Clarke, who are you kidding?

[EastStandBlue]

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No, Peter, it's just about time you stopped pushing people in the f*cking box giving away stupid penalty's mate...

 

[sufcalways]

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No, Peter, it's just about time you stopped pushing people in the f*cking box giving away stupid penalty's mate...

I wasn't there, and on the highlights it didn't look like a penalty to me. Only a quick glimpse though :unsure:

 

[Pubey]

yeah it didn't look like a clear foul, just that clarke was close up behind and then the striker went down. the problem is that sometimes they are given and sometimes they arent, clarke isn't known for being particularly gentle in the box (along with barrett), and so we're going to give things away.

 

[Ljubljana Branch]

Agree completely with the first post. Clarke makes up for his lack of strength with his arms (which you can't do Peter!). Surprised he doesn't give more away to be honest....

 

[ldnfatso]

I was there and Clarke can have no arguaments!

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

just looked at the highlights. Wonderful, wonderful goal from Freedman.TBH the type of player who people will want to see and pay money just to watch. Clarke's push totally unnecessary Why do players do this? No danger, a long hopeful punt to no one in particular, away from home with a partisan crowed behind the goal. Well they say footballers are thick.

 

[Suffolk Blue]

From where we were seated it looked nailed-on. Both Clarke's hands made contact with the back of the attacker, and the guy went over. There's no way anyone other than those two could tell how much force was in the shove; I'd have given it!

I personally get tired of the wrestling matches that seem to go on in the box. Pushing and shoving, and shirt-pulling seem to be an accepted part of the game; perhaps if refs were more consistent in penalising it then we'd see it stop.

 

[steveo]

Why do players do this?

Thats a bit harsh on players.

The post from the Carlisle fan said he thought our defender must be stupid, just barging someone in the back like that.

Clarke has been doing this for ages and often getting away with it. I find it particularly annoying when he does it in our opponents box when we have a corner so we just end any chance of scoring by conceding a free kick.

 

[Boreham Shrimper]

From where we were seated it looked nailed-on. Both Clarke's hands made contact with the back of the attacker, and the guy went over. There's no way anyone other than those two could tell how much force was in the shove; I'd have given it!

I personally get tired of the wrestling matches that seem to go on in the box. Pushing and shoving, and shirt-pulling seem to be an accepted part of the game; perhaps if refs were more consistent in penalising it then we'd see it stop.

That, I think is the crux of the argument. We see this happen time and time again and it does not get penalised anywhere near enough. Obviously it can be difficult to spot the difference between simulation on the part of an attacking player and a genuine foul but I've lost track of the number of times I've seen Barney fouled in a similar manner and nothing has been given. Consistency of decision making by referees is key to increasing respect towards the officials in my opinion.

I've always thought Clarkey was treading a dangerous path though and it was only a matter of time before he was picked up on it so he really only has himself to blame.

 

[Mick]

That, I think is the crux of the argument. We see this happen time and time again and it does not get penalised anywhere near enough. Obviously it can be difficult to spot the difference between simulation on the part of an attacking player and a genuine foul but I've lost track of the number of times I've seen Barney fouled in a similar manner and nothing has been given. Consistency of decision making by referees is key to increasing respect towards the officials in my opinion.

I've always thought Clarkey was treading a dangerous path though and it was only a matter of time before he was picked up on it so he really only has himself to blame.

Watch Barney closely next time he goes up with a defender. He has this knack of actually getting his arms round behind the defender who is behind him. Referees who take up good positions often spot this which is why apparent fouls on Barney are often not given or given the other way.

 

[Pubey]

Watch Barney closely next time he goes up with a defender. He has this knack of actually getting his arms round behind the defender who is behind him. Referees who take up good positions often spot this which is why apparent fouls on Barney are often not given or given the other way.

true, strikers often clamp their arms over the arms of the defender which can help draw a foul

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Having been away for a couple of weeks, I've just caught up with the goals from the away games, and a lot of our problems have stemmed from crosses coming into the box far too easily. This has always been a major failing of Francis, and is something that needs to be addressed sharpish, otherwise we are going to continue to concede the goals that we have so far this season. Having said that, if we can sort this problem out, then I can see us being OK, as no side has really opened us up on a regular basis.

 

[chapperzUK]

I didn't go to the game. Anyone link me to the highlights?

 

[SUFC_Al]

All League 1 Highlights

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[chapperzUK]

All League 1 Highlights

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Thank you. It did look like he had his hands on him but didn't look like anything. The player who went down didn't really complain.

 

[maninasuitcase]

I see Clarke used the old "If you start giving penalties for that then you're going to end up having four or five in every game" excuse. If it stops defenders pushing, holding and pulling attackers in the box then I'm all for it.

 

[sufcintheprem]

Didn't look much like a pen to me

 

[Davro]

Basically, when i am playing, i am not even allowed to place a hand on there shoulder, its ridiculous, but that did look like a penalty to me, much as i dont want to admit it

 

[maninasuitcase]

Basically, when i am playing, i am not even allowed to place a hand on there shoulder, its ridiculous, but that did look like a penalty to me, much as i dont want to admit it

That's right, why on earth would you want to put your hand on another players shoulder other than to stop him from getting the ball?

 

[Shrimp Curry]

I am pleased that people are finally seeing Clarke for the liability that he is, lets just hope its not too long before Tilson comes to his senses and gets someone else in.