Female Police Officer shot dead

[Benfleetshrimp]

A female police officer was shot dead today while responding to a report of a robbery at a shop in Bradford city centre, police sources said.
A second female officer was also shot. West Yorkshire police could not immediately provide further details.

One unconfirmed report on Sky News said the two officers were both women in their early 20s.

At the scene, armed officers were standing guard close to the office of a taxi company in Morley Street.

Many surrounding roads were closed off to the public, and officers were directing people away from the area.

Dozens of other officers were patrolling the cordoned-off area and numerous police vehicles were at the scene.

Tom McGhie, chairman of West Yorkshire police federation, confirmed two officers had been shot.

"Two officers have been shot while responding to an armed robbery that was on-going in Bradford this afternoon," he said.

A spokeswoman for West Yorkshire police said: "A number of roads in the Bradford city centre area have been closed and we are asking people to avoid the area where possible."

 

[* ORM *]

Just seen this on the news BS and it sounds like she didn't have a chance.

b******s. Point edited because I know what I meant to say but it came out all wrong and I'm too tired.

 

[TerryintheWest]

sad news

capital punishment anyone?

 

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (TerryintheWest @ Nov. 18 2005,23:36)]sad news

capital punishment anyone?

Nope, and I'm slightly disturbed by the knee jerk suggestion that all police officers should use firearms. We have enough problems without resorting to US tactics, which don't work either.

 

[SUFCFARAWAY]

 

[Guest]

Some people are just scum.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (TerryintheWest @ Nov. 18 2005,23:36)]sad news

capital punishment anyone?

Nope. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Life imprisonment should mean life, though. They should all be put on an island in the Outer Hebrides, fill the sea with razor wire, and leave the f***ers there to rot.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 21 2005,11:02)]

Quote[/b] (TerryintheWest @ Nov. 18 2005,23:36)]sad news

capital punishment anyone?

Nope.  Two wrongs don't make a right.

Life imprisonment should mean life, though.  They should all be put on an island in the Outer Hebrides, fill the sea with razor wire, and leave the f***ers there to rot.

I'm not quite sure what the Outer Hebrides has down to house such scum.

However i do think that life imprisonment should mean exactly that, no parole or remission whatsoever. At the time of The Moors Murders trial the death penalty had just been taken off the statute book, and many people (me among them) thought both Brady and Hindley should hang.

Since i have found it very satisfying that Hindley has died while in custody and Brady will do so as well.

 

[Wessex Blue]

Terrible news this and my sympathies go out to this poor woman's family. However what bothers me when a copper gets shot is the suggestions that there should be a seperate scale of punishment, IE death penalty or life sentence with no appeal.

This should apply whoever has been murdered. One other observation, is it me or is the investigation after a police murder way in excess, in terms of manpower, profile & resources, of what you'd expect if an ordinary member of the public was killed?

 

[Benfleetshrimp]

Quote[/b] (Wessex Blue @ Nov. 21 2005,11:47)]Terrible news this and my sympathies go out to this poor woman's family. However what bothers me when a copper gets shot is the suggestions that there should be a seperate scale of punishment, IE death penalty or life sentence with no appeal.

This should apply whoever has been murdered. One other observation, is it me or is the investigation after a police murder way in excess, in terms of manpower, profile & resources, of what you'd expect if an ordinary member of the public was killed?

Our country has a largely unarmed Police Force. Only one in ten officers routinely carry firearms. There has to be a deterent to attacking an unarmed Police Officer.

Police Officers police with the consent of the public. They are expected to protect the public, attend some of the most horrific violent incidents and witness some things that no one should ever have to witness.

If the law cant protect these people then what chance do normal members of the public have?

There are vast differences between a domestic murder (which most murders in this country are) and hacking off a Policemans head during the Broadwater farm riots, Stabbing a Police officer as she enters a front door, an armed robber shooting a Police Officer in Clacton or indeed an armed robber shooting the Police woman in Bradford.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,11:27)]I'm not quite sure what the Outer Hebrides has down to house such scum.

Just trying to think of somewhere cold, barren, miserable and inhospitable... perhaps an island off the Falklands would be a better bet.

Matt

 

[canveyshrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 21 2005,13:15)]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,11:27)]I'm not quite sure what the Outer Hebrides has down to house such scum.

