A little less deep depression, a little more perspective please

[fbm]

I've been away on my annual hols and can't believe some of the stuff on here. So I thought I'd do a little research as to how we have done whenever we have been promoted to this league.

1971-72 - Promoted to Div 3 for 1st time.
1972-73 - First 6 league results - H v Wrexham, Lost 1-0, A v Plymouth, Lost 2-0, H v Swansea, Won 3-1, H v Rochdale, Lost 2-1, A v Tranmere, Lost 3-1, H v Notts County, Won 3-1. After 6 games, 2 wins, 4 defeats, 4 points total, finished 14th.

1980-81 - Promoted to Div 3.
1981-82 - Three points for a win introduced. First 6 League results - A v Walsall, Won 1-0, H v Newport, Lost 4-0, A v Carlisle, Lost 3-2, H v Portsmouth, Won 2-0, H v Swindon, drew 0-0, A v Huddersfield, L 3-2. After 6 games, 2 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats, 7 points total, finished 7th.

1986-87 - Promoted to Div 3.
1987-88 - First 6 league results - A v Bury, Drew 2-2, H v Chester, Drew 2-2, A v Gillingham, Lost 8-1, H v Preston, Lost 2-1, A v Notts County, Lost 6-2, H v Brentford, Lost 3-2. After 6 games, 0 wins, 2 draws, 4 defeats, 2 points total, finished 17th.

1989-90 - Promoted to Div 3.
1990-91 - First 6 league results - A v Huddersfield, Won 2-1, H v Crewe, Won 3-2, A v Cambridge, Won 4-1, H v Preston, Won 3-2, H v Shrewsbury, Won 2-1, A v Stoke, Lost 4-0. After 6 games, 5 wins, 1 defeat, total 15 points, finished runners up.

2004-05 - Promoted to Div 3.
2005-06 - First 6 league results - H v Port Vale, Lost 2-1, A v Bradford, Won 2-0, A v Walsall, Drew 2-2, H v Huddersfield, Drew 1-1, A v Scunthorpe, Lost 1-0, H v Colchester, Won 3-1. First 6 games, 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats, total 8 points, finished as Champions.


So having been promoted only 5 times up to this league in our history, we have only made a good start once.

We have shown relegation form twice... yet have never been relegated.

#Justsaying

Let's not go overboard people just because we didn't play well last Saturday.

Keep the Faith.

 

[leeblue]

Absolutely spot on....got to say thought we supported the boys well on saturday...didn't sense too much negativity...on this forum some have turned to doom mongering. Early days yet and still some deals to be done regarding new players hopefully...come on southend.

 

[RobB11]

Exactly! The forum is the place to vent your frustrations. And down the pub with your mates. Better there than at the game :thumbsup:

 

[wakes123]

I've been away on my annual hols and can't believe some of the stuff on here. So I thought I'd do a little research as to how we have done whenever we have been promoted this league.

1971-72 - Promoted to Div 3 for 1st time.
1972-73 - First 6 league results - H v Wrexham, Lost 1-0, A v Plymouth, Lost 2-0, H v Swansea, Won 3-1, H v Rochdale, Lost 2-1, A v Tranmere, Lost 3-1, H v Notts County, Won 3-1. After 6 games, 2 wins, 4 defeats, 4 points total, finished 14th.

1980-81 - Promoted to Div 3.
1981-82 - Three points for a win introduced. First 6 League results - A v Walsall, Won 1-0, H v Newport, Lost 4-0, A v Carlisle, Lost 3-2, H v Portsmouth, Won 2-0, H v Swindon, drew 0-0, A v Huddersfield, L 3-2. After 6 games, 2 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats, 7 points total, finished 7th.

1986-87 - Promoted to Div 3.
1987-88 - First 6 league results - A v Bury, Drew 2-2, H v Chester, Drew 2-2, A v Gillingham, Lost 8-1, H v Preston, Lost 2-1, A v Notts County, Lost 6-2, H v Brentford, Lost 3-2. After 6 games, 0 wins, 2 draws, 4 defeats, 2 points total, finished 17th.

1989-90 - Promoted to Div 3.
1990-91 - First 6 league results - A v Huddersfield, Won 2-1, H v Crewe, Won 3-2, A v Cambridge, Won 4-1, H v Preston, Won 3-2, H v Shrewsbury, Won 2-1, A v Stoke, Lost 4-0. After 6 games, 5 wins, 1 defeat, total 15 points, finished runners up.

2004-05 - Promoted to Div 3.
2005-06 - First 6 league results - H v Port Vale, Lost 2-1, A v Bradford, Won 2-0, A v Walsall, Drew 2-2, H v Huddersfield, Drew 1-1, A v Scunthorpe, Lost 1-0, H v Colchester, Won 3-1. First 6 games, 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats, total 8 points, finished as Champions.


So having been promoted only 5 times from this league in our history, we have only made a good start once.

We have shown relegation form twice... yet have never been relegated.

#Justsaying

Let's not go overboard people just because we didn't play well last Saturday.

Keep the Faith.

Ouch...against Gills too!

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

I've been away on my annual hols and can't believe some of the stuff on here. So I thought I'd do a little research as to how we have done whenever we have been promoted this league.

1971-72 - Promoted to Div 3 for 1st time.
1972-73 - First 6 league results - H v Wrexham, Lost 1-0, A v Plymouth, Lost 2-0, H v Swansea, Won 3-1, H v Rochdale, Lost 2-1, A v Tranmere, Lost 3-1, H v Notts County, Won 3-1. After 6 games, 2 wins, 4 defeats, 4 points total, finished 14th.

