Joey Barton

[MK Shrimper]

Banned for 18 months by the FA due to betting....and that's probably the end of his playing career.

 

[Supernaut]

A good day for football :thumbsup:

 

[Firestorm]

Joey Barton Banned 18 months

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39720232

 

[EastStandBlue]

Fully deserved, given what the evidence proves.

 

[RobM]

I make that 9.6 hours ban per bet!

 

[MK Shrimper]

Oy Firestorm, I beat you by 7 mins. :smile:

 

[Blueronron]

Bet Sky or BT Sport have him as an expert pundit or heaven help with Jeff Sterling on saturday afternoon

 

[GBJ]

Fully deserved, given what the evidence proves.

Maybe I've missed it, but what does the evidence prove exactly?

The worst of it, from what I can ascertain, is that he bet on his own team to lose, when he wasn't involved in the squad, and therefore had no way if influencing the result. He can't really be accused of cheating. He can be accused of being a n0b head, but not cheating.

The length of the ban seems a bit much IMO. When you consider previous bans in football, for unrelated, yet worse offences, this seems incredibly harsh. Di Canio's shove on Paul Alcock & Cantona's assault on the fan are far worse examples of bringing the game into disrepute, yet are nowhere near the same punishment levels as Barton.

Also, I'm no fan of Barton by any means.

 

[RobM]

All footballers know it's against league rules to bet. Not once, twice, but in his case 1,260 times.

 

[Uncle Leo]

In terms of the punishment, it does feel a little bit harsh to me, but at the same time, I don't know what is in the FA rule book (if anything!) on this.

He's a ****ing idiot though. Just stay away, because perception matters. When I worked at Ladbrokes, having a bet in a Ladbrokes shop was a sackable offence. Not because, as a head office employee, I'd be able to influence things, or rig a bet, but just to keep things as clean and clear as possible. I was down in Plymouth for a Southend game once and when everyone went in to Ladbrokes to do a coupon, I stayed outside. The chances of me being identified as a head office employee hundreds of miles away were tiny, but the easiest thing to do was just say no.

 

[Mad Cyril]

In terms of the punishment, it does feel a little bit harsh to me, but at the same time, I don't know what is in the FA rule book (if anything!) on this.

He's a ****ing idiot though. Just stay away, because perception matters. When I worked at Ladbrokes, having a bet in a Ladbrokes shop was a sackable offence. Not because, as a head office employee, I'd be able to influence things, or rig a bet, but just to keep things as clean and clear as possible. I was down in Plymouth for a Southend game once and when everyone went in to Ladbrokes to do a coupon, I stayed outside. The chances of me being identified as a head office employee hundreds of miles away were tiny, but the easiest thing to do was just say no.

I know someone who works at head office for a gaming firm.

The second certain bets are made half the staff are on their phones having a punt...

 

[Uncle Leo]

I know someone who works at head office for a gaming firm.

The second certain bets are made half the staff are on their phones having a punt...

Oh with other firms for sure. But just not with your own employer.

That was the Ladbrokes rule at any rate. Others are different - Betfair being a prime example as they are essentially just the conduit, not the bookmaker.

 

[GBJ]

All footballers know it's against league rules to bet. Not once, twice, but in his case 1,260 times.

All footballers know it's against the law of the land to commit assault, yet it happens (albeit in rare cases), and they've wound up with lesser bans.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Maybe I've missed it, but what does the evidence prove exactly?

The worst of it, from what I can ascertain, is that he bet on his own team to lose, when he wasn't involved in the squad, and therefore had no way if influencing the result. He can't really be accused of cheating. He can be accused of being a n0b head, but not cheating.

The length of the ban seems a bit much IMO. When you consider previous bans in football, for unrelated, yet worse offences, this seems incredibly harsh. Di Canio's shove on Paul Alcock & Cantona's assault on the fan are far worse examples of bringing the game into disrepute, yet are nowhere near the same punishment levels as Barton.

Also, I'm no fan of Barton by any means.

On at least one occasion he was certainly playing. He bet on himself as first goalscorer.

He also bet on nine separate permutations of City losing to PSV on one occasion. Barton can claim that there was no way he was influencing the game, but like it or not, being on the training ground and around the playing squad he'll be privy to information/insight as to what's likely to happen during a game.

Yes, football has a shockingly counterintuitive relationship with gambling, but the rule for footballers is phenomenally simple. Professional footballer? You don't bet on the country's league football. Barton did. 1,206 times.

 

[mattytheshrimper]

I follow him on Twitter (for pure comedy value) and he didn't try to hide the fact that he used to bet nearly every day. He used to tweet about how close he was to winning bets etc and asking for tips for long periods of time. When I was reading them even I knew it was against the rules and couldn't believe he managed to get away with it for such a long time.

The ban is quite long but he has got previous and its one thing after another with him and he clearly respects no one including the rules. They are making him an example and personally if I'm honest if I had to pick anyone to get made an example of it would be him. Horrible person who has taken his career for granted and is simply a thug. He's not even that good haha.

 

[Grayson]

Compared to some other football bans, it looks harsh, but football needs to be hard on this betting corruption so I do agree with it.

Elsehwere, three cricketers spot-fixed their way to prison and had bans of over 5 years or more. So compared to that, Barton got off extremely lightly. Laying your centre forward to score first when you are playing the game can be construed as spot-fixing, even if he staked low enough to probably not influence his actions on the field. Incidentally, Barton took the set piece from which Man City took the lead in that game.

Not playing in matches is absolutely not an acceptable excuse too. Cricketers sharing team news - or even details about the pitch - are in severe breach of their anti-corruption code. Football should act the same way in my view.

On another note, my employer also does not permit betting in our shops or our website, and any account with the exchange has to be declared and is monitored, for the same reasons as outlined above with Ladbrokes.

 

[buffalowolf]

My son was a croupier at Crown Casino in Melbourne and they wasnt allowed to bet there either ,not even allowed to put a single coin in a slot machine,he had to go to Sydney on his annual leave with two mates to have a bet ,in Star casino .Rules are rules and are put there for a reason ,if Joey Barton broke them 1206 times then he got what he deserves ,

 

[buffalowolf]

He dealt pi gow and bacharat to the big millionaire gamblers that came from overseas, he once was offered a 10000 dollar tip and refused it,when asked why by the gambler ,he responded and said to " Sir, to accept your tip first i would have to call the pit boss over and resign my job , and not to be rude Sir, but 10000 dollars wouldnt even pay off my car and without a job how would i pay it off , thank you kindly for your offer but i hope you understand why i cannot accept it .

 

[mrsblue]

He dealt pi gow and bacharat to the big millionaire gamblers that came from overseas, he once was offered a 10000 dollar tip and refused it,when asked why by the gambler ,he responded and said to " Sir, to accept your tip first i would have to call the pit boss over and resign my job , and not to be rude Sir, but 10000 dollars wouldnt even pay off my car and without a job how would i pay it off , thank you kindly for your offer but i hope you understand why i cannot accept it .

Tips are allowed and gratefully recieved in every casino I've been to....high roller tables often the croup will be given large amounts as their tip.

The tips are then shared amongst all staff.

 

[buffalowolf]

not at the Crown casino in Melbourne , but i doubt very much you have been there , you find it hard to go a couple of miles to support the team you say you support ,reading the threads.:hilarious: