Camp Bling solution...

[shrimptank]

Leave Camp Bling to the Family Stand.

Fristly bring in the kids to carry out some tree planting activities elsewhere in the borough....very educational and something that schools are in favour of.

Then bring in the older kids to sit outside and play on their PSP's / walkmen etc... and create an unsavoury atmosphere and drive them up the wall...

Bring in the even older kids (often alluded to as adults) to chop the trees down so there's nothing to moan about.

Finally bring in the stewards in the big orange coats to do some customer service!

 

[southendstrett]

Quote[/b] (shrimptank @ May 20 2006,10:45)]Finally bring in the stewards in the big orange coats to do some customer service!  

 

Spot on, when the hippies stand up to protest they will be ejected.

 

[Groyne Strain]

Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

 

[J]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 21 2006,01:53)]Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

here here

 

[Bielzibubz]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ May 21 2006,10:15)]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 21 2006,01:53)]Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

here here

Would you still be of that opinion if our new ground was dependent on the road widening scheme?

Also, something that seems to have been forgotten here. The site is exactly that, just a site. All the artifacts found are now in museums. IMO the scientific and hisorical importance of the site is in what was found, not the specific place in which they were found.

btw, Channel 4, 4.50pm today is the re-run of the Time Team Special all about 'King Bling' and the discoveries made in Southend.

 

[Bielzibubz]

One more thing.

I have spoken to a number of people that live in the area of the proposed widening scheme and beyond and they have openly admitted to me that they signed the petition knowing that the FF development was on the cards at the time the discoveries were made and they saw it as a way to put a spanner in the works of the development.

I think it's safe to assume that a percentage of those that signed the petition were more concerned about the possible price depreciation in their properties and general effect it would have on their lives.

A lot of the attention concerning 'camp bling' has been whipped up by the NYMBY's that live in that area and who also couldn't give two monkeys about the artifacts found at the site and their histotical and local importance.

 

[C'mon you Blues]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ May 21 2006,10:15)]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 21 2006,01:53)]Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

here here

lads the artifacts have all been excavated and are at the London Museum waiting for Southend to built a permanent venue for them (estimated date of completion about year 3,087

) I bet that they'll find other stuff when the road scheme goes ahead. Personally I'd bulldoze the lot of them.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Quote[/b] (C'mon you Blues @ May 21 2006,11:17)]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ May 21 2006,10:15)]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 21 2006,01:53)]Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

here here

lads the artifacts have all been excavated and are at the London Museum waiting for Southend to built a permanent venue for them (estimated date of completion about year 3,087

) I bet that they'll find other stuff when the road scheme goes ahead. Personally I'd bulldoze the lot of them.

here here

 

[Groyne Strain]

Quote[/b] (D62SUBOY @ May 21 2006,10:48)]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ May 21 2006,10:15)]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 21 2006,01:53)]Or better still, stop the road widening scheme, which over 20,000 stated they are opposed to, and save a recently discovered national treasure.

here here

Would you still be of that opinion if our new ground was dependent on the road widening scheme?

Yes.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

But if the location was such a find dont you think the Musuem of London would be getting more involved.

After all that was left was the items, they took out. The burial chamber is no more and was only a computer generated mock up of what it would have looked like. So in fact all we have is load of mud with some grass on it.

Also good to see another supporter from the west of this area who is hardly affected by this section of road.

If the government was to press ahead with the Southend bypass and could guarantee expediting it's creation then I would consider this expansion as a folly but until this happens this is vital to help eliviate the congestion that builds up there from the East of Southend, which will not be helped when the MOD turn over more land to property developers around the New Ranges.

Note to oneself always best to read all the other posts before responding.

 

[Groyne Strain]

All valid points (even if repeated ;-) ... ) but there's always that lingering thought at the back of the mind that there are more undiscovered artefacts and treasures of historical importance within a hair's breadth of being discovered.

Leaving conjecture aside, I simply love Priory Park as it is and use it regularly. The pre-match kick-around with my lad when Southend are at home is one of the joys of life. This joy, I'm certain, is shared with many others too.

