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If there was something organised so that as fans and a mass we could show our displeasure at how Southend United has been dragged through the **** then I'd gladly participate. I won't however join in with pointless chanting aimed at individuals as that's not in my character. If people choose to do it that way, as we've already seen, then that's their prerogative. I've kept quiet throughout this whole saga as at times i've been bewildered by what's going on and the volume of information that goes along with it.

My season card was renewed early and, unlike some others, my DD has been going out steadily and I'll keep paying it as I'm just desperate to watch football on a Saturday afternoon (Friday night) again.

mmmm.... you are in a bit of a catch 22 there, although you're physical non attendance on said date would be support enough, whilst you would lose your fee for that match

I agree that the protests can become a bit mob rulish hence my statement that one would not even be required if everyone simply did not turn up

re saturday afternoon footie, there's tonnes of Ryman football around locally that is equally amusing....sorry....entertaining, which is much more socially fulfilling with local players and fans doing alot of the work at the club...just a thought
 
I know I'd lose my match fee for that day, £13.26, but for me that's a small price to pay for a potentially more important message to the club hierarchy.

Yeah there are always other options but I don't feel motivated to be going to Thurrock vs SomeTeamName, occasionally maybe but not every week!
 
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Just got in, but feel I should reply as I've been referenced by name.

So let me get this right... Because of your distain for Ron Martin, you suggest nobody turns up and pays any money to get in?

Which would probably in effect kill the club. You'd be happy to be party to the 'protest' that effectively buries sufc and kills the club you love, just to prove a point and you'd be happy to ground share with southend manor and you think people would 'flock' to watch football at that level just because it bears the name of 'southend'?

I doubt anyone, even Ron arse kissers (I quote) like me, are 'euphoric' with the current situation as you state. It's more a case of hope and wind of change.

The club is still in dire straits, but we cannot effect that. If you stay away and the club goes under Ron can say 'it wasn't my fault, the clubs own fans turned their back on the club'. Protest till you're blue in the face, Ron won't leave unless someone can offer him multiple millions so he can clear the debts of his companies.

Like it or not, he has propped the club up in one shape or another. I'm not condoning his actions at all, saying we're ****ed with him and we're ****ed without him. Let's just hope he sorts himself out for the good of the club - all we can do as fans is ensure we give support to what we can and that's the 11 that pull on the shirt and run the football side of things.

Each to their own though and if people want to make a stand and stay away, then great, do that. You'll probably be back one day though and the club will still be here waiting for you.
 
So who have you lined up to replace Ron. Who, after your protest, is putting the money up if Ron has had enough? Who is going to buy the land off Ron for the new ground, or who is going to buy Sainsbury's out of Roots Hall?
 
If on the 2nd August everything goes tits up and we arent out of embargo and are put into administration and Sturrock and the new players all leave Ill be behind whatever protests follow.

Until that point Im going to enjoy the new optimism on the pitch and give RM the chance to resolve the issues.

Protesting will not make RM leave, he is tied to this club financially and its impossible for him to walk out even if he wanted to.

Id love the club to be owned by people with money but he isnt going to leave unless the consortium offer far more money than they are prepared to so for now its in his hands.

If he fails then the consortium are there to pick up the pieces.

We will see what happens in 9 days....
 
I think the pro-Ron brigade, the believers, the apologists, should take a chill pill for a couple of weeks.

That makes no sense?! Surely it's the people wanting to protest that need to see calm and await the outcome of the court hearing. No matter how much you want to protest, nothing is going to change in the next week or so is it?
 
So who have you lined up to replace Ron. Who, after your protest, is putting the money up if Ron has had enough? Who is going to buy the land off Ron for the new ground, or who is going to buy Sainsbury's out of Roots Hall?

A fine question that stumps all the protesters.

May I suggest;

1) 'The Consortium' and their excellent manifesto for a better future.

2) Grrrrrrrrr! Anyone but that stinking Ron Martin chap!

3) My Nan

4) Arab billionaire with lifelong love of south Essex

5) Jesus

6) popular chat show host, Jeremy Vine.

7) the beautiful die hard fans who will stump up millions from their own personal war chests, seeing as Ron obviously doesn't have the minerals that they do.

Take your pick, so many options out there.
 
Posters on this forum such as mcnasty & pboreham have questioned what a protest against ron will achieve & questioned the commitment of those participating, whilst also taking enjoyment from lampooning poor jack in the process.


Thanks for mentioning me by name, however, whilst I am fortunate to own this site I will allow people to post their opinions unless they are libellous and several of poor jack's posts have been pulled to save him being sued. I will also post my own opinions and thoughts, but I do feel special being mentioned.

