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Slipperduke

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Frank Lampard has never been the most popular of footballers, certainly not with fans of other clubs, but you'd have to have a heart of stone not to stand up and applaud his astonishing composure after a emotional night at Stamford Bridge. Seconds after seeing a goal they were already busy celebrating ruled out for offside, Chelsea won a crucial extra-time penalty. Michael Ballack, the hero against Manchester United at the weekend, stepped forward but Lampard, who lost his mother just six days previously, took the ball from him and looked to the heavens for inspiration. Is it sentimental to suggest that he got a response? Without any sign of nerves he smashed the ball home and then crumpled into tears as his father looked on proudly from the stands. Even the Liverpool fans, a sentimental bunch at the best of times, would have had to admire his courage.

They certainly don't admire the work of Didier Drogba, a serial diver who was at his worst at Anfield last week, prompting a fierce condemnation from Rafa Benitez. The Spanish manager is a tactical master, but you have to question the wisdom of launching an outspoken attack on a striker who wasn't exactly in the best form of his career. The big Ivorian responded emphatically, smashing home the first goal and then running all the way to the Liverpool dug-out to skid to his knees and glare at his tormentor.

This was a game played in the worst of conditions on a pitch that began to tear up within minutes of the kick-off. It made for a scrappy, messy match and prevented either side from stringing passes together, a condition that, oddly enough, affected this rejuvenated Chelsea side as much as it did their opponents. For the first half, one Fernando Torres shot aside, Liverpool could barely get out of their own half and were forced to hold their breath as Michael Essien and Michael Ballack peppered Jose Reina's goal with long-shots.

With players skidding about in the mud and passes going astray, it's difficult to isolate a man of the match and this was a rare occasion when the referee, Roberto Rosetti, would have as much claim on the title as anyone else. He was called upon to make four enormous decisions here and he got all of them correct. He disallowed Michael Essien's extra-time strike for offside and, for once, the new, complicated rule was applied to perfection. Chelsea had four players offside when the ball was hit, three of whom were not interfering with play, but Drogba was standing in front of Reina, obscuring his view. Then, moments later, Sami Hyypia slammed into Michael Ballack, costing his side a penalty. Liverpool were denied penalties of their own twice afterwards, once when Ryan Babel dived at the other end and then again when Drogba hung out a leg and Hyypia went down. There was certainly contact, but it was on the leg that was in the air, not the standing leg and Hyypia went down in instalments. Four calls, four correct decisions.

Avram Grant then, for all the abuse and for all the taunts, has made history. No other manager, least of all you-know-who, has ever taken the London side this far. Many of his critics, myself included, have repeatedly said that when this Chelsea side stop playing awful football and do something worth applauding, we'll be the first to start clapping. Grant has just about held his side together in a turbulent season, he has brought them into an improbable title race and he has taken them to Moscow. He's made mistakes along the way and they've highlighted mercilessly, but that's part of being a top level manager. Only ultimate victory will give him the 'special' status, but for the moment he deserves to enjoy the limelight. This night, however, will forever belong to another much-maligned soul whose bravery may finally have won him the widespread respect he has always craved.
 
Slipper,

I totally agree with your comments regards Frank Lampard. Love him or hate him it took courage and strength just to walk out on the pitch in the semi final of the Champions League let alone step up to the plate and take a pen.

If my mum had just passed away i would be struggling to go to work and i just buy for a living.

Good report Slipper as always, a couple of things...

What was the Avram Grant falling to his knees thing all about at the end of the game, It was all a bit Michael Jacksonesk when he was in the video Earth Song.

Secondly were on earth was Roman Abromavich, the owner of a football club that are about to step in to the biggest domestic cup final in the world and he is not even there at his own ground??
 
What was the Avram Grant falling to his knees thing all about at the end of the game, It was all a bit Michael Jacksonesk when he was in the video Earth Song.

That was in tribute to Holocaust Day, I think. His grandfather was killed by the Nazis and his father buried him with his own hands. While the Chelsea players are celebrating today, Avram is flying to Auschwitz to deliver an address.

The more I hear about Avram, the more I respect him.
 
