Budget 2014

[Pubey]

That's the cumulative effect - have you separate figures for those in employment as opposed to those merely claiming benefits?

Nope!:smile:

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I think the opinions on this thread are well balanced and both sides of the debate have their own views... well that was until you decided the Left have no real valid opinion.

Coming from someone with nothing positive to say about anything...

 

[Cricko]

Coming from someone with nothing positive to say about anything...

Ha Ha ..I am older than most, been there, done it, seen it all...have you a valid question you wanted my opinion on or was that your total input?

 

[Pubey]

I think the opinions on this thread are well balanced and both sides of the debate have their own views... well that was until you decided the Left have no real valid opinion.

Indeed. It's an interesting thread.

I get annoyed when people try to put people into the left/right box. As Steveo said earlier, you don't always agree with everything even if you do lean in a particular direction. Just because you don't agree with a labour policy doesn't automatically make you a tory, or if you are tory doesn't mean you have to agree with everything Thatcher did!

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Ha Ha ..I am older than most, been there, done it, seen it all...have you a valid question you wanted my opinion on or was that your total input.

well if you have been there and seen it all then we all obviously unworthy.
go and kick the cat or something.

 

[Cricko]

well if you have been there and seen it all then we all obviously unworthy.
go and kick the cat or something.

Very weak..take notes back to school.."Have to try harder" x

Anyway my apologies we have strayed of topic.

 

[Cricko]

A question...How can the standard of living for the high earners keep growing whilst the standard of the poor keep shrinking in a supposedly democratic society?

What happened to love thy neighbour if they were less fortunate than you.What happened to humanity to condemn those that are not of high value to society through no choice of their own. Some people are just who they are, unemployable for whatever reason and less fortunate than others......There but for the grace God go I.....

We now live in a very selfish world where all that counts in Number 1......dark days indeed.

 

[londonblue]

I know it's a thorn in the side of the left but this is a coalition government.
Danny Alexander is a Lib Dem MP who is very much left of centre.

In that case, let's see what Boris Johnson has to say about it:

BBC

I didn't write the bloody thing.

 

[blues_r_best]

Could it be argued that the standard of living has been artificially raised through spending on credit and now everyone has to re-adjust to how it should have been?

 

[Cricko]

 

[Cricko]

Could it be argued that the standard of living has been artificially raised through spending on credit and now everyone has to re-adjust to how it should have been?

Or maybe the desperation of people not being afford to live without credit cards , forced upon the by the huge costs of living while wages for us plebs keep shrinking.

Bingo tonight for me and I get a free pint after buying 300 of them....Yipeee.

 

[steveo]

Or maybe the desperation of people not being afford to live without credit cards , forced upon the by the huge costs of living while wages for us plebs keep shrinking.

But are peoples expectations of what they should have much higher than say 40 years ago? Back then there were no mobile phones, Sky TV, Long haul holidays, very few new cars, most tellys were rented. Were people better off in those days?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

But are peoples expectations of what they should have much higher than say 40 years ago? Back then there were no mobile phones, Sky TV, Long haul holidays, very few new cars, most tellys were rented. Were people better off in those days?

40 years ago was of course 1974.

I can remember flying to the USA in 1973 (as a student).

IIRC,my father always drove a (fairly) new car back in the 60's.

We did have a rented colour TV when they first came in but not after that.

 

[KAB]

Credit is a fact of life for any economy based on consumerism as its main point of growth, the reality of that however, is boom and bust. I except that credit has its good and bad points but at what stage will that be changed by a government that is bold enough to invest in the creation of a society where these are not the only factors that determine our well being or future prospects. Its not a left v right issue but one of emphasis towards a goal that we all have a stake in. This budget, like so many others, changes nothing. The haves will have more and will hopefully invest in some enterprise that doesnt involve squirelling away money in an offshore account and the don't haves will have less but not too much less, otherwise they wont go out and spend money on beer and bingo disrupting the Holy consumer cycle.

 

[Cricko]

But are peoples expectations of what they should have much higher than say 40 years ago? Back then there were no mobile phones, Sky TV, Long haul holidays, very few new cars, most tellys were rented. Were people better off in those days?

Most middle class people want to keep up with the "click" as dictated by their general way of like minded friends or associates, otherwise they are classed as out of touch losers. I agree there was less choice in the old days and it would sound a bit daft of me to say otherwise....but peoples caring of others were. Today it is a downward spiral. I can only see through my own old eyes, but for sure this is a one way trip with the money makers having all.

 

[Cricko]

The fact still remains http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?81185-Budget-2014&p=1617407#post1617407

 

[steveo]

40 years ago was of course 1974.

I can remember flying to the USA in 1972 (as a student).

IIRC,my father always drove a (fairly) new car back in the 60's.

We did have a rented colour TV when they first came in but not after that.

I reckon you were the exception then Barna.

 

[Hotman]

It was a budget for the "haves" not the "have nots",(who of course aren't usually Tory voters by and large).

There was nothing there at all for young people.:thumbdown:

Removal of ENIC for youngsters?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Removal of ENIC for youngsters?

You what? :unsure:

 

[Hotman]

Employers NI for under 21's... the "jobs tax".