Please quote posts that I have made questioning the commitment of protesters as I was one tying a scarf to the gates on the original protest when the banners were tied to the gates prior to people going to Martin's house. If I was so anti-protest I wouldn't have bothered.
 
Barry Corr career history:
Career History: Club Season Comp. Apps
(as sub) Goals Exeter City 2009 - 10League 17 (17) 3 FA Cup 2 (0) 3 Swindon Town 2008 - 09League 2 (9) 2 FA Cup 0 (1) 0 Swindon Town 2007 - 08League 7 (10) 5 FA Cup 2 (1) 0 Swindon Town 2006 - 07League 8 (0) 3 Bristol City 2006 - 07League 1 (2) 0 Sheffield Wed 2006 - 07League 0 (1) 0 Sheffield Wed 2005 - 06League 7 (9) 0 FA Cup 1 (0) 0 League Cup 1 (0) 0 Sheffield Wed 2005 - 99League 7 (9) 0 FA Cup 1 (0) 0 League Cup 1 (0) 0
source, sufc website

FACT over fiction...




That's so confusing brigadista.
What's the goals and what's the appearances?
 
That's so confusing brigadista.
What's the goals and what's the appearances?

Not many and quite a few.

Not that it matters hugely. England can't find a targetman who wins header, holds the ball up and scores goals so quite why people expect Southend to do so escapes me.
 
Posters on this forum such as mcnasty & pboreham have questioned what a protest against ron will achieve & questioned the commitment of those participating, whilst also taking enjoyment from lampooning poor jack in the process. I don't claim to have the right view, but so far within those threads i don't feel anyone has sufficiently put in words what can be achieved and why they are taking such action. Ultimately i have detested ron's presence from day 1,it was apparent that he had asset stripped the club & paid next to nothing acquire a controlling stake in the club that meant he held all the cards. With him being a property developer it was very quick to see that southend would not remain on the rich residential Roots Hall site for long........and so in my mind Ron's priorities were set. His behaviour was further questionable when it took a fans & echo campaign to get tilly installed and ron give up his fantasy over stan (chasing the limelight rather than the fans wishes). Around the same time was when he also began (his now ever familiar to most shrimpers) end of match pitch tour after a battling away 0-0 draw with mansfield which left me thinking "what is this moron doing? We're applauding the players not Ron the Messiah". There are 92 league clubs and only between 5-10% of those clubs can achieve "success" within any given season,which means there's going to be alot of fans alot of the time watching unsuccessful teams.for that reason i do not hand my money over at the gate just wanting to watch my team win,no,a football club is about the fans and the town.so whilst i want to see the lads giving 100% i also attend to sing them on,sing about my town,the history of the team & socialise with my fellow essex boys & girls-there is no place for a profiteering, megalomaniac in something that should belong to the fans.like most on this forum i would follow southend regardless,so would gladly see the club go into admin and play in the senior league if it meant that it was run in the interests of the fans and not one man's pocket.i have no desire for a new souless plastic shell of a new stadium,miles from town,no decent transport links,void of any real pubs or atmosphere and to saddle the club with masses of debt it cannot maintain.Some small improvements at the Hall would freshen the place up but the most pressing priority should be the return of the fans to their natural home-the North Bank, which would cost a damn sight less.The whole tilson & brush debacle still sickens me...those two gave us arguably the best years we have seen and yet suddenly they are not good enough and are disgarded as people suddenly rush to eulogise about sturrock,even apologising for him signing his son?!!!! I think we all know how that one will turn out...most comments have pointed to players who 'want to play for the club'-I'm sorry but how can this bunch of mercenaries, who are all sturrocks ex players and want to play for HIM and not Southend, ever be compared or held above Barrett or McCormack? To question their loyalty and commitment to this club is blaspheme, Ron should be charged with high treason not acknowledged at a decision well made over their departure.
Writing letter's, or becoming a shareholder are naive alternative
suggestions at best...plenty of letters have been written: to the club, the echo, the YA and to club individuals, with no result. "Become a shareholder" is just laughable, the shares are not a liquid stock easily purchased, and I think one may forget that Ron and his myriad of companies control own over 76% of the club's shares, rendering anyone else's holding useless when it came to a vote on anything. Unless the club go and issue shares tomorrow Ron cannot be budged, but he's not going to make a serious rights issue that would jeopardise his throttle on the club is he?....come on now, please.
Direct action i
s the only tool and card left for the fans to play. To deny that paying for Monday's match (in hard cash ONLY can one believe) is doing anything other than propping up the ailing dictator is either delirious, ignorance, or plain apathy. There seem to be numerous posters on this forum that have to wash sand out of the hair, ears and eyes on a daily basis?!
If no-one turned up to the next home match then Ron would be completely
screwed and would have a completely insolvent business venture, sorry, club that he would have no choice but to bail. If that meant the club going under, then so be it, if Ron goes. Do AFC Wimbledon and FC United fans not have the great saturday afternoon's and are still going strong? of course they are....if southend went under and re-appeared say at a groundshare with southend manor in the senior league, we'd all be there in a flash.
The SUSCT hold the potential to be a cataly
st to lead a movement for fan ownership of the club and have huge influence and leverage to mount a boycott and subsequent campaign. I have put the point to the very honourable mr.fitzgerald on a number of occassions. To worry about offending Ron for fear of losing the prospect (and it's only just that) of a seat on Ron's board (not southend's) is ludicrous. For the reasons given above re share holdings the seat would be meaningless and another class stroke in Ron keeping his enemies close.
Not to mention the fact that the SUSCT have the power to now bring him to heel thank
s to the 60k loan......by using option 5 in the members vote (to sue Ron as personal guarantor) it would not even necessarily bring the club down - just Ron might have to part with his own cash for a change and live up to his promises for a change. On top of a boycott this would send him the clearest message to get the hell out of our club and town.

