Brexit negotiations thread

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

What has the EDL or fake news have to do with my post. Another example of your Straw man tactics when you have no answers

You: By the way its the left who like to smash things and need a riot shield in the face.
Reality: street violence in recent years has predominantly come from the far right associations of Tommy Robinson.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Tory Whip Gareth Johnson resigns his post. I think we can safely say May's deal is doomed.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Halle-flippin-lujah, some common sense spoken amongst all the irritating, self-serving, head-in-the-sand crap we've had to listen to from all sides - and in the Guardian of all places!

MPs are lying to voters - Simon Jenkins

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Have you never heard of the EDL?

Apparently counter terrorism costs are currently as high for far right extremists as they are for Islamists. The murder of Jo Cox has been followed by murder plots against Sadiq Khan and Jeremy Corbyn.

Murder plots, Strong words, any evidence to present or was this just some throbber on social media?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Tory Whip Gareth Johnson resigns his post. I think we can safely say May's deal is doomed.

Timing of that will lead to predictions of an even bigger defeat for the government. Be interested in his reasoning. That is a massive kick in the teeth for May.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Murder plots, Strong words, any evidence to present or was this just some throbber on social media?

Far right terrorists virtually queuing up to murder Labour MPs according to court hearings.


www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/finsbury-park-terror-trial-latest-darren-osborne-wanted-to-kill-jeremy-corbyn-sadiq-khan-palestine-a8186061.html%3famp


www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-terror-plot-rosie-cooper-murder-labour-mp-jack-renshaw-nazi-a8395026.html%3famp


www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/565497/Noe-nazis-threaten-kill-Sadiq-Khan-after-Jo-Cox-murderer-jailed/amp

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Hardly Guido Fawkes is it?
Type of rubbish you see every hour of every day on Twitter from all types, left and right.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Hardly Guido Fawkes is it?
Type of rubbish you see every hour of every day on Twitter from all types, left and right.

Since when has Guido Fawkes been a byword for reputable journalism?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Hardly Guido Fawkes is it?
Type of rubbish you see every hour of every day on Twitter from all types, left and right.

****ing hell!!
Plots to murder MPs uncovered by the police and used as evidence in court and you brush it off despite the fact that 2 years ago one of these psychos actually murdered an MP.
You might want to reconsider your nonchalance towards that.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Since when has Guido Fawkes been a byword for reputable journalism?

I think that was a Freudian slip.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Halle-flippin-lujah, some common sense spoken amongst all the irritating, self-serving, head-in-the-sand crap we've had to listen to from all sides - and in the Guardian of all places!

MPs are lying to voters - Simon Jenkins

Seems your post is being sidetracked or ignored SS

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Quelle surprise!

 

[MK Shrimper]

Quelle surprise!

I read it and he's talking bollocks.

Remainers cling to the pretence that the referendum was not sensible and, by some device, can be reversed. It cannot.

It was (probably) illegal and it can.

 

[Bielzibubz]

I read it and he's talking bollocks.

Remainers cling to the pretence that the referendum was not sensible and, by some device, can be reversed. It cannot.

It was (probably) illegal and it can.

Talking of a load of bollocks................

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Timing of that will lead to predictions of an even bigger defeat for the government. Be interested in his reasoning. That is a massive kick in the teeth for May.

The timing really is immaculate, just when we were being given the impression things were moving a bit more May's way.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I read it and he's talking bollocks.

Remainers cling to the pretence that the referendum was not sensible and, by some device, can be reversed. It cannot.

It was (probably) illegal and it can.

It wasn't illegal. His point is not that it isn't technically possible to reverse the result with a further vote, it is that if you think doing that would magically end all disagreement around the UK's relationship with the EU then you are frighteningly naive and deluded.

 

[MK Shrimper]

It wasn't illegal. His point is not that it isn't technically possible to reverse the result with a further vote, it is that if you think doing that would magically end all disagreement around the UK's relationship with the EU then you are frighteningly naive and deluded.

Oh I know it won't end the disagreements, they've never ending since the mid 70s when we joined the Common Market, but it will do is stop the country from diving into an abyss where it might not recover for 20+ years.

And I have to disagree, it was corrupt.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Oh I know it won't end the disagreements, they've never ending since the mid 70s when we joined the Common Market, but it will do is stop the country from diving into an abyss where it might not recover for 20+ years.

And I have to disagree, it was corrupt.

MK, the vote was NOT corrupt. It was legislated for, administered on referendum day in line with international standards and nobody questions the accuracy of vote tallies. That is manifestly not an illegal process.

If you disagree with some of the campaigning that is one that but it does not make the vote illegal.

 

[MK Shrimper]

MK, the vote was NOT corrupt. It was legislated for, administered on referendum day in line with international standards and nobody questions the accuracy of vote tallies. That is manifestly not an illegal process.

If you disagree with some of the campaigning that is one that but it does not make the vote illegal.

How much the various leave campaigns been fined for overspending?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

How much the various leave campaigns been fined for overspending?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

That DOES NOT MAKE THE VOTE ILLEGAL.... blimey MK, please stop conflating different things!

Illegality, if it happens, by one person or locally does not invalidate an entire national vote or make that vote illegal unless the vote itself was unconstitutionally held; held in an atmosphere of physical violence and intimidation at polling stations and/or ballot boxes were stuffed. None of those things happened.

Your criticism is that you think some people advocating for the outcome which the vote produced had spent a bit too much to pay for their advertising space?