Celtic Reinstated

[southend4ever]

Absolute joke.

They lose 6-1 on aggregate and their opponents field an ineligible player for 2 minutes of the second leg and so Celtic are given a '3-0 walkover' after losing the actual game 2-0. This allows Celtic through on away goals!

There was a precedent set for this which is a very similar parallel (taken from the BBC website): However, in 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

What are your thoughts on this? I am outraged!

 

[Pubey]

Why are you outraged? Are you a closet Legia Warsaw fan?

 

[Uncle Leo]

I like Celtic so I'm not gutted it has happened, but it is (a) embarrassing that Celtic get through having got humped 6-1 and (b) pretty daft that a team can get reprieved on a technicality such as this.

Rules are rules are I suppose, but this is just silly.

 

[Pubey]

I don't really get it, it's a major game and the squads are known in advance and the teams list hours in advance. How can an ineligible player get onto the pitch?! I'm not sure how this mistake can be made.

Oh well, when Southend are in the Champions League in a few years time we'll have to be extra careful...

 

[MK Shrimper]

Lol, what a stupid rule. Lose 6-1 and still go through. :hilarious:

 

[Pubey]

Lol, what a stupid rule. Lose 6-1 and still go through. :hilarious:

Why is it a stupid rule? It stops teams fielding ineligible players.

Is the punishment harsh - not sure. However it has precedence so they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

 

[southend4ever]

Common sense, Pubey. The bloke played for 2 minutes in the second leg! It looks dodgy to me...

 

[southend4ever]

The impact of 2 minutes in the 2nd leg is unlikely to be 5+ goals... but I suppose you never know... :winking:

 

[GrumpyBlue]

Its OK Celtic will get stuffed again in the next round :winking:

 

[Uncle Leo]

Common sense, Pubey. The bloke played for 2 minutes in the second leg! It looks dodgy to me...

So if not a closet Legia fan, perhaps a closet Rangers fan?

This'll have the Huns frothing at the mouth, which is always fun.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Why is it a stupid rule? It stops teams fielding ineligible players.

Is the punishment harsh - not sure. However it has precedence so they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

As S4E said, he played 2 mins - it's not as though he had any bearing on the outcome of the match. Celtic were well and truly shafted, to reinstate them is a mockery.

 

[South Bank Hank]

Common sense, Pubey. The bloke played for 2 minutes in the second leg! It looks dodgy to me...

It's crazy but if the rule doesn't allow for common sense, then the teams need to be more careful. The only common sense legislated for is the sense in not fielding an ineligible player. I'm more intrigued by the precedent you mentioned from 2010 which potentially means we've not heard the last of this.

 

[Pubey]

As S4E said, he played 2 mins - it's not as though he had any bearing on the outcome of the match. Celtic were well and truly shafted, to reinstate them is a mockery.

If the punishment is anything other than extremely harsh then it leaves itself open for abuse.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Its OK Celtic will get stuffed again in the next round :winking:

Probably. Although the list of their potential opponents isn't exactly a who's who of European football

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2129949.html

 

[southend4ever]

It's crazy but if the rule doesn't allow for common sense, then the teams need to be more careful. The only common sense legislated for is the sense in not fielding an ineligible player. I'm more intrigued by the precedent you mentioned from 2010 which potentially means we've not heard the last of this.

Well that's the main issue for me to be honest. There have been enough ineligible players over the years but this has many similar parallels to the one mentioned but the punishment was a fine. Not the rep this governing body wants at the moment!

 

[southend4ever]

If the punishment is anything other than extremely harsh then it leaves itself open for abuse.

Precedent already set 2010.

On 26 August 2010, Máté came on as a last-minute substitute in the 2:1 away win against Bulgarian side Litex Lovech in a UEFA Europa League game. Subsequently, the team from Lovech launched an official complaint, demanding a 3:0 win by default, as Máté had not been entered on the official squad list of the Hungarian team prior to the game. However, UEFA decided against changing the result of the match, settling for a fine of 15,000 euros to be paid by the Hungarians.

 

[GrumpyBlue]

Probably. Although the list of their potential opponents isn't exactly a who's who of European football

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2129949.html

But nor are Celtic

 

[Uncle Leo]

But nor are Celtic

One of only two teams on that list to have won the European Cup :winking:

Still, Maribor are no mugs. That won't be an easy tie for Celtic.

 

[IronMike]

Common sense, Pubey. The bloke played for 2 minutes in the second leg! It looks dodgy to me...

I give you.... Manny Omoyinmi:duh:

 

[southend4ever]

I give you.... Manny Omoyinmi:duh:

Yep. his name runs through my head every post i make in this thread!