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Emma Bunton's No. 1 stalker, Adam Barretts No. 1 f
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17,708
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Flying the flag for SUFC in Sai Kung, Hong Kong
Ron, pull the trigger now. We have a squad good enough to hold its own. We have a manager that for the best part of 9 months has got nothing consistently decent out of them. One game doesn't tell the truth, patterns don't lie. The referee, injuries, bad luck. Every team faces this. Phil's time is up. Thanks for the promotion Phil but football is progressive and we are in decline. If Bruce and Warnock can get jobs I'm sure you will.
 

Bay Shrimper

Newbie
Joined
Mar 8, 2011
Messages
50
I agree. Was so depressed watching it yesterday. First half was abysmal. We are in danger from any set piece and up the other end keep lumping high balls into the area with no one capable of winning a header. On this note perhaps we should wip the ball in with more venom and lower instead of lofting it as it is easy for decenders to deal with it. Second half was better as we looked more of a threat, without actually looking like scoring. Mooney at best a sub and Ranger and Cox must be starting pair up front. Desperately need a man in midfield who can create and take people on.
More importantly we need a new Manager NOW before it is too late. The morale of both Club and Fans must be rock bottom andd it will take time to build it up again.
Will always support the boys, as I have since 1974, through good times and bad, but cannot remember ever feeling this low.
 

Angell Delight

Life President
Joined
Oct 27, 2003
Messages
7,377
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Brentwood
Ron, pull the trigger now. We have a squad good enough to hold its own. We have a manager that for the best part of 9 months has got nothing consistently decent out of them. One game doesn't tell the truth, patterns don't lie. The referee, injuries, bad luck. Every team faces this. Phil's time is up. Thanks for the promotion Phil but football is progressive and we are in decline. If Bruce and Warnock can get jobs I'm sure you will.

Agree with everything you've written however I'd take Bruce or Warnock over Brown any day of the week. Warnock in particular seems to do a great job everywhere he goes.
 

Spaceman Spiff

Attila the Admin⭐
Staff member
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10,859
Location
Kennington, London
Ron, pull the trigger now. We have a squad good enough to hold its own. We have a manager that for the best part of 9 months has got nothing consistently decent out of them. One game doesn't tell the truth, patterns don't lie. The referee, injuries, bad luck. Every team faces this. Phil's time is up. Thanks for the promotion Phil but football is progressive and we are in decline. If Bruce and Warnock can get jobs I'm sure you will.

This. Just this. Sod off Phil for the love of all that's holy. You just don't have it in you (and whatever it is 'in his eyes' Ron, it's not a clue about anything useful or any passion for Southend).
 

Blues Heaven

Youth Team
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Aug 11, 2016
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182
Three out of the next four league games are away from home. A poor return from them and I would hope and expect RM to finally act decisively.
 

AndyT

Lord of the Reedy River
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Aug 7, 2010
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Location
Hockley
Two out of the next four are away, not three.

The two home games are against sides in our half of the table and at home, we haven't lost in five matches, winning four of them.

Granted, away we are getting spanked and yesterday sounds dreadful.
 

McNasty

Member
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Oct 23, 2003
Messages
16,197
Location
Otley, West Yorks
Dear Ron, please act as we are becoming a laughing stock.

A guy at work said to me the other day "You are a fan of Southend Nil, aren't you ?"

Hurt.
 

secondalibi

Coach
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Oct 20, 2006
Messages
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Location
Birmingham
I heard someone say recently that RM won't sack Brown because he wants us to get relegated. Sounds ridiculous, but I am starting to wonder.
 

THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK

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SHOEBURY
I heard someone say recently that RM won't sack Brown because he wants us to get relegated. Sounds ridiculous, but I am starting to wonder.


That is ridiculous. You don't bring in Cox, Ranger and Ferdinand if you aim for relegation. That's more like aiming for promotion, but the Manager can't do his job properly.
 

OldBlueLady

Junior Blues Coordinator⭐
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Benfleet
I heard someone say recently that RM won't sack Brown because he wants us to get relegated. Sounds ridiculous, but I am starting to wonder.

Absolutely not. Relegation would be enormously expensive and there is no way Ron can afford that.
 

Tommy2holes

Life President⭐
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Jan 21, 2007
Messages
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Maybe we should do what the Spanish supporters do when they want a manager out. All start waving a white hanky.

If we get beat by chesterfield this Saturday then expect venom toward the management.
 

Somerset Ex-TTB

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Yeovil
We have signed good players all that have played at a higher level, but with no clear plan on how to play them, what formation to play, and no thought on if the players we are signing fit into the system we currently have or want.

Lots of full backs (attacking ones), and lots of centre backs, which would indicate wing backs, but then the wrong sort of midfield players to play with wing backs. Also Cox and Ranger, would indicate 4-4-2, but we have no depth on the wing.

We have good players, the recruiting has been good, but it seems as if Brown is buying individuals, and not building a team.
 

Angell Delight

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Warnock is Manager of Cardiff, and Bruce is set to become Manager of Aston Villa.

Oh I know they are, I was just making the point that both would find it much easier to get jobs than Brown because of what they've achieved in the game. I was just responding to the "if Bruce and Warnock can get jobs I'm sure you will" quote. It made it sound as if neither should be worthy of a decent job in the game which in my opinion isn't the case, particularly Warnock.

Neither would ever consider an approach from Southend even if they were out of work.
 

secondalibi

Coach
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Messages
787
Location
Birmingham
We have signed good players all that have played at a higher level, but with no clear plan on how to play them, what formation to play, and no thought on if the players we are signing fit into the system we currently have or want.

Lots of full backs (attacking ones), and lots of centre backs, which would indicate wing backs, but then the wrong sort of midfield players to play with wing backs. Also Cox and Ranger, would indicate 4-4-2, but we have no depth on the wing.

We have good players, the recruiting has been good, but it seems as if Brown is buying individuals, and not building a team.

Absolutely spot on.

Brown has had so much time and yet he STILL doesn't know what his best 11 is or what the best system is to get the most out of his players. And as he clearly doesn't know, how can we expect the players to do their jobs without any sort of guidance. We are a total shambles at times, and yesterday at Rochdale I think we played 3 different systems during the match. It's like Brown's guessing. Yesterday's stats say it all really. We can't stop conceding goals and we don't look like scoring (1 shot on target). We DO have some decent players, but to me they look poor, because they look confused most of the time. Relegation isn't just a possibility at the moment, if we carry on like this it's a certainty.
 

Ayrshire Blue

The Custard Splat
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Messages
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Judge me when the window is shut. Then it was judge me when my injured players are fit. Those players are now fit and with no referee decisions to moan at yesterday his excuses are running out. 2016 has been an absolute shambles
 

davewebbsbrain

Webby⭐
Joined
Aug 17, 2005
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Eastwood
Maybe we should do what the Spanish supporters do when they want a manager out. All start waving a white hanky.

If we get beat by chesterfield this Saturday then expect venom toward the management.

This has been said every game since Scunthorpe and it never happens. If Brown was going to go he would have by now. I've totally lost interest now and that's all down to PB
 

gazza

First XI
Joined
Oct 24, 2003
Messages
955
The question is, at the moment, are there 4 worse teams than us? We have got to find some consistency soon or it will be too late. I don't go to the away games but I had felt recently that the home performances were improving. Lets hope we can start putting in some good performances or we can look forward to the 'delights' of League 2 again.
 
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