Just trying to think of somewhere cold, barren, miserable and inhospitable...  perhaps an island off the Falklands would be a better bet.

Matt

Canvey??

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,13:20)]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 21 2005,13:15)]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,11:27)]I'm not quite sure what the Outer Hebrides has down to house such scum.

Just trying to think of somewhere cold, barren, miserable and inhospitable...  perhaps an island off the Falklands would be a better bet.

Matt

Canvey??

Slight problem, though - most of the inmates' relatives would be close enough to make frequent visits...

 

[canveyshrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 21 2005,13:23)]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,13:20)]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Nov. 21 2005,13:15)]

Quote[/b] (canveyshrimper @ Nov. 21 2005,11:27)]I'm not quite sure what the Outer Hebrides has down to house such scum.

Just trying to think of somewhere cold, barren, miserable and inhospitable...  perhaps an island off the Falklands would be a better bet.

Matt

Canvey??

Slight problem, though - most of the inmates' relatives would be close enough to make frequent visits...

Mmmm!! This is true, somewhere in the South Atlantic will do the trick then.

 

[Bluesmanager]

Quote[/b] (Whatever @ Nov. 20 2005,06:26)]Some people are just scum.

And a lot more besides, I'd like to see them go up to an officer and try to take them out bare handed.

It looks like the second officer is going to be OK, the tributes have been flooding in. Nice to see the (good) people of Bradford paying respects.

 

[Guest]

Quote[/b] (Bluesmanager @ Nov. 21 2005,20:51)]

Quote[/b] (Whatever @ Nov. 20 2005,06:26)]Some people are just scum.

And a lot more besides, I'd like to see them go up to an officer and try to take them out bare handed.

It looks like the second officer is going to be OK, the tributes have been flooding in. Nice to see the (good) people of Bradford paying respects.

But even then, 6 unarmed men up against 2 unarmed women.

this may come across as sexist in this PC age, but i feel the simple question to ask about all of this is why were 2 unarmed female officers, both relative newcomers to the force, sent to an armed robbery of a jewellers in Bradford?

Had they even sent 2 male officers, up against 6 armed robbers is a very tall order to restore any calm and avoid a severe attack. I know people are against the police being armed, but we do have specialist trained armed units, and it beggars belief for me that these very unfortunate 2 women were sent along to deal with such an obviously potential violent crime.

makes me think having seen some of the scenes in our away end of disrespect towards the police there, we often forget the very serious and traumatic nature of the job that the police do and the next time everyone shouts oink oink to an officer, maybe take a moment to think what these people have to go through just to try to protect us, and this is a case were a woman has paid the ultimate price.

 

[bring-back-N'Diaye]

Quote[/b] (Wessex Blue @ Nov. 21 2005,11:47)]Terrible news this and my sympathies go out to this poor woman's family. However what bothers me when a copper gets shot is the suggestions that there should be a seperate scale of punishment, IE death penalty or life sentence with no appeal.

This should apply whoever has been murdered. One other observation, is it me or is the investigation after a police murder way in excess, in terms of manpower, profile & resources, of what you'd expect if an ordinary member of the public was killed?

Spot on.

I think I deserve exactly the same protection under law as a police officer gets. If life imprisonment is good enough to protect me, its good enough to protect the police.

At the end of the day, a human life is worth the same whether they are a police officer or an innocent Brazilian electrician.

 

[Yellow Army]

i hate scum like that, who bloody invented the gun! idiots! i've had a gun pointed at me for ages in an armed robbery once, bloody scary stuff! I wish there was a way of getting guns of the streets, but everytime they try to make it better it just gets worse.
Werent the police going to be armed with stun guns?

My heart felt condonlences go out to the family of the WPC though, there was no need, i hope they catch the scum, and they get put away for life.

 

[southend4ever]

terrible... the husband has paid tribute and it is such a shame that they did not realise the seriousness of the call.

no one deserves to suffer such hurt. anyway, r.i.p.

 

[CANV]

they were responding to an alarm.. no one knew it was an armed robbery.. they respond to loads of alarams every day, they cant send an armed response unit to all of them..
i am against arming the police. nay more than they already are.. as a young brazillian lad might have told you , even the best trained people can fk up..
if you want guns off the street then bring back hanging for carrying a gun whilst attempting any criminal act.. any maybe a public birching for carrying a knife whilst attempting acriminal act, wether you use it or not..