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Coronavirus (Non-Politics)

Benfleet A1

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If you have planned a social gathering that, in your opinion, is worth breaking the rules for. Then don't hold it in your house or garden and risk a fine or arrest. Catch a train to London, meet your family and spend the day or the evening on the Circle line.....Its legal and much safer than your back garden.
I miss the old circle line parties.
 

Ricey

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My household is 6 of us so that now means we cannot see any of our parents, the kids can now once again no longer see their grandparents. Ok we’ve done it before and it was a struggle but with my father in law being diagnosed with terminal cancer and we aren’t sure how long he has left this is a huge blow for us! We stuck to the rules last time and will go and see him on Saturday, who knows when we will be able to see him again if at all!
 

GNH

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My household is 6 of us so that now means we cannot see any of our parents, the kids can now once again no longer see their grandparents. Ok we’ve done it before and it was a struggle but with my father in law being diagnosed with terminal cancer and we aren’t sure how long he has left this is a huge blow for us! We stuck to the rules last time and will go and see him on Saturday, who knows when we will be able to see him again if at all!

Awful situation for you to be in.

I know you will do what you think is best but i know what i would do in that situation, to hell with the rule

I hope it works out for you
 

Ricey

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Awful situation for you to be in.

I know you will do what you think is best but i know what i would do in that situation, to hell with the rule

I hope it works out for you
We will take each day as it comes. He’s had a good week, I took him to the driving range and he seems better but the last weeks before he was really bad. He’s due back on chemo soon so I expect a drop ahead. Since lockdown was eased we’ve always been careful, met in the garden and kept our distance. We aren’t stupid with it and if we did decide to break the rules we wouldn’t be stupid with it then either.

Its a horrible situation on top of an already horrible situation and he’s not my dad so **** knows how my wife copes so well.
 

Chrisb

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Luckily we had our mums birthday bash in the garden on Sunday. She cant recognise everyone anymore and this will be the last one. She will be in home very soon. If this rule had been bought in last week I would have carried on as planned. Not a chance I would have cancelled.

There were only about 20 of us and they golden oldies were talking about the time they were evacuated from London. Monday was the 80th anniversary of the start of the blitz. All of them came back early as they would either survive and see victory or die as a family.....Worth remembering when you see that grizzling 23 year old teacher claiming he is going to die.
I'm glad you got to do this - had a similar gathering some years back for my Mum.
 

Tinks

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We will take each day as it comes. He’s had a good week, I took him to the driving range and he seems better but the last weeks before he was really bad. He’s due back on chemo soon so I expect a drop ahead. Since lockdown was eased we’ve always been careful, met in the garden and kept our distance. We aren’t stupid with it and if we did decide to break the rules we wouldn’t be stupid with it then either.

Its a horrible situation on top of an already horrible situation and he’s not my dad so **** knows how my wife copes so well.
How sad for you all and if I was in the same situation I think I too would still try and visit.
 

GBJ

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If you have planned a social gathering that, in your opinion, is worth breaking the rules for. Then don't hold it in your house or garden and risk a fine or arrest. Catch a train to London, meet your family and spend the day or the evening on the Circle line.....Its legal and much safer than your back garden.
My preferred venue will likely be a church.

Afterall, they give out free booze, so I’m told.
 

Pubey

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My household is 6 of us so that now means we cannot see any of our parents, the kids can now once again no longer see their grandparents. Ok we’ve done it before and it was a struggle but with my father in law being diagnosed with terminal cancer and we aren’t sure how long he has left this is a huge blow for us! We stuck to the rules last time and will go and see him on Saturday, who knows when we will be able to see him again if at all!
Terminal illness is one of the reasons you can be exempt from the guidelines, so do what you need to do.
 

Leigh_Seasider

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6 of us went into their pub in West St, Brighton last Weds. Guy on the door only asked one of us to fill out a form.
At the Elms, they weren’t even doing that. Think they had something on the bar you were meant to scan and do it online but nobody made sure you did it. The Broker were asking at the door as were the Broadway so I’m told. Not sure about any others.
 

THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK

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At the Elms, they weren’t even doing that. Think they had something on the bar you were meant to scan and do it online but nobody made sure you did it. The Broker were asking at the door as were the Broadway so I’m told. Not sure about any others.
The Elms is special.
 

pottster

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This wont end well with the twenty something's, they'll be paying for the cost of this lockdown for the next twenty years. Probably saddled with a large uni debt, cant get a job, and no chance of owning a house. And now they cant socialise with their mates. It sounds like we are going back to the eighties!!!!
 

