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Agreed with the point Leoblue made as well, about the horrors of tube station fires. Trouble is, I very much doubt those doing this have any knowledge of that at all.

Could you tell me when the flames of the great tube station fire were blue ? as that goes against the basic rules of physics.
 
I was there at the same time and was equally unimpressed that my boy had to breathe in that ****. I was slightly confused who let it off though as the mob near the bottom of the escalators (my main suspects) were singing 'up the football league we go!' at the time (?).
 
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Why can't people just be happy with throwing a bog roll on the pitch. There free if you nick them out of the train toilets on the way to the game. You still get the pleasure of seeing someone's eyes watering when they can't use the bog because there's no paper
 
Would they be three button Falmers with pockets just above the knees? I hope you didn't do the Bay City Rollers thing with tartan additions?

No, not Falmers from Rayleigh Weir. I must of got them from Rosehills. And no, Lol, no self respecting English lad would wear tartan, especially with the England Scotland thing going on at the time. The Scots kept trying to give it to us, because of wars they lost centuries ago. Very unforgiving those Jocks.
 
There are a real bunch of bellends that go to games recently. I know that's the case for most clubs. I was embarrassed by the behaviour of some of the 'fans' yesterday. One lad didn't even make it into the ground because he was obviously being a knob. Another lad got chucked out at half time, then some gobby **** dressed in stone island was making out he was going to fight with the stewards. Then one of the stewards came back to explain to one of the blokes why his mate was thrown out (which in my opinion he doesn't need too). He explained it and had a fair point to which the guy replied "well you didn't need to man handle him". Well obviously the lads been asked to leave and hasn't so that's why he was escorted out.

It grips my **** why can't people just come to football, have a laugh with their mates, have a drink (not get so drunk that you get thrown out or start acting like Rocky) and have a bit of banter with the away fans.

As for anyone who brings a smoke bomb into our ground/or an away ground! Like OBL said it costs us £6000 in fines. To a club like us that's a substantial amount of money we don't need to lose for a ****** little bit of blue smoke that doesn't look good it looks *****! If you know someone who has one or is doing it then advise them not too! It's costing our club and I hope they start to really crack down and ban the ********s who bring them into Roots Hall.
 
There are a real bunch of bellends that go to games recently. I know that's the case for most clubs. I was embarrassed by the behaviour of some of the 'fans' yesterday. One lad didn't even make it into the ground because he was obviously being a knob. Another lad got chucked out at half time, then some gobby **** dressed in stone island was making out he was going to fight with the stewards. Then one of the stewards came back to explain to one of the blokes why his mate was thrown out (which in my opinion he doesn't need too). He explained it and had a fair point to which the guy replied "well you didn't need to man handle him". Well obviously the lads been asked to leave and hasn't so that's why he was escorted out.

It grips my **** why can't people just come to football, have a laugh with their mates, have a drink (not get so drunk that you get thrown out or start acting like Rocky) and have a bit of banter with the away fans.

As for anyone who brings a smoke bomb into our ground/or an away ground! Like OBL said it costs us £6000 in fines. To a club like us that's a substantial amount of money we don't need to lose for a ****** little bit of blue smoke that doesn't look good it looks *****! If you know someone who has one or is doing it then advise them not too! It's costing our club and I hope they start to really crack down and ban the ********s who bring them into Roots Hall.

dont sit on the fence, tell us how you really feel
 
No, not Falmers from Rayleigh Weir. I must of got them from Rosehills. And no, Lol, no self respecting English lad would wear tartan, especially with the England Scotland thing going on at the time. The Scots kept trying to give it to us, because of wars they lost centuries ago. Very unforgiving those Jocks.

Really? Rosehills for Ben Sherman shirts, Vic Shoes for tastled loafers, BUT Leo's for jeans!
 
Why not properly search all people entering that block? Isn't it club job to take responsibility, hence the fine. Once there a large queues forming and prepubescents misssing kick off maybe that might sink in.
 
Really? Rosehills for Ben Sherman shirts, Vic Shoes for tastled loafers, BUT Leo's for jeans!

Ah, Leo's Jeans, cheap as chips. Yes you're right, got my Ben Sherman and Brutus shirts, and high waster(Light Beige) and checked Oxford bags trousers from Rosehills, plus quality jeans when they sold them in the end. My tasseled Loafers, Brogues and platform shoes from Vic Shoes. And my Doc Martins from Vic Shoes and the Army&Navy store.
 
To answer the original question, I wonder if they were the chavs that the Police spoke to and moved just after the game began on Saturday.

They were up near the back of the stand, seated around 40-45.
 
Ah, Leo's Jeans, cheap as chips. Yes you're right, got my Ben Sherman and Brutus shirts, and high waster(Light Beige) and checked Oxford bags trousers from Rosehills, plus quality jeans when they sold them in the end. My tasseled Loafers, Brogues and platform shoes from Vic Shoes. And my Doc Martins from Vic Shoes and the Army&Navy store.

Alfs in Pitsea was the go to shop for those of us in Billericay
 
Why not properly search all people entering that block? Isn't it club job to take responsibility, hence the fine. Once there a large queues forming and prepubescents missing kick off maybe that might sink in.

They give them to kids to take in....they don't search kids.
 
How much is the fine for this sort of offence out of interest?

We're not talking fines here, this would normally carry a football banning order and, up to, three months imprisonment. See below the post I put up last August from the FSF which gives the answers spelled out by a barrister specializing in football related law.

