A View from the Dark Side ......

[Rayleigh boy]

the situation now is exactly what Ron Martin wants and always has wanted -

When he bought SUFC we were League 2 and going no-where and he had no intention of changing that - after all he appointed a youth team coach who had no previous experience to manage the club -

Unfortunately for him Tilson steered the club to success and RM had to tag along - and of course any capitalist pig worth his salt knows how to bleed a good few quid out of an ever increasing turnover - GBP 1.9 million for a few fancy drawings for a start -

and with all the noise on the pitch he got exactly what he needed - planning permission for FF - so now he could shake hands with Sainsburys - done deal thank you very much .....

Now one thing left to do for Uncle Ron ...... do Tilsons knees, downgrade the football club and hence downgrade the stadium (think Yeovil, Northampton) and walk away a very rich man ....

Its hard to accept isn't it ?

Are we all in denial ?

Even Freedman (as he made for the exit) only dared go as far as "maybe he's focusing too much on the long term" but lets get real ....

Ron Martin has busted up Tilsons squad and left him with nothing -

Barratt almost went public with his "if we stay up it will be my biggest acheivement" and the players are staying loyal to Tilson who is trying to keep the club together.....

Maybe its not quite like this - (in denial again?) maybe Martin has just misjudged things on the playing side - but if its an accident its one that has a big upside for him - remember how he told us how he used the HMRC as a bank - nice facility to have RM - thats our football club you are playing with ...

whatever we have to get behind the players and manger - but I wouldn't buy a season ticket -

 

[TrueBlue]

Dont let the door on your arse on the way out tala - sorry but you are talking crap

 

[Rayleigh boy]

I personally like people who are as good as their word - like if some-one says they are going to pay me on Monday - I am as happy as larry - unless Monday comes and goes and they haven't paid me -

Maybe RM is mugging you off as well ?

 

[BrettieAngell]

I like a good conspiracy theory but this isn't a good conspiracy theory.

 

[TrueBlue]

I personally like people who are as good as their word - like if some-one says they are going to pay me on Monday - I am as happy as larry - unless Monday comes and goes and they haven't paid me -

Maybe RM is mugging you off as well ?

No as I have said its simple if Southend Fail = Ron Fail = No sainsburys = No fossets farm = Rejection of reapplication due to no ground = Ron left with some land ON GREEN BELT worth next to **** all from his investment

 

[McNasty]

I have got splinters in my bum from sitting on the fence because I, along with almost everybody else, haven't got a clue what is happening or how it will all end.
I will continue to support the team and coaching staff whilst waiting for RM to do whatever he can/wants to do ---- I can't see how he can carry on without additional help with funding, there is no point driving him out and expecting anyone else to walk in and throw money about --- it's a bad situation but without a multi-millionaire we are stuck, whether others think protesting will do any good or others who won't have a word said against RM.

Wait and see.

 

[Homer]

the situation now is exactly what Ron Martin wants and always has wanted -

When he bought SUFC we were League 2 and going no-where and he had no intention of changing that - after all he appointed a youth team coach who had no previous experience to manage the club -

Unfortunately for him Tilson steered the club to success and RM had to tag along - and of course any capitalist pig worth his salt knows how to bleed a good few quid out of an ever increasing turnover - GBP 1.9 million for a few fancy drawings for a start -

and with all the noise on the pitch he got exactly what he needed - planning permission for FF - so now he could shake hands with Sainsburys - done deal thank you very much .....

Now one thing left to do for Uncle Ron ...... do Tilsons knees, downgrade the football club and hence downgrade the stadium (think Yeovil, Northampton) and walk away a very rich man ....

Its hard to accept isn't it ?

Are we all in denial ?

Even Freedman (as he made for the exit) only dared go as far as "maybe he's focusing too much on the long term" but lets get real ....

Ron Martin has busted up Tilsons squad and left him with nothing -

Barratt almost went public with his "if we stay up it will be my biggest acheivement" and the players are staying loyal to Tilson who is trying to keep the club together.....

Maybe its not quite like this - (in denial again?) maybe Martin has just misjudged things on the playing side - but if its an accident its one that has a big upside for him - remember how he told us how he used the HMRC as a bank - nice facility to have RM - thats our football club you are playing with ...

whatever we have to get behind the players and manger - but I wouldn't buy a season ticket -

Another stupid post and a total load of Bollocks

 

[davewebbsbrain]

the situation now is exactly what Ron Martin wants and always has wanted -

When he bought SUFC we were League 2 and going no-where and he had no intention of changing that - after all he appointed a youth team coach who had no previous experience to manage the club -

Unfortunately for him Tilson steered the club to success and RM had to tag along - and of course any capitalist pig worth his salt knows how to bleed a good few quid out of an ever increasing turnover - GBP 1.9 million for a few fancy drawings for a start -

and with all the noise on the pitch he got exactly what he needed - planning permission for FF - so now he could shake hands with Sainsburys - done deal thank you very much .....

Now one thing left to do for Uncle Ron ...... do Tilsons knees, downgrade the football club and hence downgrade the stadium (think Yeovil, Northampton) and walk away a very rich man ....

Its hard to accept isn't it ?

Are we all in denial ?

Even Freedman (as he made for the exit) only dared go as far as "maybe he's focusing too much on the long term" but lets get real ....

Ron Martin has busted up Tilsons squad and left him with nothing -

Barratt almost went public with his "if we stay up it will be my biggest acheivement" and the players are staying loyal to Tilson who is trying to keep the club together.....

