How to defend the undefendable

[yogi bear up the cagire]

[h=5]Don't know whether anyone else heard this interview?

John Humphrys controls his anger and incredulity(?) whilst lambasting Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor in an interview on Radio Four this morning. I found it devastating![/h]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21653244

 

[MK Shrimper]

Typical that he who shouts the loudest must be a bit of a closet woofter themselves. I think the lady doth protest to much.

 

[Mad Cyril]

The Catholic church aren't having much luck at the moment, are they?

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

Turns out that pop eye the pope only stepped down to rid the church of all the corrupt scumbags running the church,respect for that but still loathing for all the peados he didnt shop.

 

[Mad Cyril]

There is a rumour the Pope resigned because a senior member of the clergy was about to be exposed as a Leyton Orient fan after being spotted in a Wetherspoons wearing a fake Lonsdale top.

 

[Bielzibubz]

That just about sums up everything that's wrong with the Roman Catholic Church's leaders, including the Pope.

 

[Pubey]

An apology to the church and the people of Scotland, but no apology to the gay community who he vociferously criticised...

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

I hadn't thought about it but this bit from the end of a BBC article just makes the whole celibacy argument even more ridiculous!

"It's not an intrinsic belief in the Catholic Church, it's a law. When Anglicans want to convert to Catholicism they can keep their wives, which shows it isn't really a religious belief for priests to be celibate."

So, in effect there are the majority priests who are 'supposedly' celibat but if you convert it doesn't matter! :unsure:

 

[pickledseal]

I hadn't thought about it but this bit from the end of a BBC article just makes the whole celibacy argument even more ridiculous!

"It's not an intrinsic belief in the Catholic Church, it's a law. When Anglicans want to convert to Catholicism they can keep their wives, which shows it isn't really a religious belief for priests to be celibate."

So, in effect there are the majority priests who are 'supposedly' celibat but if you convert it doesn't matter! :unsure:

Yup a contentious issue! Also is just 'current trend'.

Married priests does raise some issues, but I believe I will see them in my life time.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Yup a contentious issue! Also is just 'current trend'.

Married priests does raise some issues, but I believe I will see them in my life time.

Will we see any of the sick ****s in prison though?

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

Yup a contentious issue! Also is just 'current trend'.

Married priests does raise some issues, but I believe I will see them in my life time.

But will you see your god in your lifetime?

 

[pickledseal]

Will we see any of the sick ****s in prison though?

Any priest, bishop or even cardinal who has broken the law, should be punished by law.

Child abuse must be punished most severely - whether it happens in the church, in other institutions, or in the home. All of it is a complete abuse of power.

However it is important to remember that Cardinal Keith's crime is seemingly sexual harassment of adults rather than child abuse. Obviously still wrong. Plus obviously his treatment of the homosexual community is an issue too.

 

[pickledseal]

But will you see your god in your lifetime?

No, but I'm saving that encounter for the next. ;)

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

No, but I'm saving that encounter for the next. ;)

I really really hope he dose,nt you down a bit like justin bieber the other day

 

[BrettieAngell]

Will we see any of the sick ****s in prison though?

I'm not holding my breath.

 

[pickledseal]

I really really hope he dose,nt you down a bit like justin bieber the other day

See Pascal's Wager for my answer to that.

 

[Napster]

See Pascal's Wager for my answer to that.

I like the Atheist's wager:

You may live a good life without believing in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.

 

[pickledseal]

I like the Atheist's wager:

You may live a good life without believing in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.

But why would you want to go to heaven?

Heaven by definition is 'being with God'... I just can't understand why you would suddenly want to be with him for eternity?!

 

[Napster]

But why would you want to go to heaven?

Heaven by definition is 'being with God'... I just can't understand why you would suddenly want to be with him for eternity?!

Just because I don't necessarily believe in Him doesn't mean I don't want to hang out with Him.

 

[pickledseal]

Just because I don't necessarily believe in Him doesn't mean I don't want to hang out with Him.

Oh I see. Makes perfect sense... Sounds a bit more agnostic than atheistic to me ;)