I just feel that the overall quality of life would diminish if a strip of the park was taken away. Once it's gone it's gone. It's debatable if any decision on the road and park would have a massive influence on Fossetts Farm but if it did, given the choice, I'd prefer to keep the park as it is and continue the archaeological dig over getting a new ground.

 

[Mick]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ May 22 2006,05:10)]All valid points (even if repeated  ;-) ... ) but there's always that lingering thought at the back of the mind that there are more undiscovered artefacts and treasures of historical importance within a hair's breadth of being discovered.

Leaving conjecture aside, I simply love Priory Park as it is and use it regularly.  The pre-match kick-around with my lad when Southend are at home is one of the joys of life.  This joy, I'm certain, is shared with many others too.

I just feel that the overall quality of life would diminish if a strip of the park was taken away.  Once it's gone it's gone.  It's debatable if any decision on the road and park would have a massive influence on Fossetts Farm but if it did, given the choice, I'd prefer to keep the park as it is and continue the archaeological dig over getting a new ground.

Removing .00001 percent of the park will hardly detract from your pre-match kickaround. Mind you, I'll miss that tree that used to overhang the football pitch prompting many a debate about whether the ball was actually out of play.

 

[The Fitter]

I apologise for repeating my post from the pub camp bling thread but:

I have said it before and I will say it again. The road widening on that little section will achieve nothing. If you think you will be zooming through and happily coasting onto the A127 you are more deluded than any sad sack that wants to sit in trees and smoke wacky backie all day. If you think the stadium plans will fail if the road scheme fails you are equally deluded.
If we want to build a flyover from Sutton road roundabout to progress road I'm all for it. To widen that insignificant section is a total waste of time and money and all this will mean is you can sit at the lights at cuckoo corner 3 mins earlier.

The whole area needs a bypass and that is the way forward. Sorry but I am sick and tired of Council\Goverment ar$e wipes deciding what green land to concrete next. They don't own the land so pi$$ off and leave alone. Gunners park is shrinking and after Priory Park has lost that small section they need for the road then it won't be long before another piece is needed and so on.

I have no time for spongers and layabouts but I also have no time for to$$ers in authority who dictate to people and tell us what's best for us.

There you go.

 

[Jam_Man]

First I was for the expansion as that part of southend is a pain to drive to, and the park is big enough to lost a bit. (I live over the road to it and go over there often and have no issue with it losing a bit),

Then I saw what Camp bling had done to the area and would now rather they built a car park on the site than the mess they have created.

Finally SUFC are trying to move to a new ground and the travel will be a nightmare if nothing is done, and could cause problems with it being agreed. (even if as said above it doesnt solve the problem)

So in summary, boot the pikeys off and pave over paradise!

 

[Davros]

a good way to bring up a baby??

???!!!

 

[southendstrett]

Exactly my point I made on another thread, where's the social services?
As far as the road goes I actually couldn't give a toss one way or the other, although I use it every day, but because of the pikeys, I so badly want that road now just to f%&k them off.
Get the kids out and napalm the place. I'll do it.

 

[shrimptank]

There's nothing wrong with giving kids an alternative lifestyle but bringing them up by the side of a busy road in a tree house does push it a little bit. I'm sure their parents are careful with them but it's IMO rather stupid and irresponsible.

 

[Smiffy]

I think it's rather pot, kettle and black when the swampies say they are trying to protect the tree's and wildlife in the area etc etc...

They are building houses in the tree's and trampling all over the protected area for f%&k sake, hardly good for nature is it?!..

Now, I understand what they are protesting about but that doesn't mean I have to respect it...

I myself spent many, many years running about the park, climbing the tree's and all that, but for the sake of a few tree's (which will be replaced twice over) it's a worthwhile project this road widening scheme, and must go ahead at all costs, to save this town from grinding to an eventual hault.

