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Latest Rumours SUFC up for sale

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Yeah, I can see this dragging out and getting quite messy, with buyers wanting the more profitable areas of the project included and Ron digging his heals in.
My understanding is the club/agency are very clear on what is/isn’t for sale and it’s not negotiable.

What is on offfer is attractive enough for potential buyers which have been in discussion for a while (and there is a few…including in America)

No one wants to make this complicated.
Ron wants to sell.
The right buyer understands what’s for sale.
Accounts are clear (if not published)

Time is ticking.
HMS **** the league is waiting to depart for next season.
Let’s cheer on Wrexham and Notts County this year and then the league title is for the taking next year :)
 
We're potless, payday coming soon, outstanding tax, creditors beating down the door, no access to credit, stadium falling apart, accounts overdue, backroom staff unpaid, planning outstanding. There is no way this is dragging on or going unresolved until the start of next season. We're bust or we're bought..... soon surely ?
But we are not Potless, Ron clearly stated in his new conference that he has put 2 million into club two weeks ago which he said would keep the club going until the new owners take over.

Get your facts right,

2 million is a lot of cash and should be more than enough to keep us ticking over for a long while and we still have gate money coming in.
 
But we are not Potless, Ron clearly stated in his new conference that he has put 2 million into club two weeks ago which he said would keep the club going until the new owners take over.

Get your facts right,

2 million is a lot of cash and should be more than enough to keep us ticking over for a long while and we still have gate money coming in.
That all went on paying HMRC and players wages. The pot is once again empty.
 
My understanding is the club/agency are very clear on what is/isn’t for sale and it’s not negotiable.

What is on offfer is attractive enough for potential buyers which have been in discussion for a while (and there is a few…including in America)

No one wants to make this complicated.
Ron wants to sell.
The right buyer understands what’s for sale.
Accounts are clear (if not published)

Time is ticking.
HMS **** the league is waiting to depart for next season.
Let’s cheer on Wrexham and Notts County this year and then the league title is for the taking next year :)

Yes, it is imperative that Wrexham and Notts County get promoted.
 
That is not the case but if it was then all the bills and late wages for the staff would of been paid. Unfortunately they haven't been.
The clue is that we're still under an embargo and are trying to agree a new TTP agreement with HMRC.

Good luck with that one Tom! Any credibility you have is irrelevant given Ron's propensity to fail to pay and blame others.
 
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Is it an exageration to say that we're entering into probably the most important four months in the club's history? I know nothing but It seems to me It could go two ways and the first is, of course, preferable. A new owner is quickly found and he (or she) assures the players and management stability and a promising view for the future. In that way, the backbone of the team and management stay in place and we start building for a promotion push next season. The second, is that finding a new owner becomes a long drawn out affair. In this case uncertainty and instability will prevail. It doesn't look as if RM any longer has thé funds to run the club (even in the terrible way It has been run in the past years). Administration ensues and those who can leave, do so in the summer (players and possibly management).
In both cases I'm confident we'll still have a club. However, the former will set us up for a promotion push next season, whilst the latter will likely set us back at least two years.
 
Yes, it is imperative that Wrexham and Notts County get promoted.

Definitely, although if either one fail to get promotion, you can assume the better players in their squads would be in demand this summer.

It’s a bit different for Wrexham because they have the money to replace players with ease, but Notts will struggle to find another Langstaff, Scott or Rodrigues overnight.
 
For those interested Martin Dawns shares in SEL are now held by Mezcal Investments. So 70% of Southend United Football Club is owned by Mezcal Investments via SEL. And Mezcal is the 100% owner of SEL.
Interesting. Wasn't someone requesting Mezcal's details from the BVI Companies House?

I think @Napster mentioned it, wondering if anything came of it.
 
For those interested Martin Dawns shares in SEL are now held by Mezcal Investments. So 70% of Southend United Football Club is owned by Mezcal Investments via SEL. And Mezcal is the 100% owner of SEL.
I was on Companies House half an hour ago and thought that this looked to be the case too.

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ONTARIO TEACHERS PENSION FUND who run the Irish Lottery have just put it up for sale (to raise some cash?)

