Benefit Caps Kick In

[Tangled up in Blue]

I think it is always important to sometimes take a look at the third world to realise just how much you do have, yes. Indeed, despite what is deemed as third world, their attitude to hard work is first rate.

That said i would be interested for you to highlight to us the benefit perks of Spain (since you have a good knowledge of Spain), compared to that of the UK.

Unemployment benefit (which is capped) is extremely generous for two years (provided that you've made full contributions in the previous six years).After that you get practically nothing.There is an unemployment subsidy after that, if you have dependants, but it's a very small amount and certainly not equivalent to a living wage.
Regular ss/housing benefits don't exist at all here in the way they do in the UK. That's why the long term unemployed work on the black and use food banks.

 

[Davros]

Unemployment benefit (which is capped) is extremely generous for two years (provided that you've made full contributions in the previous six years).After that you get practically nothing.There is an unemployment subsidy after that, if you have dependants, but it's a very small amount and certainly not equivalent to a living wage.
Regular ss/housing benefits don't exist at all here in the way they do in the UK. That's why the long term unemployed work on the black and use food banks.

So you would say, on the whole, that the system supports those that have worked, and encourages people to find jobs, in the medium term at least?

 

[Lord Football]

Can I just point out, for the matter of clarity, I used Hitler as an example of when people lay the blame to specific groupings, I was not, and did not intend to make a comparison between Hitler, Thatcher or this Government and indeed attempted to word it such.

As much as I despise the latter two, I am more than aware that Hitler is pretty much incomparable to anyone else over the last 2000 years; and I'd never attempt to link his behaviour to any other person living or dead (and indeed I hope I never have to).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So you would say, on the whole, that the system supports those that have worked, and encourages people to find jobs, in the medium term at least?

Short to medium term,yes.Though it doesn't help people who are self-employed, for example, and can longer afford to make their monthly NI payments.

 

[Napster]

Can I just point out, for the matter of clarity, I used Hitler as an example of when people lay the blame to specific groupings, I was not, and did not intend to make a comparison between Hitler, Thatcher or this Government and indeed attempted to word it such.

As much as I despise the latter two, I am more than aware that Hitler is pretty much incomparable to anyone else over the last 2000 years; and I'd never attempt to link his behaviour to any other person living or dead (and indeed I hope I never have to).

So there is someone else comparable who lived approx 2000 years ago? Jesus Christ? :stunned:

 

[Davros]

Pontius Pilate?

 

[Benfleet A1]

Can I just point out, for the matter of clarity, I used Hitler as an example of when people lay the blame to specific groupings, I was not, and did not intend to make a comparison between Hitler, Thatcher or this Government and indeed attempted to word it such.

As much as I despise the latter two, I am more than aware that Hitler is pretty much incomparable to anyone else over the last 2000 years; and I'd never attempt to link his behaviour to any other person living or dead (and indeed I hope I never have to).

Oh I don't know. Uncle Joe Stalin did a pretty good job of slaughtering millions. And Chairman Mao wasn't without his charm.

 

[Napster]

Pontius Pilate?

good call davros good call

 

[Lord Football]

Not to my knowledge, but history gets a bit sketchy around then.....

 

[Davros]

Oh I don't know. Uncle Joe Stalin did a pretty good job of slaughtering millions. And Chairman Mao wasn't without his charm.

Pol Pot was a bit of a naughty lad as well

 

[steveo]

Oh I don't know. Uncle Joe Stalin did a pretty good job of slaughtering millions. And Chairman Mao wasn't without his charm.

Hang on Grouty, weren't those two Commies? Surely they wouldn't have done bad things.

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

Pol Pot was a bit of a naughty lad as well

Just misunderstood i hear,his mother loved him.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Post deleted - Grouty had already made the point.

 

[Lord Football]

As was Pinochet.