MattE

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The whole narrative has now changed. Just watched the briefing and not one mention of hospitalisations or deaths. All about increasing case numbers. We'll have to wait and see on the numbers but there doesn't seem to be an uptick on that yet
Hospitalisations and deaths are a lagging indicator. So far I think the impact on NHS is low as it's the younger generations that are getting it - if it starts spreading in the older generations again then the health services will struggle
 

rigsby

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This wont end well with the twenty something's, they'll be paying for the cost of this lockdown for the next twenty years. Probably saddled with a large uni debt, cant get a job, and no chance of owning a house. And now they cant socialise with their mates. It sounds like we are going back to the eighties!!!!
Buying houses in Southend for less than £50,000 and earning £200 a day with your trowel,.... TOTS in an XR3 and every Essex girl in little white boots.....Yes please.

Friday night football, the North bank.....Todays young lads aren't allowed to even be young lads.......Before anyone says anything the girls were far happier back then as well :Winking:
 

Massimo Giovanni

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Hospitalisations and deaths are a lagging indicator. So far I think the impact on NHS is low as it's the younger generations that are getting it - if it starts spreading in the older generations again then the health services will struggle
Yes, and I am not wanting to start a politics debate; so as the UK is making regional and sub regional/city restrictions, and at the same time pressing education and employment towards normality, would it not be possible to stress the important wash,mask, distance rules and apply an age or infirmity segregation policy of lockdown?
The idea of 6 as a group maxim and Marshall's is, imo, and from this thread, illogical and unworkable/unenforcable.
 

MattE

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Yes, and I am not wanting to start a politics debate; so as the UK is making regional and sub regional/city restrictions, and at the same time pressing education and employment towards normality, would it not be possible to stress the important wash,mask, distance rules and apply an age or infirmity segregation policy of lockdown?
The idea of 6 as a group maxim and Marshall's is, imo, and from this thread, illogical and unworkable/unenforcable.
I partially agree - the marshalls were useless last time - but I guess it gives some employment to people.

I can see some logic in the six people from 2 households rule. People are less aware, and lower thier guard, when in the company of friends and family compared to in the presence of strangers. I've been to one restaurant for lunch since lockdown - it was comical. I saw 2 lots of customers tread carefully around tables of strangers and then greet their friends with handshakes, kisses on cheek and hugs.
 

wakes123

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I started this thread and at the start I was very cautious and very worried about this virus.

My attitude has definitely changed in the last few months. We will get to a point where the fear of this virus and the knock on from that (economic impact, psychological impact, other illness impact etc) will far outweigh the damage of the virus itself.

My personal opinion is you need to give everyone freedom here and explain to the public clearly that this affects certain people (elderly, underlying health conditions) a lot more than others so suggest they take precautions. However, it can affect other people badly as well so if you go meet 10 mates down the park you do so at your own risk. To have these blanket bans across the whole country is ridiculous.
 

Massimo Giovanni

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I am mainly with your thinking wakes. People have choices and largely it is up to them
Spell the dangers and the risks.
I expect most will keep the precautions and also support precautions taken by businesses and organisation, for example the visiting g at care homes.
Those that want to go to a pub full of 100, crammed like sardines etc, well it is their choice.
And it will be my choice to avoid them.
Simplistic put I know.
 

MattE

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I am mainly with your thinking wakes. People have choices and largely it is up to them
Spell the dangers and the risks.
I expect most will keep the precautions and also support precautions taken by businesses and organisation, for example the visiting g at care homes.
Those that want to go to a pub full of 100, crammed like sardines etc, well it is their choice.
And it will be my choice to avoid them.
Simplistic put I know.
But how will you avoid them? It's not enough to just not be in the pub with them. How will you know they're not on the train/bus with you, in a shop, in the office etc etc.
 

Massimo Giovanni

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But how will you avoid them? It's not enough to just not be in the pub with them. How will you know they're not on the train/bus with you, in a shop, in the office etc etc.
It is likely impossible to be covid secure, but I will keep my hands off surfaces, I will wash them regularly and sanitize, I wear a mask anywhere near an unavoidable grouping (in or out doors).
Individuals can only do so much, and hope for the best.

Plus I do not smoke, eat carefully, exercise regularly and keep my bmi between 20 and 23.
 
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