2017 General Election thread

[mrsblue]

Corbyn has nowhere to go now...I expect his resignation the day after the election.

 

[Blueronron]

As a long life Labour man, I am dreading the result, can see a night of lost seats, more bickering between supporters, maybe a New Labour party emerge with David Millipede worming his way back, if JC doesn't do the decent thing for the country and party come a poor result

The campaign trail will be hard for many of us to convince the voters to believe in Labour, when it seems many of the party MP's donot believe in it anymore, maybe this is what is required to bring back the party to a credible opposition , a heavy defeat (and god I hope I am wrong on the result), but something in between Corbyn principles and the early Blair years to unite once again

UTS

 

[superblue24]

You hate them, yet you're going to vote for them? I have issues with JC too, but the way I see it it's more important to get the Tories out of no.10, and then hope that Labour sorts itself out.

What an incredibly well put together plan. Let's get the Tories out (the party who at least vaguely seem to have a plan) and replace them with a party that has no idea, no identity and no credibility..... and then hope they "sort themselves out" the day they saunter into Number 10. Good plan fella!

 

[GBJ]

Can we have Barna's early prediction for the outcome please. I need to make a few quid

 

[southendkid]

I think the LDs can repair some 2010 damage if they go hard on a single message anti-Brexit campaign.

A soft Brexit stance would probably be a better move, campaigning to scrap Brexit altogether would just get them called undemocratic and that would sink their chances. Not to mention 32% of Lib Dem voters voted leave, I imagine a lot of those want soft Brexit but wouldn't be happy if Farron said he's scrapping the whole thing.

 

[Supernaut]

What an incredibly well put together plan. Let's get the Tories out (the party who at least vaguely seem to have a plan) and replace them with a party that has no idea, no identity and no credibility..... and then hope they "sort themselves out" the day they saunter into Number 10. Good plan fella!

Sorry, you're going to have to give me a hint there - the Tory plan is what, exactly? And, more importantly, how does this plan benefit ordinary people in this country?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

What an incredibly well put together plan. Let's get the Tories out (the party who at least vaguely seem to have a plan) and replace them with a party that has no idea, no identity and no credibility..... and then hope they "sort themselves out" the day they saunter into Number 10. Good plan fella!

I missed the plan, I just hear policy announcements that then get reversed. Could you explain roughly what the Tory plan is please?

 

[mrsblue]

As a long life Labour man, I am dreading the result, can see a night of lost seats, more bickering between supporters, maybe a New Labour party emerge with David Millipede worming his way back, if JC doesn't do the decent thing for the country and party come a poor result

The campaign trail will be hard for many of us to convince the voters to believe in Labour, when it seems many of the party MP's donot believe in it anymore, maybe this is what is required to bring back the party to a credible opposition , a heavy defeat (and god I hope I am wrong on the result), but something in between Corbyn principles and the early Blair years to unite once again

UTS

I feel for you Blueonron,keep your pecker up old chum.

 

[mrsblue]

I missed the plan, I just hear policy announcements that then get reversed. Could you explain roughly what the Tory plan is please?

Tory plan is play it by ear....Labour plan is to borrow shed loads and spend spend spend.

 

[callan]

First time ever I haven't got a clue who to vote for.
Anyone else in my predicament?

 

[londonblue]

You hate them, yet you're going to vote for them? I have issues with JC too, but the way I see it it's more important to get the Tories out of no.10, and then hope that Labour sorts itself out.

Because to me tolerance of racism and racists tops everything. Any right minded person should avoid voting labour for the time being.

But, your plan above won't work because if by some miracle labour actually win Corduroy will take that as a mandate with no need to sort out the party.

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Great, more politics, just want everyone in the country wants...

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Tory plan is play it by ear....Labour plan is to borrow shed loads and spend spend spend.

play it by ear is not a plan of action, and current Tory borrowing is higher than all previous Labour governments combined

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Because to me tolerance of racism and racists tops everything. Any right minded person should avoid voting labour for the time being.

But, your plan above won't work because if by some miracle labour actually win Corduroy will take that as a mandate with no need to sort out the party.

the notion that the anti racist vote goes to the Tories is laughable in the extreme

 

[superblue24]

play it by ear is not a plan of action, and current Tory borrowing is higher than all previous Labour governments combined

Wasn't that because when the LP came to power in 1997, the government was close to already operating at a surplus?

Who was in power at that nasty peak in 2009-10?

 

[Pubey]

A soft Brexit stance would probably be a better move, campaigning to scrap Brexit altogether would just get them called undemocratic and that would sink their chances. Not to mention 32% of Lib Dem voters voted leave, I imagine a lot of those want soft Brexit but wouldn't be happy if Farron said he's scrapping the whole thing.

yeah that's what I meant but didn't clearly state. Agreed.

 

[jassyfa1]

How much does it cost to run as an independent?

 

[manor15]

How much does it cost to run as an independent?

£500 deposit you get back if you get 5% of the vote I think.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

How much does it cost to run as an independent?

Mr Carswell is that you?

 

[londonblue]

the notion that the anti racist vote goes to the Tories is laughable in the extreme

In the past I would have agreed with you.