Co incidence ?

As at same time as our beloved club also put up for sale and both sales relate to Pension funds??

Just to assist keeping the thread going.:Smile2::Smile2:
 
ONTARIO TEACHERS PENSION FUND who run the Irish Lottery have just put it up for sale (to raise some cash?)

Co incidence ?

As at same time as our beloved club also put up for sale and both sales relate to Pension funds??

Just to assist keeping the thread going.:Smile2::Smile2:

Yeah good spot.

I've also got an old couch I've just put on gumtree. Coincidence?
 
Interesting. Wasn't someone requesting Mezcal's details from the BVI Companies House?

I think @Napster mentioned it, wondering if anything came of it.

Not from BVI companies house but a credit report.

I'll copy it here

MEZCAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED 1002652

Business Name MEZCAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
Country VIRGIN ISLANDS, BRITISH
Company Registration Number 1002652
Main Activity Code 7022
Main Activity Description Business and other management consultancy activities
Company Status Active (Active)
Latest Turnover Figure -
Latest Shareholder Equity Figure -
Common Credit Rating C
Common Rating Description Moderate Risk
Credit Limit 100.000 USD
Provider Credit Rating 11/20
Provider Rating Description Moderate Risk
Basic Information
Business Name MEZCAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
Registered Company Name MEZCAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
Company Registration Number 1002652
Country VIRGIN ISLANDS, BRITISH
VAT Registration Number
VAT Registration Date
Date of Company Registration 2006-01-03
Date of Starting Operations
Commercial Court
Legal Form International Business Company
Type of Ownership
Company Status Active (Active)
Principal Activity Code 7022
Principal Activity Description Business and other management consultancy activities
Contact Telephone Number +1-2844948184
Main Address
Address Country Telephone
C/O: Vistra (BVI) Limited Vistra Corporate Services Centre Wickhams Cay II,
Road Town, Tortola, VG1110
VIRGIN ISLANDS, BRITISH +1-2844948184
11//20
Credit rating: C
Number of Employees 0
Banker Information
Banker Name Banker Address Phone Number
HSBC British Virgin Islands
Advisors Information
No advisor information for this company.
Miscellaneous Information
Fax Number +1-2844945132
Export Countries
Import Countries
Additional Business Information MEZCAL INVESTMENTS LIMITED, is an International Business Company / Offshore Company incorporated in
the British Virgin Islands for tax purposes. However the company does not carry any operation in the
British Virgin Islands.
LINE OF BUSINESS : Finance and investment. Subject has the following purposes and
objects: The principal object is to engage either in the Virgin Islands or abroad, in the purchase, sell, disposal, dealing, transfer, barter, ownership, negotiate, finance, administration to grant guaranties in favor of obligation of third parties with or without mortgage or pledge of the corporation assets, give or borrowing money in loan, giving or taking in commission, mortgage, security, lease, use, usufruct, or receivership, any kind of property, whether real or personal stock or rights, and make and accept all kinds
of deals, contracts, operations, business and transactions of lawful commerce. The corporation could engage also in fulfilling all activities, contracts, operations, business or transactions allowed by Law to the Corporation. In particular it is engaged in financial intermediation operations, participation in overseas companies, shareholdings, overseas investments in general, etc. According to informed by subject\'s resident agent, it is legally registered in the British Virgin Islands, with head offices abroad. It means that
subject uses the British Virgin Islands territory only as its legal and administrative address, but all its operations are carried out abroad. It is under the same condition as many companies that are established in the British Virgin Islands, founded in order to protect their shareholder\'s investments and, to avail of tax exemption laws in that country. Subject\'s annual business volume is not disclosed by its Resident Agent.