Maybe its not quite like this - (in denial again?) maybe Martin has just misjudged things on the playing side - but if its an accident its one that has a big upside for him - remember how he told us how he used the HMRC as a bank - nice facility to have RM - thats our football club you are playing with ...

whatever we have to get behind the players and manger - but I wouldn't buy a season ticket -

No as I have said its simple if Southend Fail = Ron Fail = No sainsburys = No fossets farm = Rejection of reapplication due to no ground = Ron left with some land ON GREEN BELT worth next to **** all from his investment

Scott, I couldn't have put it better myself. This Rayleigh boy has the vision of Stevie Wonder!

 

[chapperzUK]

It will all come down to whether we stay up or not.

We stay up = Tilson is a bigger legend, Ron is still evil
We go down = Tilson is still a legend, Ron is Satan.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

No as I have said its simple if Southend Fail = Ron Fail = No sainsburys = No fossets farm = Rejection of reapplication due to no ground = Ron left with some land ON GREEN BELT worth next to **** all from his investment

this is a fair enough and rational point of view -

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Another stupid post and a total load of Bollocks

this is a really stupid post

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Scott, I couldn't have put it better myself. This Rayleigh boy has the vision of Stevie Wonder!

this is not very nice - especially to SW

 

[McNasty]

Another stupid post and a total load of Bollocks

this is a really stupid post

No, that is his opinion --- just like you posted yours.

 

[Strykr]

the situation now is exactly what Ron Martin wants and always has wanted -

When he bought SUFC we were League 2 and going no-where and he had no intention of changing that - after all he appointed a youth team coach who had no previous experience to manage the club -

Unfortunately for him Tilson steered the club to success and RM had to tag along - and of course any capitalist pig worth his salt knows how to bleed a good few quid out of an ever increasing turnover - GBP 1.9 million for a few fancy drawings for a start -

and with all the noise on the pitch he got exactly what he needed - planning permission for FF - so now he could shake hands with Sainsburys - done deal thank you very much .....

Now one thing left to do for Uncle Ron ...... do Tilsons knees, downgrade the football club and hence downgrade the stadium (think Yeovil, Northampton) and walk away a very rich man ....

Its hard to accept isn't it ?

Are we all in denial ?

Even Freedman (as he made for the exit) only dared go as far as "maybe he's focusing too much on the long term" but lets get real ....

Ron Martin has busted up Tilsons squad and left him with nothing -

Barratt almost went public with his "if we stay up it will be my biggest acheivement" and the players are staying loyal to Tilson who is trying to keep the club together.....

Maybe its not quite like this - (in denial again?) maybe Martin has just misjudged things on the playing side - but if its an accident its one that has a big upside for him - remember how he told us how he used the HMRC as a bank - nice facility to have RM - thats our football club you are playing with ...

whatever we have to get behind the players and manger - but I wouldn't buy a season ticket -

1. you seriously think that?? unbeleivable!
i assure you there are much safer bets as a property investor then taking on a struggling league 2 team
2. this youth team manager you refer to i seem to recall wasnt rms first choice, but he was awarded the job on merit after our performances
3. a few fancy drawings? come on! im sure you didnt think th\t before the credit crunch, im sure you thought, wow, we've got the best in the business to do our designs!
4. what he needed yes, what we needed yes. SUFC is a loss making business, FF gives us the chance for a new start. i have southend programmes going back the last 20 years that have "artists impressions of the new stadium on them" despite all whats gone on, we have never been closer
5. a lot of players left for bigger clubs, a lot of contracts were not improved to keep players due to wage structure, etc etc blah blah
during his tenure weve spent a lot of money on forwards, 90 percent haveunderperformed which leads to obvious questions about our midfield
6. I think you'll find throughout our history we have always done this, we certainly did in the jobson era. a debt has always been there, this government just hasnt been as lenient
7. that'll help,

jurys out on a lot of things, but a post like that is just crazy,

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

I, along with almost everybody else, haven't got a clue what is happening or how it will all end.

I've seen this all before...

 

[Mick]

i assure you there are much safer bets as a property investor then taking on a struggling league 2 team

Of course. But he didn't want a safe bet; he's going for the jackpot ... the high risk, high rewards option.

At the moment, the football club is severely compromised by his actions.

Will it all come good for him and the football club? Will it all fall apart and take the football club with him?

I really don't know but there are just too many unknowns to rubbish any views at present.

 

[Beefy]

Ron Martin has more to lose than anyone. If the Club folds and the developments at Roots Hall and Fossetts Farm don't happen (and if there's no Club then there's no way that he'll be able to build his flats/shops/hotel/casino) then I think Martin Dawn would swiftly follow.

 

[Tommy2holes]

No as I have said its simple if Southend Fail = Ron Fail = No sainsburys = No fossets farm = Rejection of reapplication due to no ground = Ron left with some land ON GREEN BELT worth next to **** all from his investment

Im not sure how sainsbury's would feel about that. Havent they already paid there money for the roots hall site?

 

[TrueBlue]

Im not sure how sainsbury's would feel about that. Havent they already paid there money for the roots hall site?

a fraction but the covernent on the site would hamper them

 

[philtalkin]

Of course. But he didn't want a safe bet; he's going for the jackpot ... the high risk, high rewards option.

At the moment, the football club is severely compromised by his actions.

Will it all come good for him and the football club? Will it all fall apart and take the football club with him?

I really don't know but there are just too many unknowns to rubbish any views at present.

When he first started this 'project' the risk was very low. Letting out the retail units at very high rents, no problem. Sainsburys (and others i.e Morrisons) falling over themselves to buy RH, banks queuing up to lend Ron the money to finance the lot, etc etc..

Don't forget that 3 years ago, the only stumbling block (but not really a risk) was getting the plans through. Once he did that then he was on to a sure fire winner.

And then everything changed.

So, sure, now it is a massive risk, but he doesn't have a choice anymore.