The worsening situation in Ukraine

[Userorange]

Anyone seen Bushes latest gaff ??

It’s on What’s making you happy today #9,219. It’s a classic.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It’s on What’s making you happy today. It’s a classic.

He did say he was 75 but even so to confuse Iraq with Ukraine is a bit poor.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Good news. Lavrov, Russia's Foreign Minister has just emphasised in an interview with the BBC, that they did not invade Ukraine, and there is no war. He even said ''Invasion, what invasion?''.
PHEW. For months I have been thinking this war in Ukraine was real. Damn all those news outlets making these fake images. Fooling us like that.

 

[blueblueblue]

Good news. Lavrov, Russia's Foreign Minister has just emphasised in an interview with the BBC, that they did not invade Ukraine, and there is no war. He even said ''Invasion, what invasion?''.
PHEW. For months I have been thinking this war in Ukraine was real. Damn all those news outlets making these fake images. Fooling us like that.

That seems to be the view across russia.

I was watching something on youtube the other day where a guy was showing russians pictures of bomded Cities, the people he showed didn't believe him.

 

[MK Shrimper]

On the plus side, next years Eurovision will be in the UK.

 

[Dave Smiths Love Child]

On the plus side, next years Eurovision will be in the UK.

Down side Russia wins it

 

[RHB]

Unbelievable news and so sad. With the sophisticated missile systems that the Russians use it is very hard to believe that this was an accident.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61941287

 

[Dutch Branch]

This has for sure put the wind up NATO and how many countries are now thinking f..k how daft was we to think something like this would ever happen again.

Russians targets are deliberately picked out for maximum impact purposes and because they are so **** sure NATO won’t challenge them, this will go on for years and years.

Personally, I think they will have at least half of Ukraine by this time next year and in that time might even try to venture out further afield like Modolva.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Six months of war.
News is that Russia and Ukraine may have a UN and Turkey monitoring system to allow grain shipments.
The normalisation of things like this for finance and global markets and politics is, surely, abhorrent to the families of those fighting and dying?
Ought not the emphasis be on full ceasefire and the like?

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

Six months of war.
News is that Russia and Ukraine may have a UN and Turkey monitoring system to allow grain shipments.
The normalisation of things like this for finance and global markets and politics is, surely, abhorrent to the families of those fighting and dying?
Ought not the emphasis be on full ceasefire and the like?

I agree completely.

 

[RobM]

I agree completely.

I'm sure that's going on but we have to plan for every possible outcome
- bit like Covid.

 

[kaymac]

Six months of war.
News is that Russia and Ukraine may have a UN and Turkey monitoring system to allow grain shipments.
The normalisation of things like this for finance and global markets and politics is, surely, abhorrent to the families of those fighting and dying?
Ought not the emphasis be on full ceasefire and the like?

Full ceasefire maybe ideal but on what terms can that be that don’t end with Ukraine re-integrated as a part of Russia and/or face erasure from world maps?

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

For me, @kaymac, I hope the way forward is a ceasefire, a new UN Policed international border, seperate states (new)East Ukraine, and West Ukraine.
Then the West gets behind the West Ukraine and helps rebuild, NATO, civil rights etc and the parallel happens as it did with the post WW2 Germanies, but faster, and that leads to a re-unification.
All a long "game" but IMO, atm, the only game play that has a hope.

 

[kaymac]

Admire your hopeful suggestion but very much doubt Putin would would be anywhere near to agreeing such an arrangement. Presume you mean for a new East Ukraine to become Russian-controlled(?) if so cannot envisage Putin agreeing to accept just a half-share when he could press ahead to try and take over the entire country…let alone allow UN peacekeepers monitor a new border.

 

[SARF]

Kicking the can. West Ukraine would become a rich European country, east Ukraine a stasi hellhole.. they would have to build a wall to,stop people leaving. Etc etc etc. 30 years later we have to endure David hasslehoff again when it’s gets pulled down.. Putin needs beating now ….

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Ukraine on the offensive, Russia cuts gas thru pipeline, 6 months fighting, bad goes to worse and the autumn ain't going to be much fun for anyone except weapon dealers and energy company share holders.

 

[SARF]

Energy prices are falling, not that we will see any benefit for a while.. most of the heavy work in getting off Russian supplies has been done , except in Germany and Italy ? The knock on in high european and by default uk gas prices. Crude, natural gas in the states all falling now . Ukraine will be in range of the Crimea soon. Then it may get really ugly

 

[Holy Joe]

Energy prices are falling, not that we will see any benefit for a while.. most of the heavy work in getting off Russian supplies has been done , except in Germany and Italy ? The knock on in high european and by default uk gas prices. Crude, natural gas in the states all falling now . Ukraine will be in range of the Crimea soon. Then it may get really ugly

UK gas prices are 15% higher today than a month ago, whilst that's better than the recent peak on 26 Aug, I think its a touch too soon to say energy prices are falling in Europe/UK. The situation remains very fragile, a cold autumn/start to winter and prices will rocket

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Russians getting knocked back, Putin won't allow it and will up the conflict for sure.

 

[pottster]

There are countries in thd world that cannot lose a war and russia is one of them. He will up the ante, with what I dread to think