Additional Rating Information Comments on the rating: A credit line may be considered.
Additional Payment Information
Additional Financial Information
Number of Employees at Address 0
Number of Employees at Group
Number of Employees at Factory
2/8
Additional Miscellaneous Information
Operation Status Not confirmed
Creation Date 2006; The supplier could get only information on year, not month and day at this time.”
Comments on data supplied Please find the correct legal address for the company. Telephone Provided +447710551445 could not be verified.
Registration Type Registration Number
Foreign/Domestic Domestic
Last Annual Report Date 2022-10-31
Mailing C/O: Vistra (BVI) Limited Vistra Corporate Services Centre Wickhams Cay II, Road Town, Tortola, VG1110, British Virgin Islands
SIC Codes 6719
Size Range Small
Comments on staff The subject uses the staff of the registered Agent.
Comments on suppliers In virtue of the nature of its business activities its local transactions are seldom. Therefore, commercial sources consulted in the marketplace report that they are unable to establish subject's payment performance and general reputation regarding commitments contracted as same it is UNKNOWN as making
use of credit facilities.
Comments on Shareholders The company is owned by foreign shareholders.
Comments on Management It is locally managed by the registered agent mentioned above. The agent declined to give any information on the subject, who is protected by the law of non disclosure.
Affiliations Comments We could not identify any affiliated Company during our investigation.

Financials
Currency Change USD
Listed at the stock exchange No
Capital Paid up N.A
Capital N.A
Number of shares 50,000
Annual Financials {Currency : USD}
Date 2021
Operating Income 6,150,000
Net Income 6,150,000
Legal Records
OFAC List No
Bankruptcy No
Lawsuit(s) No
Summary
Company
operations
Not confirmed
Size Small
Experience Good
Group International
Trade
references
N.A.
Payments Regular
Profitability Good
Indebtedness Nil
Legal
Records
No
General
Overview
Average
Credit risk
analysis
We are reporting upon a finance and investments company which belongs to foreign shareholders. Although it is registered in the British Virgin Islands, it uses such territory only as its legal and administrative address, but all its operations are carried out abroad. It is managed by a resident registration agent and it is unknown in the marketplace, so its commercial morality and general reputation cannot be assessed, although nothing detrimental is noted upon subject. As there are no visible assets, and taking into account also that it is unknown as making use of credit facilities, credit in general must be regarded as a matter of confidence, and amounts of certain importance would have to be secured by collateral. A credit line maybe considered for USD 100 000.

Interview
Contact
Name
Contact
Position
Interview
N.A. Registered
Agent
She confirmed the name of the company but declined to provide any other information. The name of PRESERVATION TREATMENTS
LIMITED was disclosed. Information in the report has been obtained from local official registry and third party sources.