This is the analysis, below, of the law by Alison Gurden, one of the Football Supporters Federation's go to barristers, it is a bit wordy but I think it clarifies the law nicely and lays out the consequences of breaking the law.

As you can see the maximum penalty is three months imprisonment, and it has been frequently used.

Without going into the pros and cons, that's been discussed at length, the fact remains that the possession and/or discharge of pyrotechnic devices in football grounds is specifically against the law as it currently stands and those guilty of contravening that law should expect that the powers that be will be looking to enforce such law. They can't say they haven't been warned.


FOOTBALL FANS, SMOKE BOMBS AND FLARES –FACT SHEET
What is the law governing smoke bombs and flares at football matches?
The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985
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It is on offence for a person to enter or attempt to enter a football ground while in possession of a flare, smoke bomb or firework. The sentence for these offences can be as much as three months in prison, and in many cases, fans who have no previous convictions are being given prison sentences for attempting to enter a football ground with a smoke bomb in their pocket as the courts take these offences very seriously.
There are two different offences (1) possession in the football ground; and (2) possession while attempting to enter. Although logically, attempting to enter a football ground seems to be less culpable than a fan who has managed to get the smoke bomb, flare or firework into the football ground, in real terms the courts do not consider one offence to be more serious than the other. Fans searched prior to entering the football ground and found to be in possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, have still been given custodial sentences.

What does 'attempting to enter' a football ground mean?
The courts have decided that 'attempting to enter' means much more than a person who is searched at the turnstiles. Fans have been given a prison sentence for carrying a smoke bomb in their pocket when exiting the train station closest to the football ground, or when walking through the car park on the way to the football ground. A court is likely to decide that a fan who is in possession of a ticket and is close to the ground is ‘attempting to enter’.

Is it more serious to carry a flare or a firework instead of a smoke bomb?
Although a firework or flare may be seen as more dangerousthan a smoke bombto most people, the courts do not seem to distinguish between them. Fans have been sentenced to three months in prison for carrying a smoke bomb, without having actually let it off.

What is a firework?
Even a sparkler falls within thedefinition of firework, as do bangers and anything else that has a Firework Standard logo on it.

What is a smoke bomb?
Anything which emits smoke or visible gas, even something which is home made.

Will a conviction for possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb result in a football banning order?
It is highly likely that the court will impose a football banning order on a fan who is convicted of possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb at a football match. The very nature of the offence means thatthe prosecution are likely to be able to persuade the court that the offence is football related, and that it is necessary to impose the order to prevent the offence happening again.

How long will the Football Banning Order last?
Most football banning orders imposed by a court after a conviction for a football related offence are for 3years. This does not only prevent the fan from attending football matches for the next 3years, but can prevent them from entering the town of their football team on matchdays, and require them to hand their passport to the Police when the England or Wales national team are playing overseas(as appropriate). A football banning order will show up on a Criminal Records Bureau checksand may prevent a fan from obtaining a visa to travel to countries such as the USA, or working in certain professions, such as working with children.
In addition, football clubs have issued life bans to fans who have been convicted of possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, meaning that even once the football banning order has expired, you may still be banned by your club.

What is the law on the carrying of flares, smoke bombs and fireworks for people aged under 18?
The Fireworks Regulations Act 2004
In addition to the above law, it is also an offence for a person under the age of 18 to be found carrying a firework in a public place. Smoke bombs have the Firework Standard label on them and will be classed as a firework. This doesn't just apply to people under 18 going to football matches but applies to all under 18 year olds when they are out in public places such as the park or town centre. The police can issue an £80 fixed penalty notice to anyone under the age of 18 found in possession of a firework in a public place.

Is it an offence for an adult to have a firework in their possession if they are not going to a match?
No, it is not illegal for a person over 18 years to possess a firework, flare or smoke bomb, but it is illegal for a person over 18 years to let off the firework, flare or smoke bomb in a public place. A person over the age of 18 cannot legally be arrested for being in possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb, other than when entering or attempting to enter a football match. For instance, the arrest of a football fan at a service station for possession of a smoke bomb in their car is an unlawful arrest unless the fan admits to the police officer that they intended to take the firework, flare or smoke bomb into the football ground later that day.

Be warned that even though fans may not think that having a smoke bomb or flare in their pocket is a serious offence, the police and football club take it very seriously and even a fan with no previous convictions faces a real risk of going to prison.
Spread the word to your friends and fellow fans...

Our thanks to Alison Gurden, Barrister, for providing the information above.
 
SUFC Police ‏@SUFCPolice 10h10 hours agoMore



1/2 I've heard that a blue smoke bomb was let off on Saturday. London Bridge station Jubliee line. Can anyone confirm and time? @SUFC_fans


SUFC Police ‏@SUFCPolice 9h9 hours agoMore



2/2Once I have details of smoke bomb I will liase with @BTPFootball regarding CCTV. If true could of caused a serious panic@SUFC_fans

Looks like this has gone beyond our local police to deal with as it now appears British Transport police are now involved. BT police will not take too kindly to smoke bombs being set off on the Underground as, following incidents such as the Kings Cross fire, passengers on the Underground tend to get spooked, understandably, by smoke billowing around Underground stations. The consequences of a crowd being panicked in the close confines of an Underground station don't bear thinking about, deaths or serious injuries could well be the result, hence BT police will be looking to make an example of anyone they can identify as responsible.
Maybe someone being banned and banged up for three months is what is required to make people listen, it certainly seems the gentle word in the shell-like is having little effect.

 
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