Hillsborough inquiry - verdict

[Pubey]

Due at 11am today.

Let's all do our best to keep things civil and on topic.

 

[LCBB72]

Justice for the 96 .

 

[Richard T]

Let's hope the truth can finally be told and those families that have lost there loved one's just going to a match to support there team (something most of us do that post on the zone) can have some closure after twenty seven long years. #JTF96

 

[Uncle Leo]

...and the sun shines now.

[video=youtube;ieVUJZJbeiM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieVUJZJbeiM&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

[AndyT]

Peter Jones is a sadly missed commentator.

Someone who could paint a picture using words that current commentators could only dream of doing.

His final summing up of Hillsborough, above, is extraordinarily good. Emotional, poignant and respectful.

For anyone who hasn't listened to it, it's worth taking a minute. It really is! :sad:

 

[Uncle Leo]

Peter Jones is a sadly missed commentator.

Someone who could paint a picture using words that current commentators could only dream of doing.

His final summing up of Hillsborough, above, is extraordinarily good. Emotional, poignant and respectful.

I'd never seen that before, but I do have many fond memories of listening to Peter Jones on the World Service while growing up overseas. One of the very, very, best. It takes a special talent to get something like that so right.

 

[AndyT]

It takes a special talent to get something like that so right

Absolutely spot on.

Somewhere on youtube is the commentary of the 1972 FA Cup Final.

It's so good, it's worth a listen.

Just simple and effective description of the events unfolding. No plugs for other matches and co-commentator dreary analysis.

Simple picture painting, making you feel as if you were there.

An art that only a chosen few are even closely capable of achieving.

The John Arlott of football.

 

[Pubey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-merseyside-36102998

https://twitter.com/JudithMoritz

 

[Pubey]

Unlawful killing? YES

 

[Pubey]

any behaviour by fans which caused or contributed? Jury: NO

 

[Richard T]

Question 6: Majority verdict the 96 were unlawfully killed : The truth after 27 years.........

 

[MK Shrimper]

About time. All those people who banged on about "drunken scousers" should hang their heads in shame.

 

[Richard T]

Question 7: NO behaviour by football fans caused or contributed to the disaster


http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/show...Truth-(-(Hillsborough)&highlight=hillsborough

 

[MK Shrimper]

Police action blamed for unlawful killings
Fans exonerated

 

[Pubey]

Question 7: NO behaviour by football fans caused or contributed to the disaster


http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/show...Truth-(-(Hillsborough)&highlight=hillsborough

Let's not drag that up. The jury have sat through nearly 2 year's of evidence and deliberation. If people still want to hold onto their beliefs and views about what happened, even after today's verdict, then so be it - there's no changing some peoples minds, even in the light of overwhelming evidence. It's not really the time of place for 'I told you so'.

 

[rigsby]

Would be interesting to know the evidence about the Ambulance service, not sure they could have done much with crush injuries.

 

[Richard T]

Would be interesting to know the evidence about the Ambulance service, not sure they could have done much with crush injuries.

Ambulances parked outside stadium and only one entered the pitch to deal with the victims.

 

[Uncle Leo]

About time. All those people who banged on about "drunken scousers" should hang their heads in shame.

Fairly certain some of them would have been drunk. It was a football crowd. But that's by the by - they weren't at fault and the **** thrown at those poor buggers over the years has been shocking.

Good, if distressing, account of the day here from Tony Evans. Formerly football editor of The Times, now writing for The Evening Standard and a Liverpool fan through and through.

https://storify.com/ykts_net/tony-evans-recalls-hillsborough

 

[Richard T]

Let's not drag that up. The jury have sat through nearly 2 year's of evidence and deliberation. If people still want to hold onto their beliefs and views about what happened, even after today's verdict, then so be it - there's no changing some peoples minds, even in the light of overwhelming evidence. It's not really the time of place for 'I told you so'.

Original thread on the same subject so just thought it was relevant personally.

 

[rigsby]

Ambulances parked outside stadium and only entered the pitch to deal with the victims.

But that was football then. The FA and the clubs did not have Ambulance crews in the ground. Ambulance staff did not have the skill level or equipment that we take for granted now days. So would have be impossible to deal with a crush injury.