Country Overview
Political
Regime
Economic
Risk
-
British
Overseas
Parliamentary
Nil BVI International Business Companies (IBCs) are the off-shore companies with a great number of advantages, such as: 1)
Exemption from payment of any income tax; 2) Can conduct most business transactions (except conducting banking and
insurance activities and other businesses with residents of the BVI; or to possess real estate in BVI); 3) Requires a minimum
of only one shareholder and one director; 4) The directors and shareholders can be entities or individuals resident in any
country; 5) The shares can be issued to the bearer or registered; 6) The Board of Directors can meet in any part of the world
and even by telephone; 7) The payment of minimum capital is not required, and the shares can be issued at par or non par
value; 8) The names of the Directors, Officers and shareholders do not need to be registered in a public record 9) No need to
file annual reports nor tax returns; 10) Can transfer its domicile and continue existing as a company incorporated under the
laws of a jurisdiction outside of BVI; a foreign company can also become a BVI IBC; 11) Neither the minutes book nor the
shares book need to be certified by any authority of BVI; 12) It is not necessary to carry out Directors or shareholder
meetings on a regular basis. 13) The name of the company must include the word 'Limited', 'Corporation' or 'Incorporation', or
the abbreviation 'Ltd.', 'Corp.', 'Inc.' or 'S.A.'. Names in Chinese characters may also be recorded. 14) It is not necessary to
issue shares of the company, unless the Board of directors decides so. 15) The IBC can be dissolved by resolution of the
Board of directors, if no shares have been issued. In case that the shares have been issued, the company must be
dissolved through a shareholders resolution. 16) All the dividends, interest, rents, royalties, compensations and other
amounts paid by company established under the IBC Act to persons that are non-residents of BVI are exempt from payment
of income tax. The capital gains earned from the sale of whatever shares or other securities of an IBC are also exempt from
payment of any tax.
Financial Year
Number of Weeks
Currency
Consolidated Accounts
4/8
Profit and Loss
Revenue - - -
Operating Costs - - -
Operating Profit - - -
Wages & Salaries - - -
Pension Costs - - -
Depreciation - - -
Amortisation - - -
Financial Income - - -
Financial Expenses - - -
Extraordinary Income - - -
Extraordinary Costs - - -
Profit before Tax - - -
Tax - - -
Profit after Tax - - -
Dividends - - -
Minority Interests - - -
Other Appropriations - - -
Retained Profit - - -
5/8
Balance Sheet
Land & Buildings 0 0 0
Plant & Machinery 0 0 0
Other Tangible Assets 0 0 0
Total Tangible Assets 0 0 0
Goodwill 0 0 0
Other Intangible Assets 0 0 0
Total Intangible Assets 0 0 0
Investments 0 0 0
Loans to Group 0 0 0
Other Loans 0 0 0
Miscellaneous Fixed Assets 0 0 0
Total Other Fixed Assets 0 0 0
Total Fixed Assets 0 0 0
Raw Materials 0 0 0
Work in Progress 0 0 0
Finished Goods 0 0 0
Other Inventories 0 0 0
Total Inventories 0 0 0
Trade Receivables 0 0 0
Group Receivables 0 0 0
Receivables Due after 1 year 0 0 0
Miscellaneous Receivables 0 0 0
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Cash 0 0 0
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Total Assets 0 0 0
Trade Payables 0 0 0
Bank Liabilities 0 0 0
Other Loans or Finance 0 0 0
Group Payables 0 0 0
Miscellaneous Liabilities 0 0 0
Total Current Liabilities 0 0 0
Trade Payables After 1 Year 0 0 0
Bank Liabilities After 1 Year 0 0 0
Other Loans or Finance due after 1 year 0 0 0
Group Payables After 1 Year 0 0 0
Miscellaneous Liabilities Due After 1 Year 0 0 0
Total Long Term Liabilities 0 0 0
Total Liabilities 0 0 0
Called Up Share Capital 0 0 0
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Revenue Reserves 0 0 0
Other Reserves 0 0 0
Total Shareholders Equity 0 0 0
Other Financials
Contingent Liabilities
Working Capital 0 0 0
Net Worth 0 0 0
6/8
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Pre Tax Profit Margin
Return On Capital Employed
Return On Total Assets Employed
Return On Net Assets Employed
Sales / Net Working Capital
Stock Turnover Ratio
Debtor Days
Creditor Days
Current Ratio
Liquidity Ratio Or Acid Test
Current Debt Ratio
Gearing
Equity In Percentage
Total Debt Ratio
Credit Score
Current Common Credit Rating C
Current Common Rating Description Moderate Risk
Current Credit Limit 100.000 USD
Current Provider Credit Rating 11/20
Current Provider Rating Description Moderate Risk
Previous Common Credit Rating
Previous Common Rating Description
Previous Credit Limit -
Previous Provider Credit Rating
Previous Provider Rating Description
Current Contract Limit -
Date of Latest Rating Change
Creditsafe Common Score
Score Description
A Very Low Risk
B Low Risk
C Moderate Risk
D High Risk
E Not Rated
Directors/Managers
No directors information for this company
Share Capital Structure
Nominal Share Capital
Issued Share Capital
Shareholders
Shareholder Address % Shares Held
No Shareholders for this company.
Group Structure
No group structure information for this company
7/8
Negative Information
No negative information for this company
8/8
 
So preparations for the sale were underway at least a week ago.

It would likely have taken time to set up share transfers so it looks more and more like Ron decided that he wanted out before the March 1st deadline but knew he had to sort that out first before he could move forward.

This means there’s a greater chance of there already being meaningful talks in progress.
 
So preparations for the sale were underway at least a week ago.

It would likely have taken time to set up share transfers so it looks more and more like Ron decided that he wanted out before the March 1st deadline but knew he had to sort that out first before he could move forward.

This means there’s a greater chance of there already being meaningful talks in progress.
Or he wanted the shares in a tax haven before the sale.
 
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