These people at Camp Bling need to realise that the days of running around naked in fields with flowers in their hair are long gone, this is a large commuting town which need's to catch up with the others, and the only way it's going to do this is via improvements, which on top of the list, must be the transport links.

Southend, is a town, not a countryside retreat, if you want green pi$$ off to the sticks, if not put up or shut up with all the concrete...

I want my home town to become great again, I want to see transport improvements, I want to see urban regeneration, I want to see a big Casino, I want to see 25 storey glass towers and new bars, clubs and restaurants, pavement cafe's, huge rollercoasters and the like......why?...

Because it's my home town, and I want it to be the best town in Britain.

This will only be achieved by all these dream's becoming reality.

If not, this town will continue to move downwards, and rapidly.

But, that's my opinion and there will be other's who disagree with me and I understand that, but that's all...

 

[Bielzibubz]

Quote[/b] (Smiffy @ May 23 2006,23:51)]I think it's rather pot, kettle and black when the swampies say they are trying to protect the tree's and wildlife in the area etc etc...

They are building houses in the tree's and trampling all over the protected area for f%&k sake, hardly good for nature is it?!..

Now, I understand what they are protesting about but that doesn't mean I have to respect it...

I myself spent many, many years running about the park, climbing the tree's and all that, but for the sake of a few tree's (which will be replaced twice over) it's a worthwhile project this road widening scheme, and must go ahead at all costs, to save this town from grinding to an eventual hault.

These people at Camp Bling need to realise that the days of running around naked in fields with flowers in their hair are long gone, this is a large commuting town which need's to catch up with the others, and the only way it's going to do this is via improvements, which on top of the list, must be the transport links.

Southend, is a town, not a countryside retreat, if you want green pi$$ off to the sticks, if not put up or shut up with all the concrete...

I want my home town to become great again, I want to see transport improvements, I want to see urban regeneration, I want to see a big Casino, I want to see 25 storey glass towers and new bars, clubs and restaurants, pavement cafe's, huge rollercoasters and the like......why?...

Because it's my home town, and I want it to be the best town in Britain.

This will only be achieved by all these dream's becoming reality.

If not, this town will continue to move downwards, and rapidly.

But, that's my opinion and there will be other's who disagree with me and I understand that, but that's all...

here bloody here, couldn't have said it better myeslf.

I to grew up through the 70's & 80's in this town and over the years have watched it stagnate and go into decline in one way or another. This town of ours has huge potential but the only way it's going to realise that potential is for this road sceme and all the other regeneration plans planned for the area to go ahead.

 

[chalkwell blue]

Quote[/b] (Smiffy @ May 23 2006,23:51)]I think it's rather pot, kettle and black when the swampies say they are trying to protect the tree's and wildlife in the area etc etc...

They are building houses in the tree's and trampling all over the protected area for f%&k sake, hardly good for nature is it?!..

Now, I understand what they are protesting about but that doesn't mean I have to respect it...

I myself spent many, many years running about the park, climbing the tree's and all that, but for the sake of a few tree's (which will be replaced twice over) it's a worthwhile project this road widening scheme, and must go ahead at all costs, to save this town from grinding to an eventual hault.

These people at Camp Bling need to realise that the days of running around naked in fields with flowers in their hair are long gone, this is a large commuting town which need's to catch up with the others, and the only way it's going to do this is via improvements, which on top of the list, must be the transport links.

Southend, is a town, not a countryside retreat, if you want green pi$$ off to the sticks, if not put up or shut up with all the concrete...

I want my home town to become great again, I want to see transport improvements, I want to see urban regeneration, I want to see a big Casino, I want to see 25 storey glass towers and new bars, clubs and restaurants, pavement cafe's, huge rollercoasters and the like......why?...

Because it's my home town, and I want it to be the best town in Britain.

This will only be achieved by all these dream's becoming reality.

If not, this town will continue to move downwards, and rapidly.

But, that's my opinion and there will be other's who disagree with me and I understand that, but that's all...

Here here. We need more pubs and clubs in southend. Especially clubs, everyone in town is sh!t.