Every fan ha
s the power, and that power is that cash you hand over to Ron fortnightly. So those who say it is pointless should really stop and think what could actually be achieved by a boycott and not the narrow retorts posted on other threads but the positives that could come from such events.

There you go, you have you an
swers as to what people feel can be achieved and why from a boycott or protest. I shall not now engage in tittle tattle exchanges of character assassination or pointless snipes about grammar or spelling.

All I will
say is that I will never set foot in Roots Hall as long as Ron has his greedy hands on the club, and I will certainly be at Aldershot cheering the boys on for 90 minutes. A concept that is alien to those who claim the protesters are not real fans, as in fact they are generally the most vocal support at southend and really understand the term "backing your team".

A superb post written by a real fan.
 
This isn't a slight on brigadista at all, but I feel the essence of the original post is endemic of ShrimperZone in relation to Ron Martin and the situation we find ourselves in at the moment. There's no middle ground, no shade of grey... You're either a "true supporter" and want Martin Out, or you don't see any other option and are labelled an armchair fan/glory supporter/lazy (delete as applicable).

I don't think you'll find a single fan here who supports RM at the moment or is distinctly positive about the parlous state of the club's finances. What you will find, however, is people with divided opinions about what our options are. Some people want the consortium in despite no evidence of them being able to mount a definitive challenge because of RM's apparent power of veto in the event of administration, some people want RM out and don't care who else comes in, despite him and his 29 companies holding the cards whilst others are prepared to wait and see what happens with Sainsburys before acting rash.

There are, of course, people who flirt between the three groups and live within the areas of grey indecision, but one thing's for sure, They all support the club and I don't think anybody is in the position to accuse anyone of supporting a club more or less than themselves. People show their support and formulate their opinions in their own way.


As for Jack, he isn't castigated for his opinions or actions, he's castigated for the manner in which he expresses them on the board. Just this week, he's posted three serious accusations... All of which are potentially libellous.
 
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My post was aimed at 2 kind of people of here, those poking fun at fans who wish to protest/boycott and those who are too apathetic. Having known you for all of one post I'd hate to judge, but you seem to fall into the second category.......so to elaborate:-

Not turning up requires no effort or cost to anyone - if it only happened for one match Ron would be in total disarray. There need not even be a protest, just one person turn up for the press to announce why the fans have boycotted the match - the old cliche "actions speak louder than words" (i.e. a protest) would more than suffice here. Hell those that feel that they couldn't give up one match at the Hall for the sake of ridding us of Ron, could surely miss the one decisive match. And there's still the away games that are nearly always more enjoyable anyway.

Like I say the control is in all of our pockets, we just need to exercise that collectively.

"together the Ants will conquer the peculiar little grey chap with a penchant for p*ssing people off" - or the Elephant as more commonly accepted

I wouldn't describe myself as apathetic, more that I understand the fact that RM isn't going anywhere, and by boycotting games all you do is damage the clubs finances further.
 
This isn't a slight on brigadista at all, but I feel the essence of the original post is endemic of ShrimperZone in relation to Ron Martin and the situation we find ourselves in at the moment. There's no middle ground, no shade of grey... You're either a "true supporter" and want Martin Out, or you don't see any other option and are labelled an armchair fan/glory supporter/lazy (delete as applicable).

That's funny because in the past 3 weeks I've obviously been castigated for being in the Martin Out camp but also criticised for being a lazy, armchair supporter not obviously taking into account my exiled status.
 
That's funny because in the past 3 weeks I've obviously been castigated for being in the Martin Out camp but also criticised for being a lazy, armchair supporter not obviously taking into account my exiled status.

Like Howard Devoto once said, "Shot by both sides ... we must have come to a different understanding."
 
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