle (the manger) and Ray Stewart. They talk about dealing with players trying to put you off.......King Kev should watch it....Along with Powell, Demi, Dalby, Rush, Akinola. ANG etc.