Frank Lampard has never been the most popular of footballers, certainly not with fans of other clubs, but you'd have to have a heart of stone not to stand up and applaud his astonishing composure after a emotional night at Stamford Bridge.

That will be me then!
Totally overstaged, and confirms what a **** that man truly is.
 
That was in tribute to Holocaust Day, I think. His grandfather was killed by the Nazis and his father buried him with his own hands. While the Chelsea players are celebrating today, Avram is flying to Auschwitz to deliver an address.

The more I hear about Avram, the more I respect him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/04/29/sfnche129.xml

you're right... huge amount of respect for the guy, as he and frank lampard have shown, there are more important things in life than football
 
That will be me then!
Totally overstaged, and confirms what a **** that man truly is.

As much as I loathe Fat Frank and think he's the single most overrated, overpriced primadonna in football today, you have to admit it took a tremendous amount of courage to not only play, but to snatch the ball from Ballack, who scored the penalty at the weekend, and slot the ball cooly home.


Aside from that, i'm now 100% sure that John Terry is on a one man mission to become the most detestable c*nt in Football. Everytime I watch Chelsea, i'm confident that he won't do anything to increase my hatred, but somehow he manages it.
 
My Achilles heel has always been moments of great sporting bravery, they do for me every time. I found myself welling up when West Bromwich Albion pulled off a remarkable last day escape in 2005

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That was in tribute to Holocaust Day, I think. His grandfather was killed by the Nazis and his father buried him with his own hands. While the Chelsea players are celebrating today, Avram is flying to Auschwitz to deliver an address.

The more I hear about Avram, the more I respect him.

Fair comment......cheers for the informed post mate
 
As much as I loathe Fat Frank and think he's the single most overrated, overpriced primadonna in football today, you have to admit it took a tremendous amount of courage to not only play, but to snatch the ball from Ballack, who scored the penalty at the weekend, and slot the ball cooly home.


Aside from that, i'm now 100% sure that John Terry is on a one man mission to become the most detestable c*nt in Football. Everytime I watch Chelsea, i'm confident that he won't do anything to increase my hatred, but somehow he manages it.

100% agree mate......the guys has just lost his mum FFS, football aside, you have to respect the guy for his courage.
 
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Unfortunately Naps, as you well know, that is exactly what I look like. I went to White Hart Lane a couple of weeks ago and a load of fans thought they were about to sign me. It's always nice to know, that whenever a picture of Man Utd winning the European Cup in 1999 is printed, I'm there on the front row.
 
Unfortunately Naps, as you well know, that is exactly what I look like. I went to White Hart Lane a couple of weeks ago and a load of fans thought they were about to sign me. It's always nice to know, that whenever a picture of Man Utd winning the European Cup in 1999 is printed, I'm there on the front row.

Ross Noble played for Man U and West Brom? I just thought he was famous for rambling on about monkeys in a Geordie accent...

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That was in tribute to Holocaust Day, I think. His grandfather was killed by the Nazis and his father buried him with his own hands. While the Chelsea players are celebrating today, Avram is flying to Auschwitz to deliver an address.

The more I hear about Avram, the more I respect him.

Sorry to go miles off topic, but respect to Napster and Pubey for mentioning this. It's a massively emotional day for Jewish people, especially in Europe, and when I saw Avram crumple to his knees, the tears I had been choking back over Lampard (I am an emotional basketcase at the moment) came flooding out. My father and I are going to Auschwitz for the second time this summer, we go to pay tribute to family members who died there and to pray for there never being a repeat. It is a nerve jangling experience for Jew and Gentile.
 
Am absolutely delighted for Avram Grant. Was working last night, so waited for the highlights afterwards without hearing the scoreline before - and all i could say was wow.

I absolutely detest Chelsea and Liverpool - but Grant gets way to much stick for my liking, so was hoping Chelsea won. Seeing him fall to his knees was a great moment, i think he finally felt vindicated in his work, and fair play to him he deserves to be travelling to Moscow for the final.

