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Battle of the Bobbys

Which Bobby is the National Treasure?

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Yorkshire Blue

Super Moderator
Staff member
Oct 27, 2003
SBH's thread which listed Bobby Moore as a legend but not Bobby Charlton got me thinking.

My understanding was that in the 1960s or 1970s if you said you were English to a foreigner, the foreigner would reply "aah, Bobby Charlton!"

How come Moore has replaced him as the iconic English footballer?

It can't be his role in Escape to Victory as it didn't do much for Kevin O'Callaghan's career.

Whilst Moore might have, like a bracelet in a Bogota jewellers, lifted the World Cup, Charlton was still, I understand, revered the world over in the 1970s. Is Moore's fame national, whilst Charlton's international?

Is it because Charlton was forever linked with the evil empire of Man U, whilst Moore played for a tin-pot club before seeing his career out with Fulham, and was therefore seen as an international and not a club footballer?

Is it because Moore is no longer of this world, whilst Charlton is now an old man? Is it because Bobby Moore didn't have a mad brother?

When did Bobby Moore overtake Bobby Charlton in people's affections to become the primary footballing national treasure?