Ken Livingstone

[Pubey]

Oh dear.

and now apparently he's locked himself in the toilets with the media outside asking if he agrees with Hitler.

 

[callan]

Oh dear.

and now apparently he's locked himself in the toilets with the media outside asking if he agrees with Hitler.

Been suspended apparently.

 

[londonblue]

Been suspended apparently.

About time. He's an odious creature.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36160135

Here's what the BBC thought about it.

Btw saw The Daily Politics live and I'm still none the wiser as to why Ken has been suspended exactly.

Perhaps someone could explain to me? :unsure:

 

[Pubey]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36160135

Here's what the BBC thought about it.

Btw saw The Daily Politics live and I'm still none the wiser as to why Ken has been suspended exactly.

Perhaps someone could explain to me? :unsure:

He said Hitler supported Zionism - and then Hitler went on to kill 6 million jews.

His comments were stupid and probably offensive to many jews.

 

[londonblue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36160135

Here's what the BBC thought about it.

Btw saw The Daily Politics live and I'm still none the wiser as to why Ken has been suspended exactly.

Perhaps someone could explain to me? :unsure:

He's been suspended by your mate Corduroy. So far you haven't disagreed with anything that man has done or said, surely you're not going to start now? This must be a bit of a problem for you: the two men you seem to respect most within the Labour party on opposite sides. Interesting development.

 

[callan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36160135

Here's what the BBC thought about it.

Btw saw The Daily Politics live and I'm still none the wiser as to why Ken has been suspended exactly.

Perhaps someone could explain to me? :unsure:

I suspect this is Labours problem...an understanding of what is acceptable and what isn't.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

He said Hitler supported Zionism - and then Hitler went on to kill 6 million jews.

His comments were stupid and probably offensive to many jews.

That's not exactly what he said.He said that Hitler originally, (back in 1932), contemplated sending German Jews to Palestine.

 

[londonblue]

I suspect this is Labours problem...an understanding of what is acceptable and what isn't.

Indeed. The lines have been massively blurred.

 

[Pubey]

That's not exactly what he said.He said that Hitler originally, (back in 1932), contemplated sending German Jews to Palestine.

No, actually it is what he said:

In his interview with the BBC on Thursday morning, Mr Livingstone said: "Let's remember when Hitler won his election in 1932 his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism."

I look forward to an apology.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

He's been suspended by your mate Corduroy. So far you haven't disagreed with anything that man has done or said, surely you're not going to start now? This must be a bit of a problem for you: the two men you seem to respect most within the Labour party on opposite sides. Interesting development.

I suspect this is Labours problem...an understanding of what is acceptable and what isn't.

I suspect this will all prove to be a storm in a teacup.

There will clearly be an investigation into this but I'd be suprised if Ken and Bradford's MP,Naz Shah,aren't exonerated.

 

[MK Shrimper]

I've just googled it - The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. The agreement was designed to help facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. While it helped Jews emigrate, it forced them to temporarily give up possessions to Germany before departing. Those possessions could later be re-obtained by transferring them to Palestine as German export goods

So there is a sliver of truth in what Livingstone has said, however and I'm sure the "temporarily" bit would have been made permanent. It's still enforced repatriation however.

Time to retire and open a newt farm, just not in Tel Aviv.

 

[londonblue]

I suspect this will all prove to be a storm in a teacup.

There will clearly be an investigation into this but I'd be suprised if Ken and Bradford's MP aren't exonerated.

I seem to be missing something...oh, yes, now I know. It's a straight answer/response to the points made.

 

[Uncle Leo]

The reaction of a colleague to all of this is quite instructive.

He's Jewish and also, until the election of Corbyn last year, a lifelong Labour Party member. He's had his head in his hands most of the day at the mess this crowd are making.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

Vile little cretin who, along with Diane Abbott, I would happily see being fed to a pack of Lions (or should that be Zions).

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I suspect this will all prove to be a storm in a teacup.

There will clearly be an investigation into this but I'd be suprised if Ken and Bradford's MP,Naz Shah,aren't exonerated.

You may be right in your prediction, BUT would the decision to exonerate be right?

And the damage is already done in the headlines.

 

[EastStandBlue]

The reaction of a colleague to all of this is quite instructive.

He's Jewish and also, until the election of Corbyn last year, a lifelong Labour Party member. He's had his head in his hands most of the day at the mess this crowd are making.

I have to admit, I'm finding my membership increasingly untenable of late.

 

[londonblue]

The reaction of a colleague to all of this is quite instructive.

He's Jewish and also, until the election of Corbyn last year, a lifelong Labour Party member. He's had his head in his hands most of the day at the mess this crowd are making.

Most of my Jewish Labour friends would say the same. Most have actually left the party of late.

 

[Napster]

Vile little cretin who, along with Diane Abbott, I would happily see being fed to a pack of Lions (or should that be Zions).

Bit harsh on Tangled in Blue, just because he hasnt answered the question

 

[Napster]

I thought the right wing were the racists?