Also i'd like to add that the Essien goal that was ruled out for offside (4 Chelsea players apparently interfering with play) was such a load of bollox...I could not believe it was disallowed. I thought Pepe Reina had a good enough view of the shot - terrible call IMO - but at least it didnt cost them the match.
 
Sorry to go miles off topic, but respect to Napster and Pubey for mentioning this. It's a massively emotional day for Jewish people, especially in Europe, and when I saw Avram crumple to his knees, the tears I had been choking back over Lampard (I am an emotional basketcase at the moment) came flooding out. My father and I are going to Auschwitz for the second time this summer, we go to pay tribute to family members who died there and to pray for there never being a repeat. It is a nerve jangling experience for Jew and Gentile.

having been to auschwitz myself, huge respect for anyone who can manage to go back for a second time... i can't describe the emotions i felt when i went there, it was a lifechanging experience for me but i don't think i could face going back there
 
having been to auschwitz myself, huge respect for anyone who can manage to go back for a second time... i can't describe the emotions i felt when i went there, it was a lifechanging experience for me but i don't think i could face going back there

I'm not sure if I can mate, would prefer Bognor any day of the week. But we are being joined by my daughter this time, and I need to be with her for this.
 
having been to auschwitz myself, huge respect for anyone who can manage to go back for a second time... i can't describe the emotions i felt when i went there, it was a lifechanging experience for me but i don't think i could face going back there

I might be a bit cold-hearted, but Auschwitz didn't have much of an impact on me. I'd visited the Killing Fields in Cambodia a few years earlier, and that had a far greater impact on me. Maybe that took the edge of it for me. That was a much more raw experience, which made Auschwitz seem almost commercialised in comparison. Tour groups traipsing round Auschwitz, particularly those waving the Israeli flag and wailing, took the edge off it for me. I suppose if I'd lost grandparents or great-grandparents it would have been more personal, as it was I didn't feel anything near their grief.

I found walking round the Killing Fields by myself, with only a handful of others there, a much more depressing place. The atmosphere was no doubt enhanced by the apocalyptic downpour, but also by the way the place had literally been left untouched. I know Auschwitz has largely been left unaltered, but the pits with bits of crushed bone and scraps of fabric still poking out of the mud, the stuka full of skulls were left to speak for themselves in an unadulterated statement of the evil humanity is capable of. In contrast I thought the signs and displays at Auschwitz diluted the message and were too preachy/political, rather than letting the facts speak for themselves and people drawing their own conclusions.
 
I might be a bit cold-hearted, but Auschwitz didn't have much of an impact on me. I'd visited the Killing Fields in Cambodia a few years earlier, and that had a far greater impact on me. Maybe that took the edge of it for me. That was a much more raw experience, which made Auschwitz seem almost commercialised in comparison. Tour groups traipsing round Auschwitz, particularly those waving the Israeli flag and wailing, took the edge off it for me. I suppose if I'd lost grandparents or great-grandparents it would have been more personal, as it was I didn't feel anything near their grief.

I found walking round the Killing Fields by myself, with only a handful of others there, a much more depressing place. The atmosphere was no doubt enhanced by the apocalyptic downpour, but also by the way the place had literally been left untouched. I know Auschwitz has largely been left unaltered, but the pits with bits of crushed bone and scraps of fabric still poking out of the mud, the stuka full of skulls were left to speak for themselves in an unadulterated statement of the evil humanity is capable of. In contrast I thought the signs and displays at Auschwitz diluted the message and were too preachy/political, rather than letting the facts speak for themselves and people drawing their own conclusions.

I agree 100%. The Killing Fields is a shattering experience.
 
That will be me then!
Totally overstaged, and confirms what a **** that man truly is.

I think that is very harsh indeed. What is it about him that makes him such a **** in your eyes Rich?

By the way, even forgetting the penalty, I thought he played brilliantly last night.
 
I think that is very harsh indeed. What is it about him that makes him such a **** in your eyes Rich?

By the way, even forgetting the penalty, I thought he played brilliantly last night.

He completed 75% of his passes, the most completed passes of any Chelsea player last night and won 50% of his challenges.

Played a blinder IMO
 
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