Battle of the Bobbys

[Yorkshire Blue]

SBH's thread which listed Bobby Moore as a legend but not Bobby Charlton got me thinking.

My understanding was that in the 1960s or 1970s if you said you were English to a foreigner, the foreigner would reply "aah, Bobby Charlton!"

How come Moore has replaced him as the iconic English footballer?

It can't be his role in Escape to Victory as it didn't do much for Kevin O'Callaghan's career.

Whilst Moore might have, like a bracelet in a Bogota jewellers, lifted the World Cup, Charlton was still, I understand, revered the world over in the 1970s. Is Moore's fame national, whilst Charlton's international?

Is it because Charlton was forever linked with the evil empire of Man U, whilst Moore played for a tin-pot club before seeing his career out with Fulham, and was therefore seen as an international and not a club footballer?

Is it because Moore is no longer of this world, whilst Charlton is now an old man? Is it because Bobby Moore didn't have a mad brother?

When did Bobby Moore overtake Bobby Charlton in people's affections to become the primary footballing national treasure?

 

[Rayleigh Weir]

When he became Southend manager?

 

[canveyshrimper]

When he became Southend manager?

Quite right, close the thread YB. :smile:

 

[Cricko]

I never liked Bobby Moore* or that fat pikey who throws arrows....Bobby Charlton is a fantastic ambassador for football the world over and was a great player.

*Did you know Wet Spam won the World Cup BTW.

 

[South Bank Hank]

SBH's thread which listed Bobby Moore as a legend but not Bobby Charlton...

I never liked Bobby Moore* or that fat pikey who throws arrows....Bobby Charlton is a fantastic ambassador for football the world over and was a great player.

So add Bobby Charlton then. The idea is to add to the list.

:dim:

 

[canveyshrimper]

England won the World Cup in 1966 with three world class players.

Banks, Bobby Charlton & Moore.

In this instance I'll forgive Moore his scum ham affiliations. Moore quite simply is the best defender I have ever seen. Considering he was one footed, slow and couldn't head a ball, the way he read a game was second to none, and he could time his tackles to perfection. "That tackle by Moore" in the 1970 World Cup.

 

[South Bank Hank]

...and anyway, where's the option for Bobby Davro?

 

[Swiss Tony]

Pele swapped shirts with Bobby Moore not old cry baby nuff said.