1980-81 - Promoted to Div 3.
1981-82 - Three points for a win introduced. First 6 League results - A v Walsall, Won 1-0, H v Newport, Lost 4-0, A v Carlisle, Lost 3-2, H v Portsmouth, Won 2-0, H v Swindon, drew 0-0, A v Huddersfield, L 3-2. After 6 games, 2 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats, 7 points total, finished 7th.

1986-87 - Promoted to Div 3.
1987-88 - First 6 league results - A v Bury, Drew 2-2, H v Chester, Drew 2-2, A v Gillingham, Lost 8-1, H v Preston, Lost 2-1, A v Notts County, Lost 6-2, H v Brentford, Lost 3-2. After 6 games, 0 wins, 2 draws, 4 defeats, 2 points total, finished 17th.

1989-90 - Promoted to Div 3.
1990-91 - First 6 league results - A v Huddersfield, Won 2-1, H v Crewe, Won 3-2, A v Cambridge, Won 4-1, H v Preston, Won 3-2, H v Shrewsbury, Won 2-1, A v Stoke, Lost 4-0. After 6 games, 5 wins, 1 defeat, total 15 points, finished runners up.

2004-05 - Promoted to Div 3.
2005-06 - First 6 league results - H v Port Vale, Lost 2-1, A v Bradford, Won 2-0, A v Walsall, Drew 2-2, H v Huddersfield, Drew 1-1, A v Scunthorpe, Lost 1-0, H v Colchester, Won 3-1. First 6 games, 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats, total 8 points, finished as Champions.


So having been promoted only 5 times from this league in our history, we have only made a good start once.

We have shown relegation form twice... yet have never been relegated.

#Justsaying

Let's not go overboard people just because we didn't play well last Saturday.

Keep the Faith.

Ouch...against Gills too!

Yes remember it well and our 'goal' was an own goal as well. I also went to the next away game at Port Vale a 6-2 defeat.
The bizarre fact is that after beating us 8-1 Gillingham then won their next home match 10-0 v Chesterfield!!!!

 

[OldBlueLady]

Exactly! The forum is the place to vent your frustrations. And down the pub with your mates. Better there than at the game :thumbsup:

And also now apparently on the Facebook ShrimperZone page :facepalm:

Welcome back fbm, nice to see some positivity back!

 

[spoons]

After that amount of research, you will be needing another holiday:smile:
Too early for optimism or pessimism but travelling to Doncaster tomorrow full of optimism and hoping that Brown selects the right team.

 

[C C Csiders]

Yes remember it well and our 'goal' was an own goal as well. I also went to the next away game at Port Vale a 6-2 defeat.The bizarre fact is that after beating us 8-1 Gillingham then won their next home match 10-0 v Chesterfield!!!!

4-1 Tom!

That was teh only season I went to every game home and away and we conceded everything from 0-8 except for 5.

 

[Somerset Ex-TTB]

Early days yes, but I think its too early to say whether Walsall was just a bad day, or a step up in class. We will know a lot more after tomorrow and Saturday.

Although only finishing 4th last season and scraping through the play-offs (without actually winning a game in 90 minutes) this team did set a record of 84 points, so we should be OK as we have not had too many changes.

 

[Sleaford Shrimper]

Good post, fbm. Sadly, I predict that the 'Brown Out' brigade will be in full flow on here again if we don't win at least one of the next two games.

 

[mrsblue]

I reckon 10 games in will tell us all where we are likely to end up.

 

[Fish]

I reckon 10 games in will tell us all where we are likely to end up.

I reckon 45 games in will tell us all where we're likely to end up.

 

[Pubey]

I reckon 10 games in will tell us all where we are likely to end up.

Nope.

2014/15

 

[Uncle Leo]

Nope.

2014/15

it was a pretty good indication for Bristol City :smile:

That is interesting though. 'Ten games in' is a pretty widely used term and i'll admit to using it myself.

 

[mrsblue]

Nope.

2014/15

So your info shows the opening top 9 after 10 finished in the top 9 !

 

[Pubey]

it was a pretty good indication for Bristol City :smile:

That is interesting though. 'Ten games in' is a pretty widely used term and i'll admit to using it myself.

Oops I forgot to caveat - although it's 10 games some teams had already played 11 but I can't account for that with the website I was using:

http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=Leagues

 

[Pubey]

So your info shows the opening top 9 after 10 finished in the top 9 !

Yes. The data also tends to show you talk out of your bumhole.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Oops I forgot to caveat - although it's 10 games some teams had already played 11 but I can't account for that with the website I was using:

http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=Leagues

I think we can let you off :winking:

 

[mrsblue]

Yes. The data also tends to show you talk out of your bumhole.

But it clearly proved the teams who start well are unchanged in the top 9,just for you that means if after 10 games we are bottom 12 I reckon we will remain somewhere in the bottom 12.

 

[Pubey]

But it clearly proved the teams who start well are unchanged in the top 9,just for you that means if after 10 games we are bottom 12 I reckon we will remain somewhere in the bottom 12.

It's one league in one year, it doesn't prove anything, other than that last season in L1 many teams ended up in a very different place at the end of the season, when compared to 10/11 games in.

None of the teams in the bottom 4 after 10/11 games went down. I think that's interesting.

Bottom line, even after 10/11 games there's no need to hit the panic button.