Battle of the lyricists

[MK Shrimper]

I've never heard of Trap, hence it's not a movement. It needs to break into the mainstream like punk, disco or hip hop.

 

[Ricky Otto]

You have probably heard some Trap when watching Atlanta MK

 

[Firestorm]

I've never heard of Trap, hence it's not a movement. It needs to break into the mainstream like punk, disco or hip hop.

If you are talking Youth Movement , that's different, Britpop wasn't either.

I am probably wrong, but the last real youth movements , I think wereGoth and the Skater Boys grunge thing, and that was 18 years ago. There seems little disparity in the "styles" these days , certainly in the youth. There are still traces in other age groups

 

[MK Shrimper]

You have probably heard some Trap when watching Atlanta MK

I have, seen both series. Zazie Beets.........

 

[MK Shrimper]

If you are talking Youth Movement , that's different, Britpop wasn't either.

I am probably wrong, but the last real youth movements , I think wereGoth and the Skater Boys grunge thing, and that was 18 years ago. There seems little disparity in the "styles" these days , certainly in the youth. There are still traces in other age groups

I'd say when popular music crosses into the mainstream and those at the forefront are public names it becomes a movement. Johnny Rotten/Kurt Cobain/Liam & Noel Gallagher. There has been noone since the brothers from Burnage that has created such headlines.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Here is something you may like, jazz but massively influenced by hip hop.

Can't say it does anything for me sorry.Not really a horn section man.

 

[Firestorm]

I'd say when popular music crosses into the mainstream and those at the forefront are public names it becomes a movement. Johnny Rotten/Kurt Cobain/Liam & Noel Gallagher. There has been noone since the brothers from Burnage that has created such headlines.

Fair enough, although I feel that a movement is more than just the music and the headlines around it, it is also a style, a look, a way of life , albeit temporarily
, for those involved
It covers a spread of bands , spawning new bands with a similar sound , and then as the mainstream pick up on the movement , the marketeers latch on, the age profile drops , copy cat crap bands come along , its gets tacky , gimmicky and then the early adopters grow up/ get fed up with the kids and it all collapses . See Mod x2 , punk, Skins x 2 ,Soulboys Casuals, etc etc

 

[Floval Flyer]

Does anyone over 40 seriously like rap or hip-hop?

You’re kidding me... I’ve been into Hip Hop since 1985; and I’m definitely over 40... late 80s / early 90s hip hop were the best years for me. Nothing comes close.

Check any of the artists in my post above, can’t say I can convince you that you’ll like them, but there are some classic albums out there that you’ve never heard before.

FWIW; I listen to many different music genres... Jazz to Techno, Acid House to Dub reggae, but I always gravitate back to my Hip Hop Roots. ?

 

[Floval Flyer]

I'm 48 so was exactly the right age for rap classics like 'It takes a nation of millions' in 1988.

Incredible album, but so were Yo! Bum Rush the show and Fear of a black planet.

Welcome to the terrordome is probably my fave P.E. track, that or Rebel without a pause

P.E. and the Beasties are just up there, nothing comes close

 

[GROWLER]

While I accept your point, it just means for me there's less music out there that I feel tempted to listen to or buy.That's a win,win situation for me.BTW check out Mickey Jupp's Modern Music on this point.

Or SOMEPLACE WHERE ITS MONDAY

You sum up my feelings entirely and would have stood up for Michael if you had not beaten me to

Hence going for JJ Cale instead

My first pint, a little underage was in the Esplanade and no sooner had the tallest of us got the four pints back to a secluded table a certain musician piped up with a Blues riff and I was hookeed!!!

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You’re kidding me... I’ve been into Hip Hop since 1985; and I’m definitely over 40... late 80s / early 90s hip hop were the best years for me. Nothing comes close.

Check any of the artists in my post above, can’t say I can convince you that you’ll like them, but there are some classic albums out there that you’ve never heard before.

FWIW; I listen to many different music genres... Jazz to Techno, Acid House to Dub reggae, but I always gravitate back to my Hip Hop Roots. ?

I think we always gravitate back to the music we heard first as teenagers.In my case that was the Beatles/Stones etc. back in the early 60's.I listen to a lot of music too.Blues,jazz,country,folk and pop mostly.Even some classical from time to time.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Or SOMEPLACE WHERE ITS MONDAY

You sum up my feelings entirely and would have stood up for Michael if you had not beaten me to

Hence going for JJ Cale instead

My first pint, a little underage was in the Esplanade and no sooner had the tallest of us got the four pints back to a secluded table a certain musician piped up with a Blues riff and I was hookeed!!!

I owe you an aoplogy for not voting for JJ Clale.Must have been hung over or something.Always was a huge fan.

Someplace where it's Monday is a good shout.Off Long Distance Romancer right?

 

[Supernaut]

You’re kidding me... I’ve been into Hip Hop since 1985; and I’m definitely over 40... late 80s / early 90s hip hop were the best years for me. Nothing comes close.

Check any of the artists in my post above, can’t say I can convince you that you’ll like them, but there are some classic albums out there that you’ve never heard before.

FWIW; I listen to many different music genres... Jazz to Techno, Acid House to Dub reggae, but I always gravitate back to my Hip Hop Roots. ?

Did you listen Mike Allen on Capital back then? I really miss those days.

 

[MK Shrimper]

QF draw:

The Gibb Brothers v Bob Dylan
Morrissey v Ian Dury
Kate Bush v Joe Jackson
John Lennon v Billy Bragg

Starts Monday.

 

[Floval Flyer]

Did you listen Mike Allen on Capital back then? I really miss those days.

Sure did! And Dave Pearce and Roger Johnson (RJ Scratch) on the wheels of steel.

Claim to fame is having a couple of beers and a smoke with RJ after a gig he did at the Hadleigh Suite BITD

 

[Floval Flyer]

I think we always gravitate back to the music we heard first as teenagers.In my case that was the Beatles/Stones etc. back in the early 60's.I listen to a lot of music too.Blues,jazz,country,folk and pop mostly.Even some classical from time to time.

Talking of the Beatles, my 14 yo son is a big fan and likes Bowie too. He’s spending all his pocket money on old vinyl and reissues. I’ve just dug my old Technics 1210s out of the loft. Incredibly they work perfectly despite being 30 years old and being in the loft for the last 12 years.

 

[The Big Dady]

Technics 1210s

Great decks, think they were the first direct-drive deck I had. So much better than the old belt-drives decks.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Talking of the Beatles, my 14 yo son is a big fan and likes Bowie too. He’s spending all his pocket money on old vinyl and reissues. I’ve just dug my old Technics 1210s our if the loft. Incredibly they work perfectly despite being 30 years old and being in the loft for the last 12 years

The modern equivalent of my old (blue) Dansette player,I suppose.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Sorry been busy painting today. I'll start it tomorrow.

 

[AndyT]

Sure did! And Dave Pearce and Roger Johnson (RJ Scratch) on the wheels of steel.

Claim to fame is having a couple of beers and a smoke with RJ after a gig he did at the Hadleigh Suite BITD

Good nights they were at The Hadleigh Suite